Trump’s Historic Lead On 2020 Fundraising Is Starting To Rattle Democrats

[flack]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

I think you should step outside your bubble and see the real world. He will be re-elected in a near landslide.

I don't think so. He had to win MI, PA and WI. If he didn't win all of them, he would not have won. And he won't win MI again. Sorry. It's going to hurt you when he loses and Trump is even talking about not stepping down when he loses. You people are fucked up.

I think a lot of people are sorry they didn't show up to vote for Hillary in 2016 and they showed up in the midterms. They'll definitely show up in 2020.

We already know you guys will show up but Trump has lost voters due to a lot of them dying and I don't think Trump's behavior has won over any new supporters.

Donald Trump won the election in Utah with 45.5% of the vote, the lowest percentage for any Republican since George H. W. ... Hillary Clinton received 27.5% of the vote.

Hell, with Romney's help we may flip Utah

Nice facts. Too bad they are wrong. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the democrats pick. They are destroying themselves giving Trump all the talking points he needs.

Free this. Free that. Take the guns. After birth abortions.

 

[sealybobo]

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Your feeling arent going to get trump out of office. Economy great, trump reelected.

Economy was great when Clinton was President and that didn't help Gore. Obama's economy was good too that didn't help Hillary.

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

And the trade war with China, rising tensions in the Middle East and fears over the health of the global economy have unsettled markets recently, and led the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to lower interest rates.

The economy was GREAT for a year after Trump's tax breaks. That era is over. Now the numbers show Trump is doing no better than Obama did.

For 2019, the data shows a 3.1% growth for the first quarter, but this slowed to 2.1% in the second quarter (which ended in June).

This is significantly less than the 5.5% achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.

It's true the Dow reached record highs under his administration. Mr Trump's supporters argue that his corporation tax cuts along with his US-focused policies, his clampdown on bureaucracy and his promises of infrastructure investment have all helped.

However, in recent months, the index has been highly volatile, reflecting worries about the trade confrontation with China, and a gloomier outlook for the global economy.

Jobs and wages
So, what's happening with employment and wages?

unemployment levels had been decreasing throughout the Obama years, after peaking around the time of the 2009 recession.

President Trump also told the UN that "wages are rising, incomes are soaring."

That's not the whole story.

Average hourly earnings growth did continue throughout 2018 - a generally upward trend which began during President Obama's administration.

It reached 3.4% in February this year, but then began slowing and is now at 3.23%.

In real terms after inflation is taken into account, wages increased by 1.5% between August 2018 and August 2019, according to official data.

Household income has also been growing - but the rate of increase slowed in the last few years.

In 2018, median household income was $63,179, which official data says is not statistically different from the previous year.

Most middle class Americans/Voters aren't feeling like Trump has changed anything economically for them. Just a continuation from the Obama years. Obama handed Trump a great economy.

This was reported to be the first year it had barely moved after three years of growth.

So wages were going up every year under Obama and suddenly last year wages stopped growing. But you have enough facts from 2017 that you will claim victory even though in 2020 that will be 3 years ago.

Economy wasn't great when clinton left. Dot coms were crashing and we were in a recession.

Not on his watch.

Two months later after he left office. It was all clintons recession.

What did he do to cause a recession?

It has more to do with the NON confidence of the new POTUS who was an idiot and stole the 2000 election. That freaked the entire country out. No one had any confidence. No corporate confidence, consumer or investor confidence.

And that was just one recession. We got out of it after 8 ******* long months. Bush of course had to give huge tax breaks to the rich to get himself out. That's all Republicans know how to do.

Also lucky for Bush he had 2 wars because without that military spending his economy would have been even worse. Same thing with Trump. When you look at the numbers Trump has to rely on increased military spending or his economy is doing no better than Obama's. Maybe worse. That's government spending.

I don't know if I should take you seriously or not. Are you going to start defending Bush again like you did for 8 years in the 2000's? Because most Republicans now admit he sucked. He also led us into another recession right on his way out. That's two big long recessions bookmarking his presidency.

Do you at least admit he lied us into Iraq? That's the one thing Trump and I agree on.

 

[sealybobo]

It should scare these Moon Bats.

Trump won't use much of that money for himself but it will be channeled to Republicans running for office in districts that can be flipped.

This will be a landslide victory for Trump and his coattails will drag in a Republican House and Senate.

We warned the stupid Moon Bats in 2016 that Crooked Hillary was a turd but they didn't listen. We are warning them now that all those Moon Bat Presidential candidates clowns are turds but I don't think they are listening to us now.

That is actually a good thing for the country. The further the Moon Bats stick their head up their Liberal asses and nominate extreme far Left shitheads like we are seeing now the fewer offices they will win.

If Trump wasn't a criminal, he would have easily been re elected. But he has been an embarrassment. Only loyal Trumpbots don't see it.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

I think you should step outside your bubble and see the real world. He will be re-elected in a near landslide.

I don't think so. He had to win MI, PA and WI. If he didn't win all of them, he would not have won. And he won't win MI again. Sorry. It's going to hurt you when he loses and Trump is even talking about not stepping down when he loses. You people are fucked up.

I think a lot of people are sorry they didn't show up to vote for Hillary in 2016 and they showed up in the midterms. They'll definitely show up in 2020.

We already know you guys will show up but Trump has lost voters due to a lot of them dying and I don't think Trump's behavior has won over any new supporters.

Donald Trump won the election in Utah with 45.5% of the vote, the lowest percentage for any Republican since George H. W. ... Hillary Clinton received 27.5% of the vote.

Hell, with Romney's help we may flip Utah

Nice facts. Too bad they are wrong. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the democrats pick. They are destroying themselves giving Trump all the talking points he needs.

Free this. Free that. Take the guns. After birth abortions.

They are just trying to win over young voters. Trump made a lot of promises he couldn't keep too you know. Mexico's going to pay for the wall? Really?

 

[flack]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Your feeling arent going to get trump out of office. Economy great, trump reelected.

Economy was great when Clinton was President and that didn't help Gore. Obama's economy was good too that didn't help Hillary.

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

And the trade war with China, rising tensions in the Middle East and fears over the health of the global economy have unsettled markets recently, and led the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to lower interest rates.

The economy was GREAT for a year after Trump's tax breaks. That era is over. Now the numbers show Trump is doing no better than Obama did.

For 2019, the data shows a 3.1% growth for the first quarter, but this slowed to 2.1% in the second quarter (which ended in June).

This is significantly less than the 5.5% achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.

It's true the Dow reached record highs under his administration. Mr Trump's supporters argue that his corporation tax cuts along with his US-focused policies, his clampdown on bureaucracy and his promises of infrastructure investment have all helped.

However, in recent months, the index has been highly volatile, reflecting worries about the trade confrontation with China, and a gloomier outlook for the global economy.

Jobs and wages
So, what's happening with employment and wages?

unemployment levels had been decreasing throughout the Obama years, after peaking around the time of the 2009 recession.

President Trump also told the UN that "wages are rising, incomes are soaring."

That's not the whole story.

Average hourly earnings growth did continue throughout 2018 - a generally upward trend which began during President Obama's administration.

It reached 3.4% in February this year, but then began slowing and is now at 3.23%.

In real terms after inflation is taken into account, wages increased by 1.5% between August 2018 and August 2019, according to official data.

Household income has also been growing - but the rate of increase slowed in the last few years.

In 2018, median household income was $63,179, which official data says is not statistically different from the previous year.

Most middle class Americans/Voters aren't feeling like Trump has changed anything economically for them. Just a continuation from the Obama years. Obama handed Trump a great economy.

This was reported to be the first year it had barely moved after three years of growth.

So wages were going up every year under Obama and suddenly last year wages stopped growing. But you have enough facts from 2017 that you will claim victory even though in 2020 that will be 3 years ago.

Clinton had the dot.com bubble that luckily he got out of office just as the bubble popped. Obama's economy sucked. Remember 1% growth is the new normal. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Trump will wipe the floor with whichever libtard they nominate.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

I think you should step outside your bubble and see the real world. He will be re-elected in a near landslide.

I don't think so. He had to win MI, PA and WI. If he didn't win all of them, he would not have won. And he won't win MI again. Sorry. It's going to hurt you when he loses and Trump is even talking about not stepping down when he loses. You people are fucked up.

I think a lot of people are sorry they didn't show up to vote for Hillary in 2016 and they showed up in the midterms. They'll definitely show up in 2020.

We already know you guys will show up but Trump has lost voters due to a lot of them dying and I don't think Trump's behavior has won over any new supporters.

Donald Trump won the election in Utah with 45.5% of the vote, the lowest percentage for any Republican since George H. W. ... Hillary Clinton received 27.5% of the vote.

Hell, with Romney's help we may flip Utah

Nice facts. Too bad they are wrong. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the democrats pick. They are destroying themselves giving Trump all the talking points he needs.

Free this. Free that. Take the guns. After birth abortions.

They are just trying to win over young voters. Trump made a lot of promises he couldn't keep too you know. Mexico's going to pay for the wall? Really?

You run on open borders and going back to the Obama Error economy.

This Trumps record funds.
Thank you.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Yeah, that’s why you need to impeach him with just months to go before the election.

And terrified to make the impeachment public.

Yes we are the ones who are terrified

Trump rages against impeachment ‘lynching’ — and warns GOP will seek revenge against next Dem president

Democrats Slow Impeachment Timeline to Sharpen Their Public Case
House Democrats, once eyeing an impeachment vote by Thanksgiving, now conceded they may have to go slower as they plan public hearings to drive home their case.

WASHINGTON — House Democrats have resigned themselves to the likelihood that impeachment proceedings against President Trump will extend into the Christmas season, as they plan a series of public hearings intended to make the simplest and most devastating possible public case in favor of removing Mr. Trump.

Democratic leaders had hoped to move as soon as Thanksgiving to wrap up a narrow inquiry focused around Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, buoyed by polling data that shows that the public supports the investigation, even if voters are not yet sold on impeaching the president.

But after a complicated web of damaging revelations about the president has emerged from private depositions unfolding behind closed doors, Democratic leaders have now begun plotting a full-scale — and probably more time-consuming — effort to lay out their case in a set of high-profile public hearings on Capitol Hill.

Their goal is to convince the public — and if they can, more Republicans — that the president committed an impeachable offense when he demanded that Ukraine investigate his political rivals.

The president’s allies on Capitol Hill tried Monday to ramp up their defense of the president by forcing a vote in the House to censure Representative Adam B. Schiff, the California Democrat who is leading the impeachment inquiry as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. The vote, which failed in the Democratic-led chamber, was a display of Republican solidarity for Mr. Trump.

They have issued subpoenas to a growing cast of characters, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s private lawyer who is at the center of the Ukraine pressure campaign, and have demanded documents from Vice President Mike Pence. They have invited or compelled Trump administration officials past and present to appear at the Capitol before rolling television cameras, and cloistered them behind closed doors to extract a daily drip of testimony that backs up their case.

• The president’s allies on Capitol Hill tried to ramp up their defense by forcing a vote in the House to censure Representative Adam Schiff, who is leading the impeachment inquiry as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. The vote failed in the Democratic-led chamber.

To keep Republicans on the defensive in the interim, Speaker Nancy Pelosi held a House vote last week on Mr. Trump’s decision to pull back American troops from Syria — which was widely panned by lawmakers in both parties — and will force a vote this week on measures to combat foreign election interference.

On Monday, Ms. Pelosi offered the latest bit of what has become a daily, sometimes hourly, stream of information to shape the Democrats’ argument, circulating a fact sheet for reporters entitled “Truth Exposed: The Shakedown, the Pressure Campaign and the Cover-up” to sum up what has been learned about the Ukraine affair so far, along with a 90-second video laying out the case for impeaching Mr. Trump.

Ms. Pelosi’s aides have advised lawmakers to avoid talking at length about bit players or subplots in the drama they are unspooling, emphasizing the need to return again and again to Mr. Trump’s own words from a July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine. “Do Us a Favor,” a quote from a reconstructed transcript of that call, was the title of their video.

“If we get mired in esoteric process concerns, we will lose the ability to tell a powerful story to the American people about the abuse of power that is connected to the Trump-Ukraine scandal,” Mr. Jeffries said.

Some Republicans, already uneasy about the allegations at the heart of the Ukraine inquiry, have grown increasingly uncomfortable with Mr. Trump’s behavior, and unwilling to defend him on a range of topics, including the Syria decision and his plan — abruptly abandoned in the face of a bipartisan outcry — to hold the Group of 7 summit of world leaders at one of his resorts in Florida.

• • What the Accusation Is:Trump is accused of breaking the law by pressuring the president of Ukraine to look into former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a potential Democratic opponent in the 2020 election. A second person, this one with “firsthand knowledge” of Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, came forward and is now protected as a whistle-blower.
  • What Was Said: The White House released a reconstructed transcript of Mr. Trump’s call to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine.
  • Why Now: A whistle-blower complaint filed in August said that White House officials believed they had witnessed Mr. Trump abuse his power for political gain.
  • How Trump Responds: The president said the impeachment battle would be “a positive” for his re-election campaign. Mr. Trump has repeatedly referred to the whistle-blower as “crooked” and condemned the news media reporting on the complaint. At the beginning of October, Mr. Trump publicly called on China to examine Mr. Biden as well.

 

[sealybobo]

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

I think you should step outside your bubble and see the real world. He will be re-elected in a near landslide.

I don't think so. He had to win MI, PA and WI. If he didn't win all of them, he would not have won. And he won't win MI again. Sorry. It's going to hurt you when he loses and Trump is even talking about not stepping down when he loses. You people are fucked up.

I think a lot of people are sorry they didn't show up to vote for Hillary in 2016 and they showed up in the midterms. They'll definitely show up in 2020.

We already know you guys will show up but Trump has lost voters due to a lot of them dying and I don't think Trump's behavior has won over any new supporters.

Donald Trump won the election in Utah with 45.5% of the vote, the lowest percentage for any Republican since George H. W. ... Hillary Clinton received 27.5% of the vote.

Hell, with Romney's help we may flip Utah

Nice facts. Too bad they are wrong. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the democrats pick. They are destroying themselves giving Trump all the talking points he needs.

Free this. Free that. Take the guns. After birth abortions.

They are just trying to win over young voters. Trump made a lot of promises he couldn't keep too you know. Mexico's going to pay for the wall? Really?

You run on open borders and going back to the Obama Error economy.

This Trumps record funds.
Thank you.

Nobody is running on that. That's how you want to paint it.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I think you should step outside your bubble and see the real world. He will be re-elected in a near landslide.

I don't think so. He had to win MI, PA and WI. If he didn't win all of them, he would not have won. And he won't win MI again. Sorry. It's going to hurt you when he loses and Trump is even talking about not stepping down when he loses. You people are fucked up.

I think a lot of people are sorry they didn't show up to vote for Hillary in 2016 and they showed up in the midterms. They'll definitely show up in 2020.

We already know you guys will show up but Trump has lost voters due to a lot of them dying and I don't think Trump's behavior has won over any new supporters.

Donald Trump won the election in Utah with 45.5% of the vote, the lowest percentage for any Republican since George H. W. ... Hillary Clinton received 27.5% of the vote.

Hell, with Romney's help we may flip Utah

Nice facts. Too bad they are wrong. Trump will wipe the floor with whoever the democrats pick. They are destroying themselves giving Trump all the talking points he needs.

Free this. Free that. Take the guns. After birth abortions.

They are just trying to win over young voters. Trump made a lot of promises he couldn't keep too you know. Mexico's going to pay for the wall? Really?

You run on open borders and going back to the Obama Error economy.

This Trumps record funds.
Thank you.

Nobody is running on that. That's how you want to paint it.

All you have is lies. Of course every Leftard running has denounced the Trump economy and called for open borders.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I donated to Tulsi Gabbard just for the fun of it.

Sometimes people spend money to make themselves feel better.

And giving money to a politician you do not agree with makes you feel better?

I am happy for you then!

Who said I don't agree with her?

Would be odd to worship Trump the way you do and also agree with someone that disagrees with Trump on 90% of the issues.

but I guess anything is possible.

I have said multiple times that firstly I am not beholden to any party or candidate, secondly I believe our President should have military experience and thirdly that I like Tulsi Gabbard. I bash right wing nuts as much as I bash left wing nuts on this board. You’re just too ******* stupid to see that.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Yeah, that’s why you need to impeach him with just months to go before the election.

And terrified to make the impeachment public.

Yes we are the ones who are terrified

Trump rages against impeachment ‘lynching’ — and warns GOP will seek revenge against next Dem president

Democrats Slow Impeachment Timeline to Sharpen Their Public Case
House Democrats, once eyeing an impeachment vote by Thanksgiving, now conceded they may have to go slower as they plan public hearings to drive home their case.

WASHINGTON — House Democrats have resigned themselves to the likelihood that impeachment proceedings against President Trump will extend into the Christmas season, as they plan a series of public hearings intended to make the simplest and most devastating possible public case in favor of removing Mr. Trump.

Democratic leaders had hoped to move as soon as Thanksgiving to wrap up a narrow inquiry focused around Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, buoyed by polling data that shows that the public supports the investigation, even if voters are not yet sold on impeaching the president.

But after a complicated web of damaging revelations about the president has emerged from private depositions unfolding behind closed doors, Democratic leaders have now begun plotting a full-scale — and probably more time-consuming — effort to lay out their case in a set of high-profile public hearings on Capitol Hill.

Their goal is to convince the public — and if they can, more Republicans — that the president committed an impeachable offense when he demanded that Ukraine investigate his political rivals.

The president’s allies on Capitol Hill tried Monday to ramp up their defense of the president by forcing a vote in the House to censure Representative Adam B. Schiff, the California Democrat who is leading the impeachment inquiry as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. The vote, which failed in the Democratic-led chamber, was a display of Republican solidarity for Mr. Trump.

They have issued subpoenas to a growing cast of characters, including Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s private lawyer who is at the center of the Ukraine pressure campaign, and have demanded documents from Vice President Mike Pence. They have invited or compelled Trump administration officials past and present to appear at the Capitol before rolling television cameras, and cloistered them behind closed doors to extract a daily drip of testimony that backs up their case.

• The president’s allies on Capitol Hill tried to ramp up their defense by forcing a vote in the House to censure Representative Adam Schiff, who is leading the impeachment inquiry as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee. The vote failed in the Democratic-led chamber.

To keep Republicans on the defensive in the interim, Speaker Nancy Pelosi held a House vote last week on Mr. Trump’s decision to pull back American troops from Syria — which was widely panned by lawmakers in both parties — and will force a vote this week on measures to combat foreign election interference.

On Monday, Ms. Pelosi offered the latest bit of what has become a daily, sometimes hourly, stream of information to shape the Democrats’ argument, circulating a fact sheet for reporters entitled “Truth Exposed: The Shakedown, the Pressure Campaign and the Cover-up” to sum up what has been learned about the Ukraine affair so far, along with a 90-second video laying out the case for impeaching Mr. Trump.

Ms. Pelosi’s aides have advised lawmakers to avoid talking at length about bit players or subplots in the drama they are unspooling, emphasizing the need to return again and again to Mr. Trump’s own words from a July phone call with President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine. “Do Us a Favor,” a quote from a reconstructed transcript of that call, was the title of their video.

“If we get mired in esoteric process concerns, we will lose the ability to tell a powerful story to the American people about the abuse of power that is connected to the Trump-Ukraine scandal,” Mr. Jeffries said.

Some Republicans, already uneasy about the allegations at the heart of the Ukraine inquiry, have grown increasingly uncomfortable with Mr. Trump’s behavior, and unwilling to defend him on a range of topics, including the Syria decision and his plan — abruptly abandoned in the face of a bipartisan outcry — to hold the Group of 7 summit of world leaders at one of his resorts in Florida.

• • What the Accusation Is:Trump is accused of breaking the law by pressuring the president of Ukraine to look into former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr., a potential Democratic opponent in the 2020 election. A second person, this one with “firsthand knowledge” of Mr. Trump’s dealings with Ukraine, came forward and is now protected as a whistle-blower.
  • What Was Said: The White House released a reconstructed transcript of Mr. Trump’s call to President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine.
  • Why Now: A whistle-blower complaint filed in August said that White House officials believed they had witnessed Mr. Trump abuse his power for political gain.
  • How Trump Responds: The president said the impeachment battle would be “a positive” for his re-election campaign. Mr. Trump has repeatedly referred to the whistle-blower as “crooked” and condemned the news media reporting on the complaint. At the beginning of October, Mr. Trump publicly called on China to examine Mr. Biden as well.

You’re terrified because you know everyone is voting Trump.

 

[sealybobo]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Your feeling arent going to get trump out of office. Economy great, trump reelected.

Economy was great when Clinton was President and that didn't help Gore. Obama's economy was good too that didn't help Hillary.

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

And the trade war with China, rising tensions in the Middle East and fears over the health of the global economy have unsettled markets recently, and led the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to lower interest rates.

The economy was GREAT for a year after Trump's tax breaks. That era is over. Now the numbers show Trump is doing no better than Obama did.

For 2019, the data shows a 3.1% growth for the first quarter, but this slowed to 2.1% in the second quarter (which ended in June).

This is significantly less than the 5.5% achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.

It's true the Dow reached record highs under his administration. Mr Trump's supporters argue that his corporation tax cuts along with his US-focused policies, his clampdown on bureaucracy and his promises of infrastructure investment have all helped.

However, in recent months, the index has been highly volatile, reflecting worries about the trade confrontation with China, and a gloomier outlook for the global economy.

Jobs and wages
So, what's happening with employment and wages?

unemployment levels had been decreasing throughout the Obama years, after peaking around the time of the 2009 recession.

President Trump also told the UN that "wages are rising, incomes are soaring."

That's not the whole story.

Average hourly earnings growth did continue throughout 2018 - a generally upward trend which began during President Obama's administration.

It reached 3.4% in February this year, but then began slowing and is now at 3.23%.

In real terms after inflation is taken into account, wages increased by 1.5% between August 2018 and August 2019, according to official data.

Household income has also been growing - but the rate of increase slowed in the last few years.

In 2018, median household income was $63,179, which official data says is not statistically different from the previous year.

Most middle class Americans/Voters aren't feeling like Trump has changed anything economically for them. Just a continuation from the Obama years. Obama handed Trump a great economy.

This was reported to be the first year it had barely moved after three years of growth.

So wages were going up every year under Obama and suddenly last year wages stopped growing. But you have enough facts from 2017 that you will claim victory even though in 2020 that will be 3 years ago.

Clinton had the dot.com bubble that luckily he got out of office just as the bubble popped. Obama's economy sucked. Remember 1% growth is the new normal. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Trump will wipe the floor with whichever libtard they nominate.

Too bad Trump has been such an asshat. Many poor and middle class people don't give a ****. They/We want him out.

I was doing great in 2015 and 2016. Manufacturing was already back. Trump has done a good job on the economy if you are ok with the corporate tax breaks and rising debt. I'm not.

And Trump's economy is slowing down in large part because of him.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Your feeling arent going to get trump out of office. Economy great, trump reelected.

Economy was great when Clinton was President and that didn't help Gore. Obama's economy was good too that didn't help Hillary.

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

And the trade war with China, rising tensions in the Middle East and fears over the health of the global economy have unsettled markets recently, and led the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to lower interest rates.

The economy was GREAT for a year after Trump's tax breaks. That era is over. Now the numbers show Trump is doing no better than Obama did.

For 2019, the data shows a 3.1% growth for the first quarter, but this slowed to 2.1% in the second quarter (which ended in June).

This is significantly less than the 5.5% achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.

It's true the Dow reached record highs under his administration. Mr Trump's supporters argue that his corporation tax cuts along with his US-focused policies, his clampdown on bureaucracy and his promises of infrastructure investment have all helped.

However, in recent months, the index has been highly volatile, reflecting worries about the trade confrontation with China, and a gloomier outlook for the global economy.

Jobs and wages
So, what's happening with employment and wages?

unemployment levels had been decreasing throughout the Obama years, after peaking around the time of the 2009 recession.

President Trump also told the UN that "wages are rising, incomes are soaring."

That's not the whole story.

Average hourly earnings growth did continue throughout 2018 - a generally upward trend which began during President Obama's administration.

It reached 3.4% in February this year, but then began slowing and is now at 3.23%.

In real terms after inflation is taken into account, wages increased by 1.5% between August 2018 and August 2019, according to official data.

Household income has also been growing - but the rate of increase slowed in the last few years.

In 2018, median household income was $63,179, which official data says is not statistically different from the previous year.

Most middle class Americans/Voters aren't feeling like Trump has changed anything economically for them. Just a continuation from the Obama years. Obama handed Trump a great economy.

This was reported to be the first year it had barely moved after three years of growth.

So wages were going up every year under Obama and suddenly last year wages stopped growing. But you have enough facts from 2017 that you will claim victory even though in 2020 that will be 3 years ago.

Clinton had the dot.com bubble that luckily he got out of office just as the bubble popped. Obama's economy sucked. Remember 1% growth is the new normal. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Trump will wipe the floor with whichever libtard they nominate.

Too bad Trump has been such an asshat. Many poor and middle class people don't give a ****. They/We want him out.

I was doing great in 2015 and 2016. Manufacturing was already back. Trump has done a good job on the economy if you are ok with the corporate tax breaks and rising debt. I'm not.

And Trump's economy is slowing down in large part because of him.

So you would rather have Liz Warren? Seriously? I am OK voting against Trump if a better alternative emerges but neither Warren nor Sanders are it.

 

[flack]

Democrats have worked hard to get Trumps funds built to record levels. They should be congratulated.


Democrats are beginning to worry about President Trump’s 2020 war chest, which is larger than any other sitting president in history at this point in the campaign.

Some strategists believe the eventual Democratic nominee will not be able to compete against the Trump campaign’s and Republican National Committee’s joint fundraising, which combined have $158 million on hand, according to Politico.

Trump’s reelection effort has raised about twice as much as former President Barack Obama’s reelection campaign had at this point in the race.

“The resources [Trump] has will be put to work anywhere and everywhere that he feels like he can scare up electoral votes, and Democrats will never catch up. It’s just too much money,” Texas-based Democratic strategist Chris Lippincott said. “That’s real trouble … I’m not here to curse the dark, but it’s dark.”

The Trump campaign effort is currently outspending the lone Democratic PAC messaging against him by a 10-to-1 margin. Trump’s 2020 coalition has spent roughly $23 million so far on advertising.

Trump's historic lead on 2020 fundraising is starting to rattle Democrats

No amount of money is going to change the fact that more people are going to show up to vote this asshole out of office.

What possible advertisement can Trump run to change things? Or that will get people to forget what an embarrassment he has been for 3 years. It's cringeworthy.

Your feeling arent going to get trump out of office. Economy great, trump reelected.

Economy was great when Clinton was President and that didn't help Gore. Obama's economy was good too that didn't help Hillary.

Reality Check verdict: It's true the economy has been doing well - but there have been periods when it was even stronger.

And the trade war with China, rising tensions in the Middle East and fears over the health of the global economy have unsettled markets recently, and led the US central bank, the Federal Reserve, to lower interest rates.

The economy was GREAT for a year after Trump's tax breaks. That era is over. Now the numbers show Trump is doing no better than Obama did.

For 2019, the data shows a 3.1% growth for the first quarter, but this slowed to 2.1% in the second quarter (which ended in June).

This is significantly less than the 5.5% achieved in the second quarter of 2014 during the Obama presidency.

It's true the Dow reached record highs under his administration. Mr Trump's supporters argue that his corporation tax cuts along with his US-focused policies, his clampdown on bureaucracy and his promises of infrastructure investment have all helped.

However, in recent months, the index has been highly volatile, reflecting worries about the trade confrontation with China, and a gloomier outlook for the global economy.

Jobs and wages
So, what's happening with employment and wages?

unemployment levels had been decreasing throughout the Obama years, after peaking around the time of the 2009 recession.

President Trump also told the UN that "wages are rising, incomes are soaring."

That's not the whole story.

Average hourly earnings growth did continue throughout 2018 - a generally upward trend which began during President Obama's administration.

It reached 3.4% in February this year, but then began slowing and is now at 3.23%.

In real terms after inflation is taken into account, wages increased by 1.5% between August 2018 and August 2019, according to official data.

Household income has also been growing - but the rate of increase slowed in the last few years.

In 2018, median household income was $63,179, which official data says is not statistically different from the previous year.

Most middle class Americans/Voters aren't feeling like Trump has changed anything economically for them. Just a continuation from the Obama years. Obama handed Trump a great economy.

This was reported to be the first year it had barely moved after three years of growth.

So wages were going up every year under Obama and suddenly last year wages stopped growing. But you have enough facts from 2017 that you will claim victory even though in 2020 that will be 3 years ago.

Clinton had the dot.com bubble that luckily he got out of office just as the bubble popped. Obama's economy sucked. Remember 1% growth is the new normal. Manufacturing jobs are not coming back. Trump will wipe the floor with whichever libtard they nominate.

Too bad Trump has been such an asshat. Many poor and middle class people don't give a ****. They/We want him out.

I was doing great in 2015 and 2016. Manufacturing was already back. Trump has done a good job on the economy if you are ok with the corporate tax breaks and rising debt. I'm not.

And Trump's economy is slowing down in large part because of him.

No. Global economy is slowing. Boeing and GM having problems. Take out those and it is churning along nicely.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I have said multiple times that firstly I am not beholden to any party or candidate, secondly I believe our President should have military experience and thirdly that I like Tulsi Gabbard. I bash right wing nuts as much as I bash left wing nuts on this board. You’re just too ******* stupid to see that.

Dude, you give Trump credit for shit happening just based on him being the "front runner"...if that is not worship I do not know what is. (especially since there is no data at all to support your claims).

And I have never seen you bash a fellow Trump worshiper.

 

[Flash]

It should scare these Moon Bats.

Trump won't use much of that money for himself but it will be channeled to Republicans running for office in districts that can be flipped.

This will be a landslide victory for Trump and his coattails will drag in a Republican House and Senate.

We warned the stupid Moon Bats in 2016 that Crooked Hillary was a turd but they didn't listen. We are warning them now that all those Moon Bat Presidential candidates clowns are turds but I don't think they are listening to us now.

That is actually a good thing for the country. The further the Moon Bats stick their head up their Liberal asses and nominate extreme far Left shitheads like we are seeing now the fewer offices they will win.

If Trump wasn't a criminal, he would have easily been re elected. But he has been an embarrassment. Only loyal Trumpbots don't see it.

TDS, you haz it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

And one thing history has taught us, the person with the most money always wins.

While true that’s not the point. This is the guy 52% of the people want impeached and about 80% are supposed to hate. Yet this is happening.

Kinda makes you wonder.

Why does it make you wonder?

What percentage of the population do you think has contributed to his campaign?

Do you think more than 20% of the US population has donated to him?

Why not? 20% doesn’t sound far fetched. It only seems that way to the left because they keep telling us everyone hates him.

Why not 20%....well because historically less than 5% of the country has ever donated to a political campaign.

Even if it is 20%....that leaves 80% of the population that did not.

And that 80% aren’t giving to democrats. Which is the point I was making. A guy we’re told everyone hates and wants impeached is out raising the dems. So what are they going to claim now? It’s all Russia’s donations?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I have said multiple times that firstly I am not beholden to any party or candidate, secondly I believe our President should have military experience and thirdly that I like Tulsi Gabbard. I bash right wing nuts as much as I bash left wing nuts on this board. You’re just too ******* stupid to see that.

Dude, you give Trump credit for shit happening just based on him being the "front runner"...if that is not worship I do not know what is. (especially since there is no data at all to support your claims).

And I have never seen you bash a fellow Trump worshiper.

If it were Mark Cuban, I would have said the same thing. I work in the corporate sector and we were dying for business friendly candidate vs a career politician. You have no idea how corporate America works. None. Zip. Zero. Stats will lag. When the next recession hits it will come out of the blue for you but many where I work will have seen it coming for months. Those stats you point to is reactive thinking not proactive.

 

[flack]

Hillary has lost what little mind she had.

 

[sealybobo]

It should scare these Moon Bats.

Trump won't use much of that money for himself but it will be channeled to Republicans running for office in districts that can be flipped.

This will be a landslide victory for Trump and his coattails will drag in a Republican House and Senate.

We warned the stupid Moon Bats in 2016 that Crooked Hillary was a turd but they didn't listen. We are warning them now that all those Moon Bat Presidential candidates clowns are turds but I don't think they are listening to us now.

That is actually a good thing for the country. The further the Moon Bats stick their head up their Liberal asses and nominate extreme far Left shitheads like we are seeing now the fewer offices they will win.

If Trump wasn't a criminal, he would have easily been re elected. But he has been an embarrassment. Only loyal Trumpbots don't see it.

TDS, you haz it.

the GOP’s Tax Cuts won’t be Trump’s economic salvation either. Wasn’t the tax cut supposed to increase long-run growth by increasing business investment? Yes, it was but it isn’t delivering on that promise. Corporations received huge tax breaks, but they mostly used the money to pay higher dividends and buy back stocks, not for investment. And even the modest rise in business investment that did take place in 2018 seems to have been driven by higher oil prices, not tax cuts.

Trump’s low approval ratings are unlikely to increase significantly between now and 2020. Combine this lack of a strong economic upside over the next year with Trump’s extreme current unpopularity, and his chances for re-election if he even makes it to the end of his first term don’t look too good. Trump and his allies are in a deep hole right nowand the economy isn’t going to dig them out of it.