Trumps "immunity" defence is punctured by the first question

[progressive hunter]

The defense claims that a president would have to first be impeached and convicted by congress before they could be prosecuted for an "official act"

A judge just asked if a president could order seal team six to assassinate a political rival, a presidential order for the commander in chief being an official act.

The lawyer again responded that the president would have to be impeached and convicted first.

These people are insane.

Judge asks if a president can order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival

Donald Trump attended a federal appeals court hearing Tuesday as his lawyers argue the former president has immunity from prosecution related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Follow here for the latest live news updates.

www.cnn.com

 

[Moonglow]

Voting is not a civil right the Supreme Court killed it.

On June 25, 2013, the United States Supreme Court held that it is unconstitutional to use the coverage formula in Section 4(b) of the Voting Rights Act to determine which jurisdictions are subject to the preclearance requirement of Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act, Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct.Nov 17, 2023

The Shelby County Decision - Department of Justice​

 

[Moonglow]

Of course they can the president is the supreme commander, duh....as far as instigating an insurrection to delay a government function in the House of Congress that is not allowed..

 

[Lastamender]

many people are not allowed on the ballots why is Trump the loudest crybaby over it?

They are not allowed on the ballot for all kinds of reasons. Trump is not allowed because he will win.

 

[Lastamender]

Of course they can the president is the supreme commander, duh....as far as instigating an insurrection to delay a government function in the House of Congress that is not allowed..

"Peacefully and patriotically" instigates nothing.

 

[Moonglow]

They are not allowed on the ballot for all kinds of reasons. Trump is not allowed because he will win.

No, he broke the rules of ethics in his oath.. Which is political and not criminal.

 

[Moonglow]

"Peacefully and patriotically" instigates nothing.

This is.​

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/n...ot-speech-parler-talk-grew-darker/4297165001/​

Capitol riot: During Trump's pre-riot speech, Parler talk ...​

USA Today
https://www.usatoday.com › news › 2021/02/01 › civi...



Feb 1, 2021 — “Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass!" he shouted around 9:15 a.m..

 

[Lastamender]

"Kicking their ass and taking back your country" is....

Not what he said, and that sentence alone exonerates him. Trying to deny he said by editing it out is futile.

 

[Mac1958]

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN2AD0OG/

McConnell suggested that Trump could still face criminal prosecution for his acts.

"President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office as an ordinary citizen," McConnell said. "He didn't get away with anything. Yet."

 

[Moonglow]

Not what he said, and that sentence alone exonerates him. Trying to deny he said by editing it out is futile.

Doesn't matter what I say it's what he said...

 

[Arlette]

The defense claims that a president would have to first be impeached and convicted by congress before they could be prosecuted for an "official act"

A judge just asked if a president could order seal team six to assassinate a political rival, a presidential order for the commander in chief being an official act.

The lawyer again responded that the president would have to be impeached and convicted first.

These people are insane.

Judge asks if a president can order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival

Donald Trump attended a federal appeals court hearing Tuesday as his lawyers argue the former president has immunity from prosecution related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Follow here for the latest live news updates.

www.cnn.com

Judgie Watchie is having some fun with Trump's lawyer. That should tell you where this immunity thing is going - nowhere.

 

[Captain Caveman]

The defense claims that a president would have to first be impeached and convicted by congress before they could be prosecuted for an "official act"

A judge just asked if a president could order seal team six to assassinate a political rival, a presidential order for the commander in chief being an official act.

The lawyer again responded that the president would have to be impeached and convicted first.

These people are insane.

Judge asks if a president can order SEAL Team 6 to assassinate a political rival

Donald Trump attended a federal appeals court hearing Tuesday as his lawyers argue the former president has immunity from prosecution related to his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. Follow here for the latest live news updates.

www.cnn.com

After an election, when is the last day of the sitting president?

 

[Lastamender]

Doesn't matter what I say it's what he said...

I told you what he said.

 

[Independent thinker]

The subhuman orange gorilla in a suit was in court today, flanked by his lawyers And of course he couldn't pass up a chance to run his yap. You can always tell when that son of a bitch is lyng. His big mouth is open & he looking down at the floor trying to think of another filthy lie to puke to his idiot followers.

Today, when those judges are finished with his lawyers & that jerkoff, they'll all know how it feels to be laughed at & stomped on.

And yet when he says something which you think can be used against him, all of a sudden he's telling the truth.

 

[Hellokitty]

Republicans should use the democrat playbook and accuse the judge of using a dogwhistle calling for the assassination of TRUMP.

 

[Independent thinker]

Your statment is stupid in that you know better but make it anyway.

I don't know what you mean. It is democrats who want to round up and jail their enemies by weaponizing law enforcement, want to take people off ballots for being insurrectionists without even being found guilty of being an insurrectionists. And democrats even proudly claim that you don't have to be found guilty of anything to be taken off the ballot, accusations alone will do. The dems also take away first amendment rights, including a takeover of the media and social media and take away second amendment rights whenever they think they can. They also force people to wear masks and get vaccinated and required citizens to carry around papers proving so or they wouldn't be allowed in public places and would also be fired from their jobs.

 

[Libby von H]

Judge Florence Pan started off her questioning of Trump lawyer John Sauer by offering a novel scenario.

“Could a president who ordered SEAL Team Six to assassinate a political rival and was not impeached, could he be subjected to criminal prosecution?” Pan asked.

After some back and forth, Sauer said, “Qualified yes, if he’s impeached and convicted first.”

Trump doubles down after DC hearing: âMost people agree that weâre entitled to immunityâ â as it happened

If the judges rule in favor of Trump, it could lead to the dropping of the criminal charges brought by special counsel Jack Smith

www.theguardian.com

This is not how democracies run. It is how imperial dictators run things. The US fought against this but perhaps the founders had not considered a trump when forming the constitution.

There is something wrong with you. This constant avoiding of issues by manufacturing girly stories.
Trump didn't order a SEAL team.Grow the hell up.

 

[Doc7505]

By the logic used by P01135809's shyster, President Biden could order P01135809 to be killed and get away with it.

The argument is not valid. Impeachment is a political process to remove a president from office. Had just a few more Republican Senator's had the balls to in favor of impeachment instead being shit scared being primaried we would not be facing a man who hell bent on becoming a Fascist Dictator.

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It takes a two thirds vote for the Senate to concur on Impeachment of a president.
Do you believe if Biden is impeached for corruption by Congress that two-thirds of the Senate will concur?
Will the vote go strictly along political lines?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I don't know what you mean. It is democrats who want to round up and jail their enemies by weaponizing law enforcement, want to take people off ballots for being insurrectionists without even being found guilty of being an insurrectionists. And democrats even proudly claim that you don't have to be found guilty of anything to be taken off the ballot, accusations alone will do. The dems also take away first amendment rights, including a takeover of the media and social media and take away second amendment rights whenever they think they can. They also force people to wear masks and get vaccinated and required citizens to carry around papers proving so or they wouldn't be allowed in public places and would also be fired from their jobs.

We know what you critters are about.

"Blows that come
from nobodies and cowards do not hurt."
—Iliad, Book XI, lines 511-512 (Emily Wilson Translation)
Somehow it seems important to remember this principle.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

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It takes a two thirds vote for the Senate to concur on Impeachment of a president.
Do you believe if Biden is impeached for corruption by Congress that two-thirds of the Senate will concur?
Will the vote go strictly along political lines?

You will have some GOP voting nay with all of the Dems. Biden is not guilty of any such charges the GOP are thinking about.