Trumps "immunity" defence is punctured by the first question

[berg80]

The judges appeared skeptical of this line of reasoning.

“You’re saying a president could sell pardons, could sell military secrets, could order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival” with impunity, said Judge Florence Pan, who was appointed by President Joe Biden.

“I think it’s paradoxical to say that [Trump’s] constitutional duty to ‘take care that the laws be faithfully executed’ allows him to violate criminal law,” said Judge Karen LeCraft Henderson, quoting from the Constitution. LeCraft Henderson was appointed by Republican President George H.W. Bush.

The outcome of the arguments will have major implications, not only for Trump’s legal battles — and his 2024 presidential bid — but the power of the presidency itself.

Trump hearing: Judges skeptical of ex-presidentâs absolute immunity claim

www.cnbc.com

 

[Tommy Tainant]

There is something wrong with you. This constant avoiding of issues by manufacturing girly stories.
Trump didn't order a SEAL team.Grow the hell up.

Mate, I feel guilty for showing up people of limited understanding like you. Makes me feel like a bully because you are defenceless.

Try to imagine that these powers you want for trump are given to his opponents. Is that ok with you ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

So why on Earth would you support Biden?

I am stating that biden should not be above the law.
Try and stop thinking about this in terms of trumps personal situation.

 

[forkup]

Trump team argues assassination of rivals is covered by presidential immunity

Former President Trump’s legal team suggested Tuesday that even a president directing SEAL Team Six to kill a political opponent would be an action barred from prosecution given a former executive&…

thehill.com

The people that are arguing that President Biden is abusing his office because a Special Counsel has indicted his political rival, is now arguing a President can KILL his political opponent and get away with it, providing he isn't impeached for the deed or resigns if impeachment looms. Feel free to justify it.

Judge Michelle Childs, a Biden appointee, noted that a president could resign rather than face impeachment, something that under the framework of Trump’s attorneys would allow them to dodge future prosecution.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Impeachment is a political process
A criminal prosecution is a judicial process

That’s exactly why I don’t understand what argument they’re making by suggesting impeachment and conviction is required for prosecution.

As we’ve seen. Partisans can avoid an impeachment conviction by simply voting no. Even when impeachment is so obviously warranted.

It’s a stupid argument.

 

[Crepitus]

So then we can stop worrying about tRump getting re elected.

 

[Crepitus]

After an election, when is the last day of the sitting president?

January 19th

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Blah blah blah, the Trump SCOTUS will bitch slap this Dem attack on democracy.

“Trump SCOTUS”?

You believe this is how it was meant to and should be?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Love watching Republicans move the Goal Posts when it comes to holding Trump accountable for Jan 6

1. While Mitch McConnell was Leader of the Senate, he was urged to impeach Trump before he left office. McConnell stated it was too late and that Democrats should do it after Trump was out of office.

2. When Democrats Impeached Trump after he was out of office, McConnell and fellow Republicans voted against it because he was no longer President. McConnell made it clear, Trump is still criminally liable for his actions.

3. Now that Trump is being criminally prosecuted, Republicans are claiming he can’t be prosecuted because he was not Impeached first.

Made the same dirty play with SCOTUS nominees.

 

[progressive hunter]

So then we can stop worrying about tRump getting re elected.

that woiuld require you to stop crying like a little bitch all day long,,

can you do that??

 

[Crepitus]

If this flies I think it's time for Joe Biden to say "bye bye" to tRump.

 

[Lakhota]

NICE TRY! JUDGES SCOFF AT TRUMP 'ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY' CLAIM​

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They are not allowed on the ballot for all kinds of reasons. Trump is not allowed because he will win.

Because insurrectionists are ineligible you meant.

 

[Crepitus]

that woiuld require you to stop crying like a little bitch all day long,,

can you do that??

 

[Lesh]

With Trump, that appears not to be so

Congress members specifically voted against impeachment because Trump was no longer in office
They considered it moot

At the time, Impeachment had two results. Remove Trump from office and prevent him from holding future office.

Making him eligible for criminal prosecution was never raised and Mitch McConnell specifically stated Trump could still be held responsible for his actions

In fact several GOP Senators voted to acquit BECAUSE they said he should be held criminally liable instead

 

[forkup]

If this flies I think it's time for Joe Biden to say "bye bye" to tRump.

It's kind of amazing if you think about it. That not everybody is reacting in horror immediately at the scope of what Trump arguments lead to.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

~~~~~~
It takes a two thirds vote for the Senate to concur on Impeachment of a president.
Do you believe if Biden is impeached for corruption by Congress that two-thirds of the Senate will concur?
Will the vote go strictly along political lines?

Derp…
That’s exactly why this argument fails.

 

[Crepitus]

It's kind of amazing if you think about it. That not everybody is reacting in horror immediately at the scope of what Trump arguments lead to.

You're absolutely correct. I pointed out this scenario months ago when it was first proposed. They should be careful what they do, because Joe is President NOW.

 

[progressive hunter]

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youre the one worried about him not me,,

 

[forkup]

You're absolutely correct. I pointed out this scenario months ago when it was first proposed. They should be careful what they do, because Joe is President NOW.

I understand the sentiment. I don't like the suggestion. I don't care how batshit Republicans went. You don't even jest about killing political rivals.