Trumps Bully Routine In The White House Backfires Bigly

[Independent thinker]

So detail those terms for us

I haven’t seen them anywhere

You're not understanding. Zelensky was not surprised from any last minute changes to the terms. He knew all the terms before coming Friday. If he didn't like any of the terms he should have just stayed home and not came and tell Trump to take a flying leap. He came knowing the terms. Trump made them all clear before Mr. Z came.

 

[Oddball]

You're not understanding. Zelensky was not surprised from any last minute changes to the terms. He knew all the terms before coming Friday. If he didn't like any of the terms he should have just stayed home and not came and tell Trump to take a flying leap. He came knowing the terms. Trump made them all clear before Mr. Z came.

He got conned by the Forever War Party, yet again, at the meeting before the meeting.

Disaster in the Oval Office: Dems lead Zelensky, Ukraine off a cliff with pressure to reject mineral deal

Before meeting Trump, Zelensky met with anti-Trump Democrats who advised him to reject the terms of the mineral deal the president was offering, according to Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn).

nypost.com

 

[rightwinger]

Explain, in all your infinite wisdom, how you get Putin to the table by fucking with him?

Please....

Easy
You point to the hundreds of thousands of deaths, loss of his military equipment and the impact on his economy and explain come to the table or we will support Ukraine indefinitely. You also threaten NATO membership

Trump gave away all his cards before even sitting down at the table

 

[kyzr]

The EU has given more $$$ to Ukraine than the US.
And they aren't loans, like your lying dear leader, claimed.

The US gave $174b in aid, the EU gave $145b with about $45b as LOANS (below)....google "US funding to Ukraine" for the US aid. So the US "gave" almost TWICE AS MUCH.

"The United States has allocated approximately $174 billion in aid to Ukraine since Russia's invasion in February 2022, which includes military, economic, and humanitarian assistance. This funding is aimed at supporting Ukraine's defense and addressing the humanitarian crisis caused by the war." per the GAO

EU Assistance to Ukraine (in U.S. Dollars)

Last updated April 9, 2025. To view a PDF version, please click here. The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $155 billion* in...

www.eeas.europa.eu

The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance, of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and 35% in the form of highly concessional loans.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Quid pro Joe

Quid pro Donny.

Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for ...​

politico.eu
https://www.politico.eu › article › trump-demands-500b...
Feb 11, 2025 — American support for Ukraine has a price tag: $500B worth of mineral riches, said US President Donald Trump.

 

[Lesh]

You're not understanding. Zelensky was not surprised from any last minute changes to the terms. He knew all the terms before coming Friday. If he didn't like any of the terms he should have just stayed home and not came and tell Trump to take a flying leap. He came knowing the terms. Trump made them all clear before Mr. Z came.

What terms?

You have no idea

 

[Delldude]

He agreed to Trumps extortion
However, before agreeing to a ceasefire, he wanted some assurance of security

All Trump wanted was his money

LoL......it was only an economic agreement...... to put US interests in the Ukraine to lessen the odds of Putin attacking. Part One of the security package and the dem's shot that in the ass.

 

[Delldude]

Easy
You point to the hundreds of thousands of deaths, loss of his military equipment and the impact on his economy and explain come to the table or we will support Ukraine indefinitely. You also threaten NATO membership

Trump gave away all his cards before even sitting down at the table

Putin could give a rats ass. He's prepared to fight indefinitely too.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

The US gave $174b in aid, the EU gave $145b with about $45b as LOANS (below)....google "US funding to Ukraine" for the US aid. So the US "gave" almost TWICE AS MUCH.

"The United States has allocated approximately $174 billion in aid to Ukraine since Russia's invasion in February 2022, which includes military, economic, and humanitarian assistance. This funding is aimed at supporting Ukraine's defense and addressing the humanitarian crisis caused by the war." per the GAO

EU Assistance to Ukraine (in U.S. Dollars)

Last updated April 9, 2025. To view a PDF version, please click here. The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $155 billion* in...

www.eeas.europa.eu

The European Union (EU) and our 27 Member States remain united and determined in our unprecedented support for Ukraine. Since the start of the war, the EU and our Member States have made available close to $145 billion* in financial, military, humanitarian, and refugee assistance, of which 65% have been provided as grants or in-kind support and 35% in the form of highly concessional loans.

From seized Russian assets.

• Furthermore, in October 2024, the EU and G7 partners agreed to collectively provide loans of $50 billion to support Ukraine's budgetary, military and reconstruction needs, financed by extraordinary revenues from immobilized Russian sovereign assets. The EU will contribute $20 billion. The first $3.2 billion was disbursed in January 2025. This will bring our commitments to date to close to $198 billion.
  
  
• In July 2024, the EU made available the first $1.6 billion generated from immobilized Russian assets, $1.5 billion for military support through the EPF $109 million for energy support through the Ukraine Facility.

 

[Meathead]

LoL......it was your democrats who just killed American, Ukrainian jobs and investment opportunities.

You mean besides Hunter. I understand he did quite well.

 

[kyzr]

From seized Russian assets.

• Furthermore, in October 2024, the EU and G7 partners agreed to collectively provide loans of $50 billion to support Ukraine's budgetary, military and reconstruction needs, financed by extraordinary revenues from immobilized Russian sovereign assets. The EU will contribute $20 billion. The first $3.2 billion was disbursed in January 2025. This will bring our commitments to date to close to $198 billion.
  
  
• In July 2024, the EU made available the first $1.6 billion generated from immobilized Russian assets, $1.5 billion for military support through the EPF $109 million for energy support through the Ukraine Facility.

So those funds are NOT from EU treasuries, they are from seized Russian assets.
That makes the military aid difference between the US and the EU even worse.

 

[Mashmont]

I don’t think this was the Putin-Pac result that J.D. and Trump were aiming for.
— An even stronger, and committed European Alliance, united in the cause of Ukraine’s Defense.

Well when you act like a Transactional Thug, you had better “have the cards” — otherwise the neighborhood folks just might take matters into their own hands …

And deal you right out of the game the negotiating table.

Trump's Bully Routine in the White House Backfires Biggly

— — I don’t think this was the Putin-Pac result that J.D. and Trump were aiming for. — An even stronger, and committed European Alliance, united in the cause of Ukraine’s Defense. Well when you act like a Transactional Thug, you had better “have the...

www.dailykos.com

Looks like he's going to need some more cards.

Zelensky tried Trump and lost. That's the story.

 

[Delldude]

Quid pro Donny.

Our money already paid to the thieves in the Ukraine.

Try again.

 

[Delldude]

Bwaaa haaaa haaaa.

Washington — Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said Sunday that an economic deal with Ukraine is not currently on the table after the contentious Oval Office meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

"All President Zelensky had to do was come in and sign this economic agreement, and again show no daylight — no daylight — between Ukrainian people and the American people, and he chose to blow that up," Bessent said on "Face the Nation with Margaret Brennan."

 

[Edgetho]

Trumps Bully Routine In The White House Backfires Bigly​

How many times did Sponge Brains Shits Pants talk to Putin?

How many Peace Settlements did scum of the Earth dims put on the table?

dimocraps are lying scum. It's all they got. It's all they ever have.

 

[Edgetho]

Quid pro Donny.

Trump demands $500B in rare earths from Ukraine for ...​

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politico.eu
https://www.politico.eu › article › trump-demands-500b...
Feb 11, 2025 — American support for Ukraine has a price tag: $500B worth of mineral riches, said US President Donald Trump.

Yeah, that.

Zelenskyy was accustomed to getting off cheap with Biden, et al.

All he had to do was kick back a few million here and there. Done and Done!!

But OMB wants the American People reimbursed for our sacrifices.

Imagine that!

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Yeah, that.

Zelenskyy was accustomed to getting off cheap with Biden, et al.

All he had to do was kick back a few million here and there. Done and Done!!

But OMB wants the American People reimbursed for our sacrifices.

Trump's OMB.
Why doesn't Trump demand reimbursement from Israel?

Imagine that!

Quid Pro Donny.

Just like his daddy....................

 

[Delldude]

Why doesn't Trump demand reimbursement from Israel?

Israel pays for it's weaponry.

 

[kyzr]

Israel pays for it's weaponry.

With USAID money

 

[schmidlap]

Explain, in all your infinite wisdom, how you get Putin to the table by fucking with him?

Please....

Your fucking with Putin is your fantasy.

The alliance of democratic nations that had endured and thrived since WWII and allowed the U.S. to achieve unprecedented power and prosperity was not accomplished by lying about Russia invading Ukraine.

Russia' economy is smaller that Canada alone, and dwarfed by the E.U.'s, and Trump's bending over for Putin and rewarding him for his savage invasion and occupation by Russian and North Korean forces is not in the interests of the U.S.