Trump's morality, from a Christian perspective

[Brain357]

What so because he doesn’t grab ***** publicly that means he’s innocent of it? Duh. He admitted to doing it. Is that your standard? I have to see with my own eyes that Trump does immoral behavior?

Yeah, you're twisting my words, firstly.

The standard is innocence before guilt. Not guilt before innocence.

Oh by the way. Even Hillary stuck by Bill despite his lecherous behavior.

Is she immoral too? Or is she a righteous woman for forgiving him for cheating on her?

She followed the Bible. It is clear on divorce...not good for trump.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I have no idea what LL and Brain find so funny about this.

Their arguments must be limited. So in turn they are limited to pressing the funny button.

Well. There is no button for "crazed hypocrisy". So we use what we have.

 

[LoneLaugher]

You gonna call in on Friday? I'd welcome the discussion.

 

[candycorn]

Trombies miss the point in Trump's adultery.

The problem isn't that he succumbed to desire. That's a very common occurrence among men ( and women ) the world over and for as long as history has been recorded.

The problem is that this ****** looks you in the eye and tells you that he has never been unfaithful and that all of those who have accused him of being a sexual harrasser are lying to you.

You believe him. Or, you are OK with a sinner who does not repent.

Which is it?

And he still lies about it to this day.

I bet the OP wishes he would have never brought it up.

I'll bring up whatever I damn well please.

At least I am willing to say Trump is immoral. You can't even bring yourself to say anything remotely close about members of your own party.

You sound like an idiot...please continue.

As for me, I have no party, If you want to bring up immoral democrats though...please do. No big deal to me.

Im glad you’re revealing how little you care about the morality of who you vote for myself. But if you are a Christian lm, perhaps you should not support someone who completely dismisses your values like your blob has done repeatedly

 

[Andylusion]

Um Trump is irredeemable because he chooses not to be.

What does that even mean, Billy?

It’s pretty straight forward. If he feels no guilt and has no desire to change his behavior, he definitely can’t be redeemed. I mean shit TK you’re a Christian right? Someone who murders someone else can still get into heaven if they condemn their prior behavior and accept Christ as their savior, right? This isn’t to say Trump murdered someone - I’m just giving an example of how sinning is actually forgiven. Trump feels no remorse for any of his sins suffice to say.

Actually, Franken was accused of sexual harrassment. But let's not quibble over your lack of concern over that fact.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

But he hasn't done worse than Franken. Franken literally sexually assaulted a women. He put his hand behind her head, and forced his tongue into her mouth.

Trump has not done that. Not even close.

franken took some pictures. Trump admitted to grabbing women by the *****. Sounds like sexual assault to me.

You know, as well as I do, that some women enjoy that. Don't lie, you know there are crazy women out there.

And given we're talking about Trump. I wouldn't doubt for a second, that some chicks intentionally made themselves available to him. In fact, Storm Daniels openly admitted to making herself available to Trump specifically, because she thought she could get on the apprentice.

Regardless, no one has filed charges against Trump.

So what you "think" he did or didn't do is irrelevant.

And quite frank-en... grabbing a woman's butt, is no where close to grabbing a woman's head, and forcing your tongue in her mouth.

Both are bad, but one is not comparable to the other.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Simply put, he is immoral if he doesn't repent to mankind for his sins. He doesn't need to.

He needs only to ask God for forgiveness. Not candycorn, not LoneLaugher, not Brain, not any liberal or conservative commenting on this thread.

So I am left with this...

Why are the people saying he needs to repent publicly before the eyes of men saying he needs only ask God for forgiveness...publicly?

 

[candycorn]

So do you all think that Ukrainian soldier agree that Trump acts morally.

How about the Kurds?

How about all the immigrant children that have been separated from their parents?

How much immorality will Trump do and still have Trumpbots declare that he's acting morally?

Perhaps your idea of morality is backwards!

Ah, but as long as he is repentant, it's okay. Of course, Trump has never actually been repentant. He does not apologize even after having his charity foundation closed down because it was a scam.

This fact is what makes the OP garbage. Sure, forgive those who ask forgiveness and seek to change their behavior. The blob hasn’t done that

See... you wouldn't forgive him even if he asked for it. So what point is there in asking forgiveness from people who won't forgive you?

Hm?

Wow...and you call yourself a Christian? ROTFLMAO.

Let me explain the topic to you.

If one believes in God and repents, you’re asking Him for forgiveness, not your fellow man.

So, does he have to publicly ask God for forgiveness to suit your standards, CC?

You have no idea how the Christian religion works.

Perhaps he should first stop denying he committed a sin. That would allow blob fluffers like yourself to stop being so moronic in your defense of his behavior.

 

[TemplarKormac]

As for me, I have no party, If you want to bring up immoral democrats though...please do. No big deal to me.

BS.

You have made your extreme liberal views plainly evident on this board. You have been a member of this board for 10 years. I can easily sift through your commentary and prove you wrong.

Don't try to fool anyone.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Perhaps he should first stop denying he committed a sin.

Are you the judge or is God the judge? You can't be both.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Um Trump is irredeemable because he chooses not to be.

What does that even mean, Billy?

It’s pretty straight forward. If he feels no guilt and has no desire to change his behavior, he definitely can’t be redeemed. I mean shit TK you’re a Christian right? Someone who murders someone else can still get into heaven if they condemn their prior behavior and accept Christ as their savior, right? This isn’t to say Trump murdered someone - I’m just giving an example of how sinning is actually forgiven. Trump feels no remorse for any of his sins suffice to say.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

But he hasn't done worse than Franken. Franken literally sexually assaulted a women. He put his hand behind her head, and forced his tongue into her mouth.

Trump has not done that. Not even close.

franken took some pictures. Trump admitted to grabbing women by the *****. Sounds like sexual assault to me.

You know, as well as I do, that some women enjoy that. Don't lie, you know there are crazy women out there.

And given we're talking about Trump. I wouldn't doubt for a second, that some chicks intentionally made themselves available to him. In fact, Storm Daniels openly admitted to making herself available to Trump specifically, because she thought she could get on the apprentice.

Regardless, no one has filed charges against Trump.

So what you "think" he did or didn't do is irrelevant.

And quite frank-en... grabbing a woman's butt, is no where close to grabbing a woman's head, and forcing your tongue in her mouth.

Both are bad, but one is not comparable to the other.

No one has filed charges against Trump?

Wow.

 

[Brain357]

Um Trump is irredeemable because he chooses not to be.

What does that even mean, Billy?

It’s pretty straight forward. If he feels no guilt and has no desire to change his behavior, he definitely can’t be redeemed. I mean shit TK you’re a Christian right? Someone who murders someone else can still get into heaven if they condemn their prior behavior and accept Christ as their savior, right? This isn’t to say Trump murdered someone - I’m just giving an example of how sinning is actually forgiven. Trump feels no remorse for any of his sins suffice to say.

Yes he took some pictures long ago and dems dumped him. He should become a repub.

You have nothing left but childish retorts.

You already lost. Trump has done way worse than franken. Franken got booted and trump got elected. Repubs have no morals.

But he hasn't done worse than Franken. Franken literally sexually assaulted a women. He put his hand behind her head, and forced his tongue into her mouth.

Trump has not done that. Not even close.

franken took some pictures. Trump admitted to grabbing women by the *****. Sounds like sexual assault to me.

You know, as well as I do, that some women enjoy that. Don't lie, you know there are crazy women out there.

And given we're talking about Trump. I wouldn't doubt for a second, that some chicks intentionally made themselves available to him. In fact, Storm Daniels openly admitted to making herself available to Trump specifically, because she thought she could get on the apprentice.

Regardless, no one has filed charges against Trump.

So what you "think" he did or didn't do is irrelevant.

And quite frank-en... grabbing a woman's butt, is no where close to grabbing a woman's head, and forcing your tongue in her mouth.

Both are bad, but one is not comparable to the other.

You are making that up about Franken. And dems had the decency to send him packing. He should become a repub they welcome that stuff.

 

[candycorn]

Simply put, he is immoral if he doesn't repent to mankind for his sins. He doesn't need to.

He needs only to ask God for forgiveness. Not candycorn, not LoneLaugher, not Brain, not any liberal or conservative commenting on this thread.

So I am left with this...

Why are the people saying he needs to repent publicly before the eyes of men saying he needs only ask God for forgiveness...publicly?

I didn’t say that.

I said that he needs to stop denying that he paid hush money to not just one but 2 porn stars.

 

[TemplarKormac]

But if you are a Christian lm, perhaps you should not support someone who completely dismisses your values like your blob has done repeatedly

What are you talking about?

You dismiss my values on a regular basis. Where do you have room to pontificate?

 

[Billy000]

What so because he doesn’t grab ***** publicly that means he’s innocent of it? Duh. He admitted to doing it. Is that your standard? I have to see with my own eyes that Trump does immoral behavior?

Yeah, you're twisting my words, firstly.

The standard is innocence before guilt. Not guilt before innocence.

Oh by the way. Even Hillary stuck by Bill despite his lecherous behavior.

Is she immoral too? Or is she a righteous woman for forgiving him for cheating on her?

She bypassed his immorality to continue being his wife.

Why are we not angry at her?

But...but....but Hillary!!!!

I don’t give a shit about Hillary. Sure you can call her immoral if you want. Why we are even talking about her is beyond me but this is the standard “whataboutism” for this board so I’m not surprised.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I didn’t say that.

Yes you did.

If one believes in God and repents, you’re asking Him for forgiveness, not your fellow man.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I don’t give a shit about Hillary.

No, of course you don't. That's the entire point, Billy.

Thank you for making my case.

 

[candycorn]

But if you are a Christian lm, perhaps you should not support someone who completely dismisses your values like your blob has done repeatedly

What are you talking about?

You dismiss my values on a regular basis. Where do you have room to pontificate?

???

Your Christianity is your business. Why you support a man who lives his life running counter to your values is something you have to answer and explain when questioned IRL. You’re having a very hard (albeit amusing) time explaining it in the Internet...it should be a real train wreck in real life.

 

[Seawytch]

So do you all think that Ukrainian soldier agree that Trump acts morally.

How about the Kurds?

How about all the immigrant children that have been separated from their parents?

How much immorality will Trump do and still have Trumpbots declare that he's acting morally?

Perhaps your idea of morality is backwards!

Ah, but as long as he is repentant, it's okay. Of course, Trump has never actually been repentant. He does not apologize even after having his charity foundation closed down because it was a scam.

This fact is what makes the OP garbage. Sure, forgive those who ask forgiveness and seek to change their behavior. The blob hasn’t done that

See... you wouldn't forgive him even if he asked for it. So what point is there in asking forgiveness from people who won't forgive you?

Hm?

It doesn’t matter. He doesn’t. He doesn’t believe there is reason to repent. Ask him.


Trump on God: 'I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness'

 

[candycorn]

I didn’t say that.

Yes you did.

If one believes in God and repents, you’re asking Him for forgiveness, not your fellow man.

the word “publicly” seems to be missing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Your Christianity is your business.

Then why is Trump's Christianity your business?

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