Now to Push Back. Catherine Austin Fitts Asks Everyone to Ditch Tyrannical Real ID and Convert Back to Regular State Drivers License

I shouldn't need any identification.

Conservatives crying about real id while demanding everyone need an id to vote is peak irony.
 
Former Bush Sr. administration Assistant Secretary of HUD and investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts is asking everyone to convert back to regular drivers license, where possible.

The best way to push back against Real ID is to not get one, or convert back to regular ID which can be done in all states but Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and Wyoming.

Another version of Real ID is called Enhanced ID, but it is basically the same thing. See Citizens’ Council for Health Freedom: How to Switch Back from a National IS to a State Driver’s License

This is important because it lowers the compliance rate, which shows the unpopularity of Real ID to politicians and sparks action.

Catherine Austin Fitts Wikipedia




"WHAT ARE THE DANGERS OF REAL ID?

The REAL ID is an unconstitutional NATIONAL ID system, that could exert control over you life beyond the airport. It violates constitutionally protected state and personal sovereignty. Violating 10th Amendment states’ rights and privacy rights, the federal Real ID Act could potentially enable surveillance, and limits on movement, access to services and transactions.

The government plans to digitize the REAL ID, put it on your phone, and have real-time remote access, allowing outside control and potentially government tracking. Your ID could be shut down at any time. In other words, the government could immediately end your ability to travel, drive, and participate in the economy. If enough citizens submit to government (TSA) coercion and get a REAL ID, the government may “flip the switch” and force everyone into REAL ID. A digitized NATIONAL ID can quickly and easily enable a global ID system, vaccine passports, and a social credit system.

A single bureaucrat in D.C. can expand required uses (e.g. buy guns, access medical care, vote, buy a car, get a credit card). Only 5 states forbid standard DLs/IDs: Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and Wyoming. Switching back to a standard driver’s license protects freedom by stopping
the unlawful NATIONAL ID system. Find more info and answers at
www.RefuseRealID.org.

HOW DO I SWITCH TO A STANDARD STATE DRIVER’S LICENSE OR ID?

1. CHECK FOR A STAR: The REAL ID is often called the “star card.” This may vary by state.

2. CHECK FOR A STATEMENT: If your DL or ID does not have a star, it is a standard DL or ID. Itwill likely also include a statement such as “Not for Federal Identification Purposes.”

3. FIVE STATES: The following five states do not allow you to have a standard state DL or ID:Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and Wyoming. Your only option is the National ID.

4. 45 STATES: If you’re in a state that allows you to have a standard state ID/DL, don't wait foryour renewal date. Make the switch ASAP. Increase the number of non-compliant DLs/IDs.

5. WEBSITE: Check the state DMV website for any useful information or instructions.

6. REQUEST: Go to the DMV (in person or online) and request a standard driver’s license.

7. BE READY: Prepare to give a reason if asked, such as “I don’t want a Real ID.”

8. VERIFY: Confirm and verify that the DMV is giving you a standard driver’s license. For,example, there should be a statement (see #2) and there should be no star on the card.

9. CONTACT INFO: Ask for a phone number to call if you receive a REAL ID instead.

10. PAY: Pay the fee, which is typically less than you paid for the REAL ID.

11. YOUR STORY: Share your story, your state, and if comfortable, your contact information withCCHF. Staff may want to contact you about your story."


Refuse Real ID

Former Bush Sr. administration Assistant Secretary of HUD and former investment banker Catherine Austin Fitts





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I could be wrong but it is my understanding that the federal government neither issues nor revokes a "Real ID" that is issued by each individual state according to their rules and regs.

The Read ID concept was passed by Congress in the GWB Administration to help protect American citizens against foreign entities intending us harm. The current rules/regulations were upgraded and established in the Obama Administration.

Those opposing a Real ID mistakingly believe it is akin to having federal papers in order to move around the country or whatever. Or they don't want people to have to identify themselves as citizens because that makes it easier for aliens to access more services and freebies and to cheat in elections.

Those okay with Real ID appreciate it making it easier to go through security at the airport and other secure venues, provides instant proof of citizenship in order to register to vote, provide certain ID for people to vote that help secure the integrity of our elections et al.
 
I have a right to travel in the US without the governments OK.
You certainly do. You do not have the right to board an aircraft without following security procedures which include showing your ID and you haven't been able to for over a two decades. The Real ID does nothing more than bringing the 50 states into compliance with one comprehensive ID standard. Glad I could clear that up for you.
 
You certainly do. You do not have the right to board an aircraft without following security procedures which include showing your ID and you haven't been able to for over a two decades. The Real ID does nothing more than bringing the 50 states into compliance with one comprehensive ID standard. Glad I could clear that up for you.


To me that should be up to the carrier, not the government.

Bondi said I can still fly.
 
Now? Seems a little too late for that. Many states--western states in particular--pushed back when monkey Bush pushed this thru 20 years ago. This push back was for an actual federal ID.

The fed gov leeches knew they couldn't push that one, so they simply used the state driver license as "real" ID. A back door, of sorts. Any state not complying with Daddy Orwell had their fed grant money withheld. The governors fell back in line pretty fast.
 
To me that should be up to the carrier, not the government.

Bondi said I can still fly.
She sure did. She can also say Not today. The point of the matter is that the legislation was bipartisan and voted in twenty years ago and NONE of our representatives had the balls to carry it out until now. It is no different than carrying your current license except for the fact that all states will be in compliance with one secure comprehensive set of rules. Kind of like state laws being in compliance with the COTUS.
 
She sure did. She can also say Not today. The point of the matter is that the legislation was bipartisan and voted in twenty years ago and NONE of our representatives had the balls to carry it out until now. It is no different than carrying your current license except for the fact that all states will be in compliance with one secure comprehensive set of rules. Kind of like state laws being in compliance with the COTUS.

IMO it's none of the federal governments business.
 
I could be wrong but it is my understanding that the federal government neither issues nor revokes a "Real ID" that is issued by each individual state according to their rules and regs.

The Read ID concept was passed by Congress in the GWB Administration to help protect American citizens against foreign entities intending us harm. The current rules/regulations were upgraded and established in the Obama Administration.

Those opposing a Real ID mistakingly believe it is akin to having federal papers in order to move around the country or whatever. Or they don't want people to have to identify themselves as citizens because that makes it easier for aliens to access more services and freebies and to cheat in elections.

Those okay with Real ID appreciate it making it easier to go through security at the airport and other secure venues, provides instant proof of citizenship in order to register to vote, provide certain ID for people to vote that help secure the integrity of our elections et al.


It is not an ID. It is an electronic chip which will link to your facial recognition data, digital currency account, medical data, and everything else about you so you can be tracked and monitored 24/7 and your ability to function, including buying or selling, shut off.

Think I am making this up? In his 2017 book The Fourth Industrial Revolution, Klaus Schwab, founder of the World Economic Forum wrote:

“Any package, pallet or container can now be equipped with a sensor, transmitter or radio frequency identification (RFID) tag that allows a company to track where it is as it moves through the supply chain—how it is performing, how it is being used, and so on….In the near future, similar monitoring systems will also be applied to the movement and tracking of people.”


That's what Trump's Stargate massive data storage center project is about. They need these to hold all your informaton.

Stargate database center

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"Since the passage of the Real ID Act in 2005, the FBI has been quietly building a massive biometrics database that will integrate with Trump’s national effort to build out a total surveillance network, of which Real ID is the crucial component.

The Real ID Act was passed in 2005, but is now being enforced for the first time by Trump.

In 2007 the Washington Post reported in “FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics”


“The FBI is embarking on a $1 billion effort to build the world’s largest computer database of peoples’ physical characteristics, a project that would give the government unprecedented abilities to identify individuals in the United States and abroad.

Digital images of faces, fingerprints and palm patterns are already flowing into FBI systems in a climate-controlled, secure basement here. Next month, the FBI intends to award a 10-year contract that would significantly expand the amount and kinds of biometric information it receives. And in the coming years, law enforcement authorities around the world will be able to rely on iris patterns, face-shape data, scars and perhaps even the unique ways people walk and talk, to solve crimes and identify criminals and terrorists. The FBI will also retain, upon request by employers, the fingerprints of employees who have undergone criminal background checks so the employers can be notified if employees have brushes with the law….

…the FBI is planning a “rap-back” service, under which employers could ask the FBI to keep employees’ fingerprints in the database, subject to state privacy laws, so that if that employees are ever arrested or charged with a crime, the employers would be notified.”
The Real ID will monitor your “social behavior” as the Chinese government does, contain your facial recognition data, which will allow high resolution street cameras to track you, and force you to comply with vaccination mandates if you want your ID to be valid. It will also determine whether you can buy or sell, and control what you can buy or sell.

Concerned about Constitutional rights, which include privacy under the Fourth Amendment, even the Department of Homeland Security’s own Privacy Committee came out in opposition to the REAL ID Act, two years after it was passed.

The Washington Post article left no question that the government has been planning to build a total surveillance society based on Real ID. A consultant for the FBI project, Lawrence A. Hornak of the West Virginia University Center for Identification Technology Research (CITeR), told the Post: “The long-term goal,…is ubiquitous use” of biometrics.

Real ID Has Nothing to Do with Safety

The argument that strict identification is a necessity for safety in airline travel is deeply flawed. The determinant of safety is what a passenger boards a plane with. Either a passenger is “naked,” in the security sense of the word, meaning thoroughly searched for arms or weapons, or he is not. It is ridiculous to presume that a passenger may take over an airliner with the pilots cabin door locked, as all now are. Armed air marshals are now on almost every flight.

As Rep. Thomas Massie said in April in response to Trump’s announcement that Real ID will be enforced,


“As long as the pilot’s door is locked and no one has weapons, why do you care that someone who flies has government permission?

Real ID provides no benefit, yet presents a serious risk to freedom.

If a person can’t be trusted to fly without weapons, why are they roaming free?”
Facial Recognition is Already Built in to the National Real ID Infrastructure

The national Real ID will eventually include high-resolution, facial recognition scans for each ID holder, so detailed that you can be identified on the street in real-time by street cameras at a distance. We know this because the software is already built into the national Real ID standards.

The Papers Please Identity Project writes:


“Digital Image Access” (DIA) component of [Real ID] software suite… is already designed to be compatible with automated facial recognition software. The logical next step, of course, would be to add some sort of “hash” or “template” representing each photo to the corresponding SPEXS pointer record, to make it easier to carry out national photo matching and search. DIA has been in operation since 2005, and 23 states are already making their license and ID photo databases nationally available through this network”
Trump Announces $500 Million “Stargate” Data Centers and Jump-Starts Real ID


On his first day in office in his second term, Trump’s first major act was the announcement of a gargantuan AI database project, Stargate, which will build massive data-centers around the country capable of storing the kind of massive amounts of information desired by the FBI.

The CEO of a main contractor in the project, OpenAI’s Sam Altman, is already marred by suspicion that he is behind the death of a young whistleblower, Suchir Balaji, whose sudden death in 2024 was ruled a “suicide” in which he had managed to shoot himself twice in the head.

Trump announcing Stargate massive database centers on Jan. 21, 2025

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The main identifier which will feed into the central national database is the Real ID. Even though the Trump DHS insists that the Real ID is not a central national database, it is.

Data analyst Amani Turnage writes:


“the RFID chip within [a Real ID/Enhanced Drivers Licence] has a unique ID number linked to a secure Department of Homeland Security (DHS) database…”
When there is a unique identifier database linked to all 50 states’ databases, as the Real ID does, plus further financial and medical records databases, and facial recognition scan databases, that is a central distributed database. That is Databases 101.

Real ID is Unconstitutional

The Real ID is an unconstitutional, rogue database that has no place in America. The US Supreme Court has called such national ID schemes “abhorrent,” and therefore unconstitutional.

In Aptheker v. Secretary of State, (1964) the U.S. Supreme Court said:


“Free movement by the citizen is of course as dangerous to a tyrant as free expression of ideas or the right of assembly and it is therefore controlled in most countries in the interests of security. … That is why the ticketing of people and the use of identification papers are routine matters under totalitarian regimes, yet abhorrent in the United States.”
Real ID is nothing like your Social Security number, because Social Security is strictly limited on what sorts of information it can gather on you. Not so Real ID, where the sky is the limit. Your Social Security number cannot be connected to a high-resolution, facial recognition scan, but Real ID will, and everything else about you down to what you bought for lunch one hour ago. It is indeed a monstrous, all-knowing beast.

Real ID Will Be Used to Enforce Vaccination Mandates

In The Highwire With Del Bigtree, Dr. Robert Scott Bell tells us that holders of Real ID will be forced to submit to the government’s “vaccination” demands in order for their Real ID to remain valid. In “Real ID laws are a back door to adult vaccine mandates across the U.S,” Dr. Eddy Betterman MD writes:


“Dr. Bell explains, under the Real ID Act, the Department of Homeland Security has the power to expand what rules and laws apply to Real ID, without approval or oversight from Congress.

“In other words, we can see an expansion to limiting your ability to travel if you, get this, are not fully vaccinated. Tie this into the Real ID, tie it into the Healthy People 2020 mandates where they’re looking to go in to adult mandates for vaccination,” Dr. Bell contends further.”
The language in the Real ID Act that Dr. Bell refers to is Section 205 of the Real ID Act, which:

“Gives the [DHS] Secretary all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title.”

In a very real sense, Real ID is a blank check to the government for unlimited infringements on basic Constitutional rights, such as freedom of movement, right to assemble, and due process, all in a fraudulent quest for “safety.” which is always the first excuse by governments for tyrannical actions.

China “social credit score” system based on national ID ranks and punishes citizens without due process

Will be Used to Reward or Punish “Social Behavior” Without Due Process

The World Economic Forum is a transnational group whose membership is an unholy mix of powerful bankers, industrialists, and powerful politicians. It has long sought ways to control the masses, and has made no secret of it.

Lest anyone doubt this, in his 2017 book The Fourth Industrial Revolution, Klaus Schwab, founder of the WEF wrote:

“Any package, pallet or container can now be equipped with a sensor, transmitter or radio frequency identification (RFID) tag that allows a company to track where it is as it moves through the supply chain—how it is performing, how it is being used, and so on….In the near future, similar monitoring systems will also be applied to the movement and tracking of people.”

When a powerful billionaires’ club like the WEF says it wants to do something, like “tag” people so they can be monitored and tracked, it is best to believe them.

As in China now, the WEF would like to tie one’s privilege’s in society, not seen as rights, to one’s social “behavior.”

A March 2024 WEF paper makes this very clear, and writes:


“Identity extends into the intricacies of an individual’s behaviours, actions and choices…”
And:

“an individual’s behaviours, paired with facial scanning, can be used as ongoing age estimation or “behavioural credentials”, effectively making verification an ongoing authentication process based on individual user conduct.”
An “ongoing authentication process based on individual user conduct” could mean that as long as a citizen “behaves,” their Real ID will remain valid. Good social behavior would include not posting “misinformation” on the Internet, such as “the government is a den of thieves.”

The WEF also seeks to control your transactions in order to support government goals and reward or punish behavior.

in October 2020, Bank of International Settlements director Agustin Carstens, one of the most powerful central bankers in the world and a WEF member, casually asserted that central bankers have the right to know how you spend every penny of your money. ... " MORE
... FBI Has Been Building Real ID Biometrics Database for 23 Years, Will Tell Employers If You Have Been Arrested in Real-Time

Minute 1:30 Prof. Richard Werner explains how central bankers have told him that people will get an identification chip implanted in their hand


In China only national ID-based facial recognition is allowed if you want to buy something

Catherine Austin Fitts Discusses Trumps Tyrannical Real ID, Will Be Used to Enforce Vaccine Mandates​

 
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It is not an ID. It is an electronic chip which will link to your facial recognition data, digital currency account, medical data, and everything else about you so you can be tracked and monitored 24/7 and your ability to function, including buying or selling, shut off.

Think I am making this up? In his 2017 book The Fourth Industrial Revolution, Klaus Schwab, founder of the World Economic Forum wrote:

“Any package, pallet or container can now be equipped with a sensor, transmitter or radio frequency identification (RFID) tag that allows a company to track where it is as it moves through the supply chain—how it is performing, how it is being used, and so on….In the near future, similar monitoring systems will also be applied to the movement and tracking of people.”


That's what Trump's Stargate massive data storage center project is about. They need these to hold all your informaton.

Stargate database center

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"Since the passage of the Real ID Act in 2005, the FBI has been quietly building a massive biometrics database that will integrate with Trump’s national effort to build out a total surveillance network, of which Real ID is the crucial component.

The Real ID Act was passed in 2005, but is now being enforced for the first time by Trump.

In 2007 the Washington Post reported in “FBI Prepares Vast Database Of Biometrics”


The Real ID will monitor your “social behavior” as the Chinese government does, contain your facial recognition data, which will allow high resolution street cameras to track you, and force you to comply with vaccination mandates if you want your ID to be valid. It will also determine whether you can buy or sell, and control what you can buy or sell.

Concerned about Constitutional rights, which include privacy under the Fourth Amendment, even the Department of Homeland Security’s own Privacy Committee came out in opposition to the REAL ID Act, two years after it was passed.

The Washington Post article left no question that the government has been planning to build a total surveillance society based on Real ID. A consultant for the FBI project, Lawrence A. Hornak of the West Virginia University Center for Identification Technology Research (CITeR), told the Post: “The long-term goal,…is ubiquitous use” of biometrics.

Real ID Has Nothing to Do with Safety

The argument that strict identification is a necessity for safety in airline travel is deeply flawed. The determinant of safety is what a passenger boards a plane with. Either a passenger is “naked,” in the security sense of the word, meaning thoroughly searched for arms or weapons, or he is not. It is ridiculous to presume that a passenger may take over an airliner with the pilots cabin door locked, as all now are. Armed air marshals are now on almost every flight.

As Rep. Thomas Massie said in April in response to Trump’s announcement that Real ID will be enforced,


Facial Recognition is Already Built in to the National Real ID Infrastructure

The national Real ID will eventually include high-resolution, facial recognition scans for each ID holder, so detailed that you can be identified on the street in real-time by street cameras at a distance. We know this because the software is already built into the national Real ID standards.

The Papers Please Identity Project writes:


Trump Announces $500 Million “Stargate” Data Centers and Jump-Starts Real ID


On his first day in office in his second term, Trump’s first major act was the announcement of a gargantuan AI database project, Stargate, which will build massive data-centers around the country capable of storing the kind of massive amounts of information desired by the FBI.

The CEO of a main contractor in the project, OpenAI’s Sam Altman, is already marred by suspicion that he is behind the death of a young whistleblower, Suchir Balaji, whose sudden death in 2024 was ruled a “suicide” in which he had managed to shoot himself twice in the head.

Trump announcing Stargate massive database centers on Jan. 21, 2025

image-1.png

The main identifier which will feed into the central national database is the Real ID. Even though the Trump DHS insists that the Real ID is not a central national database, it is.

Data analyst Amani Turnage writes:


When there is a unique identifier database linked to all 50 states’ databases, as the Real ID does, plus further financial and medical records databases, and facial recognition scan databases, that is a central distributed database. That is Databases 101.


Real ID is Unconstitutional

The Real ID is an unconstitutional, rogue database that has no place in America. The US Supreme Court has called such national ID schemes “abhorrent,” and therefore unconstitutional.

In Aptheker v. Secretary of State, (1964) the U.S. Supreme Court said:


Real ID is nothing like your Social Security number, because Social Security is strictly limited on what sorts of information it can gather on you. Not so Real ID, where the sky is the limit. Your Social Security number cannot be connected to a high-resolution, facial recognition scan, but Real ID will, and everything else about you down to what you bought for lunch one hour ago. It is indeed a monstrous, all-knowing beast.

Real ID Will Be Used to Enforce Vaccination Mandates

In The Highwire With Del Bigtree, Dr. Robert Scott Bell tells us that holders of Real ID will be forced to submit to the government’s “vaccination” demands in order for their Real ID to remain valid. In “Real ID laws are a back door to adult vaccine mandates across the U.S,” Dr. Eddy Betterman MD writes:


The language in the Real ID Act that Dr. Bell refers to is Section 205 of the Real ID Act, which:

“Gives the [DHS] Secretary all authority to issue regulations, set standards, and issue grants under this title.”

In a very real sense, Real ID is a blank check to the government for unlimited infringements on basic Constitutional rights, such as freedom of movement, right to assemble, and due process, all in a fraudulent quest for “safety.” which is always the first excuse by governments for tyrannical actions.

China “social credit score” system based on national ID ranks and punishes citizens without due process

Will be Used to Reward or Punish “Social Behavior” Without Due Process

The World Economic Forum is a transnational group whose membership is an unholy mix of powerful bankers, industrialists, and powerful politicians. It has long sought ways to control the masses, and has made no secret of it.

Lest anyone doubt this, in his 2017 book The Fourth Industrial Revolution, Klaus Schwab, founder of the WEF wrote:

“Any package, pallet or container can now be equipped with a sensor, transmitter or radio frequency identification (RFID) tag that allows a company to track where it is as it moves through the supply chain—how it is performing, how it is being used, and so on….In the near future, similar monitoring systems will also be applied to the movement and tracking of people.”

When a powerful billionaires’ club like the WEF says it wants to do something, like “tag” people so they can be monitored and tracked, it is best to believe them.

As in China now, the WEF would like to tie one’s privilege’s in society, not seen as rights, to one’s social “behavior.”

A March 2024 WEF paper makes this very clear, and writes:


And:


An “ongoing authentication process based on individual user conduct” could mean that as long as a citizen “behaves,” their Real ID will remain valid. Good social behavior would include not posting “misinformation” on the Internet, such as “the government is a den of thieves.”

The WEF also seeks to control your transactions in order to support government goals and reward or punish behavior.

in October 2020, Bank of International Settlements director Agustin Carstens, one of the most powerful central bankers in the world and a WEF member, casually asserted that central bankers have the right to know how you spend every penny of your money. ... " MORE
... FBI Has Been Building Real ID Biometrics Database for 23 Years, Will Tell Employers If You Have Been Arrested in Real-Time

Minute 1:30 Prof. Richard Werner explains how central bankers have told him that people will get an identification chip implanted in their hand


In China only national ID-based facial recognition is allowed if you want to buy something

Catherine Austin Fitts Discusses Trumps Tyrannical Real ID, Will Be Used to Enforce Vaccine Mandates​


Klaus Schwab and the WEF do not set the security provisions for the USA. It isn't "Trump's Tyrannical Real ID" but rather an act of Congress in 2005 that established it with upgrades in the Obama Administration.

I am pretty sure all this nonsense comes from TDS afflicted intellectually dishonest left wing deep state propaganda.
 
Nope, I haven't. But that's to travel outside the US.
Sure, sure and a drivers license is just for voting.
But hey you do whatever makes you sleep better at night. Be careful if you travel too far you might fall off the edge of the world.😂
 
Have you ever had a passport? That is the same thing.
You touched on the question I was about to ask: If Real ID is required to board a plane, can’t I just take my passport (even for domestic flights)?
 
You touched on the question I was about to ask: If Real ID is required to board a plane, can’t I just take my passport (even for domestic flights)?
I can leave my real ID and just take my passport and get on any plane. Domestic or international. I can rent cars get back into the U.S. only thing is I do not like the idea of carrying my passport just to get on any plane domestic flight.
Here is the thing that I find extremely hilarious with this whole thing. It is not like anyone that was not living under a rock was given just a few months to get one. Most states have done it when you got a drivers license. Some even when you renewed your old one.
I remember all the truck driver that were very upset when the federal government made it a requirement to have a commercial driver license. Many had numerous state licenses and when they would get a ticket they would hand the officer which ever license had the least amount of violations. The commercial license put a stop to that practice.
 
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