Tucker wants fascism

[Mortis]

I’ve never in my wildest dreams thought that so many Americans would be such whiney little bitches over such a little thing like wearing a mask during a world wide pandemic. What’s wrong with us?!?! Holy shit

I never in my wildest dreams thought, you folks would want to live in an authoritarian state, where YOUR government dictates to you how to live your life.

 

[BlindBoo]

Stupid memes make you look like you post stupid memes.

The federal government is not threatening Fla Schools funding if they don't issue mandates, but the Fla Governor is if they do.

 

[BlindBoo]

I never in my wildest dreams thought, you folks would want to live in an authoritarian state, where YOUR government dictates to you how to live your life.

Vaccines? I don't remember a time when there weren't vaccine mandates. I still have the scar to prove it.

 

[Slade3200]

Doesn't matter what you "feel" based on propaganda, I'm talking about quantifiable reality. Out in society at large, masks have no large scale testable, falsifiable affect. THIS IS NOW KNOWN!!!!

Fauci ‘not sure’ why Texas doesn’t have COVID uptick after nixing masks

It’s been some five weeks since Texas lifted its mask mandate, and there has yet to be an explosion of COVID-19 cases. It’s something Dr. Anthony Fauci can’t quite explain. &#8220…

nypost.com

I’m not stating what I feel based on propaganda. I’m literally looking at the entire world. At how other countries and medical professionals are handling the pandemic and I’m stating what I see. Not what I’m told by commentators on CNN but what actions are literally being taken. Are you going to tell me that other major countries aren’t recommending masks and the vaccine?

 

[Slade3200]

Pffft....Looke here, assshole, the hit piece in the OP can't even get out of the first paragraph withoug calling someone racist....It's a piece of propaganda shit, and you still have the self-awareness of a tree.....So get back to you bag of dicks.

That’s a lot of words but no counter argument to anything that was specifically said. You sound just like Charlie Browns teacher.

 

[TeeDub]

Why Tucker Carlson went to Hungary | CNN

Historian Nicole Hemmer writes that Tucker Carlson being in Hungary this week and his support for conservative authoritarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban is a strategy that we've seen play out in the 1960s and 1970s, when White, right-wing media personalities and publications supported racist...

www.cnn.com

Why else would Carlson be in Hungary praising an authoritarian prime minister? Because he wants a fascist system in the United States with Trump as it's dictator. Trump would fit that bill completely.

Any doubts, then do a little reading on fascism, especially as it deals with the two preeminent fascists who ever existed, Hitler and Mussolini.

He is a fascist because he believes in the "family unit" and keeping his country from being overrun by Muslims? You are a moron. The fascists are the liberal demoncraps.

 

[Slade3200]

I never in my wildest dreams thought, you folks would want to live in an authoritarian state, where YOUR government dictates to you how to live your life.

I don’t want to love in an authoritarian state. I want to get through this pandemic but too many self righteous asshole insist on pushing back against safety measure in order to preserve their “liberty” or so they think.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Isn't there already a conspiracy theory section set aside for the mentally ill?

 

[MisterBeale]

Stupid memes make you look like you post stupid memes.

The federal government is not threatening Fla Schools funding if they don't issue mandates, but the Fla Governor is if they do.

There is no scientifically valid reason for them. The only reason is control and fear, or to divide people.

Should folks that own businesses, or local schools districts be able to discriminate from others based on their sexual identity, religion, or race next. . . is that what you want?

 

[MisterBeale]

I don’t want to love in an authoritarian state. I want to get through this pandemic but too many self righteous asshole insist on pushing back against safety measure in order to preserve their “liberty” or so they think.

What "safety measures?"

Lord man, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

The statistics are in, the science is in. We know these so-called "safety measures" DO NOTHING, they have no statistical difference, than if folks do nothing. Why do you refuse to listen?

 

[Slade3200]

What "safety measures?"

Lord man, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

The statistics are in, the science is in. We know these so-called "safety measures" DO NOTHING, they have no statistical difference, than if folks do nothing. Why do you refuse to listen?

I’m listening. I just trust the CDC and other world health organizations, hospitals, and my personal doctors more than I trust you or some random “expert” you find on the internet that take an opposing MINORITY position

 

[Oddball]

What "safety measures?"

Lord man, I feel like I am talking to a brick wall.

The statistics are in, the science is in. We know these so-called "safety measures" DO NOTHING, they have no statistical difference, than if folks do nothing. Why do you refuse to listen?

Why do you refuse to listen?

Because finger wagging and virtue signalling beats actual science.

 

[Slade3200]

There is no scientifically valid reason for them. The only reason is control and fear, or to divide people.

Should folks that own businesses, or local schools districts be able to discriminate from others based on their sexual identity, religion, or race next. . . is that what you want?

You didn’t address his point which was threatening funding over mandates.

 

[MisterBeale]

I’m not stating what I feel based on propaganda. I’m literally looking at the entire world. At how other countries and medical professionals are handling the pandemic and I’m stating what I see. Not what I’m told by commentators on CNN but what actions are literally being taken. Are you going to tell me that other major countries aren’t recommending masks and the vaccine?

1. A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
2. A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
3. A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
4. A February 2021 review by the European CDC found no high-quality evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
5. A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
6. A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
7. An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
8. An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
9. A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
10. An August 2020 review by a German professor in virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)

Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.

An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.

swprs.org

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19-face-masks-community-first-update.pdf

Facemask against viral respiratory infections among Hajj pilgrims: A challenging cluster-randomized trial

Background In this large-scale cluster-randomized controlled trial (cRCT) we sought to assess the effectiveness of facemasks against viral respiratory infections. Methods and results Over three consecutive Hajj seasons (2013, 2014, 2015) pilgrims’ tents in Makkah were allocated to ‘facemask’...

journals.plos.org

Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures

Pandemic Influenza—Personal Protective Measures

wwwnc.cdc.gov

ACP Journals

But let's face it, you don't care about reality and facts, only what the media and governments of the world are doing, divorced from reality, right?

 

[Mortis]

I don’t want to love in an authoritarian state. I want to get through this pandemic but too many self righteous asshole insist on pushing back against safety measure in order to preserve their “liberty” or so they think.

It's all for Fear...Fear Porn. Just to get us all to comply. As long as they can keep that going....it's the ONLY thing that is (somehow) working for them. Everything else failed.

 

[MisterBeale]

You didn’t address his point which was threatening funding over mandates.

Oh. . . you mean like NY threatens to use its power to do into the small mom and pop restaurants if they don't comply with that stupid VAX identity proof to use a public place bullshit?

I oppose all this discrimination.

And if the governor wants to withhold funds to force folks not to discriminate. . . good on him. Stopping discrimination is not a mandate. . . stop being a hyperbolic tool.

I am sick of all you petty tyrants.

 

[Slade3200]

1. A May 2020 meta-study on pandemic influenza published by the US CDC found that face masks had no effect, neither as personal protective equipment nor as a source control. (Source)
2. A Danish randomized controlled trial with 6000 participants, published in the Annals of Internal Medicine in November 2020, found no statistically significant effect of high-quality medical face masks against SARS-CoV-2 infection in a community setting. (Source)
3. A large randomized controlled trial with close to 8000 participants, published in October 2020 in PLOS One, found that face masks “did not seem to be effective against laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infections nor against clinical respiratory infection.” (Source)
4. A February 2021 review by the European CDC found no high-quality evidence supporting the effectiveness of non-medical and medical face masks in the community. Furthermore, the European CDC advised against the use of FFP2/N95 masks by the general public. (Source)
5. A July 2020 review by the Oxford Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks against virus infection or transmission. (Source)
6. A November 2020 Cochrane review found that face masks did not reduce influenza-like illness (ILI) cases, neither in the general population nor in health care workers. (Source)
7. An April 2020 review by two US professors in respiratory and infectious disease from the University of Illinois concluded that face masks have no effect in everyday life, neither as self-protection nor to protect third parties (so-called source control). (Source)
8. An article in the New England Journal of Medicine from May 2020 came to the conclusion that face masks offer little to no protection in everyday life. (Source)
9. A 2015 study in the British Medical Journal BMJ Open found that cloth masks were penetrated by 97% of particles and may increase infection risk by retaining moisture or repeated use. (Source)
10. An August 2020 review by a German professor in virology, epidemiology and hygiene found that there is no evidence for the effectiveness of face masks and that the improper daily use of masks by the public may in fact lead to an increase in infections. (Source)

Are Face Masks Effective? The Evidence.

An overview of the current evidence regarding the effectiveness of face masks.

swprs.org

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/covid-19-face-masks-community-first-update.pdf

Facemask against viral respiratory infections among Hajj pilgrims: A challenging cluster-randomized trial

Background In this large-scale cluster-randomized controlled trial (cRCT) we sought to assess the effectiveness of facemasks against viral respiratory infections. Methods and results Over three consecutive Hajj seasons (2013, 2014, 2015) pilgrims’ tents in Makkah were allocated to ‘facemask’...

journals.plos.org

Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures

Pandemic Influenza—Personal Protective Measures

wwwnc.cdc.gov

ACP Journals

But let's face it, you don't care about reality and facts, only what the media and governments of the world are doing, divorced from reality, right?

I’ll take the first one and decide if I want to spend more of my time digging into the others later… the first study you posted analyzed data taken from flu pandemics all prior to COVID. If you remember at the beginning of COVID, the CDC did not recommend masks. This can explain that. But as more data was gathered and tests conducted the recommendations changed. And now all major medical institutions including the CDC and WHo recommend wearing masks, washing hands, distancing, and getting vaccinated. But you want to go back to normal because you found a few contrasting articles. Go figure.

 

[MisterBeale]

I’m listening. I just trust the CDC and other world health organizations, hospitals, and my personal doctors more than I trust you or some random “expert” you find on the internet that take an opposing MINORITY position

That's because you haven't done any research to understand HOW those bureaucrats found themselves seated ON those organizations.

I DO know how the system works. The folks calling out those in the system are far more trustworthy, b/c they have no economic or financial interest in what they are saying. . . the folks in those positions of power? Not so.


We could spend all day on the mistakes that these organizations have made, that have killed, maimed, and otherwise ruined the lives of hundreds of thousands. Maybe not purposely or due to malice, but because they only cared about the investments and the bottom line of the corporations and the system. . .


Only power and control, and the profitably of the system is important to the organizations, and the professional stake holder interest groups that keep in line the professionals that oversee your health.

If you do not take control of your own health? You will wind up very sick or dead, soon enough.

 

[Slade3200]

Oh. . . you mean like NY threatens to use its power to do into the small mom and pop restaurants if they don't comply with that stupid VAX identity proof to use a public place bullshit?

I oppose all this discrimination.

And if the governor wants to withhold funds to force folks not to discriminate. . . good on him. Stopping discrimination is not a mandate. . . stop being a hyperbolic tool.

I am sick of all you petty tyrants.

Ok, good on the state when they support your agenda but evil when not. Got it.

 

[MisterBeale]

I’ll take the first one and decide if I want to spend more of my time digging into the others later… the first study you posted analyzed data taken from flu pandemics all prior to COVID. If you remember at the beginning of COVID, the CDC did not recommend masks. This can explain that. But as more data was gathered and tests conducted the recommendations changed. And now all major medical institutions including the CDC and WHo recommend wearing masks, washing hands, distancing, and getting vaccinated. But you want to go back to normal because you found a few contrasting articles. Go figure.

IOW, you will only read something that supports your world view.

NOICE.