Trump’s Big Tariff Talk Crumbles. He’s Backing Down Big Time!

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It means there's a high probability

No, no you can't there is no comparison between the honesty of Republicans versus Democrats in the house, senate or biden for that matter. The trumped-up charges for Trump were all a lie, and thank God it didn't work for you. There's tenfold more proof in Congress final report on Biden. You lost the last election for a good reason. The American public spoke on your honesty.

Biden did not run in the last election.

 

[jc456]

Biden did not run in the last election.

why was he on the debate stage in June of 2024 campaigning against Trump then?

 

[Mac-7]

Correct about Joe raising tariffs on China. I have no issue with being tough on China. But Trump did blanket tariffs on the rest of the world and insulted our closest allies. Boom there goes a ton of leverage that we could have used against China.

Joe brought computer chip production back here. That’s is smart strategy. Trump seems to want shirt and shoe factories to come back. Can’t wait to pay $300 for my next pair of shoes… you excited about that?

Good for biden for at least what he did do

But he was still getting snookered by china transshipping through 3rd countries and avoiding the tariffs

Trump recognized that and is moving to close that loophole

One way was to signal that he is willing to raise tariffs on everyone if necessary

Now he is negotiating with our “friends”

I dont expect he will get everything we want

But more than we were getting before



YryTry

 

[jc456]

Good for biden for at least what he did do

But he was still getting snookered by china transshipping through 3rd countries and avoiding the tariffs

Trump recognized that and is moving to close that loophole

One way was to signal that he is willing to raise tariffs on everyone if necessary

Now he is negotiating with our “friends”

I dont expect he will get everything we want

But more than we were getting before



YryTry

When Trump found that out, is when he put the blanket Tariff orders out.

 

[Slade3200]

Correct, you get a pardon for violating laws agains the United States. That's what I've been saying. That's what the US Constitution says.

Trump's circle? It was Xiden that gave out blanket pardons to his family, members of his admin, and close members of his party in Congress....not trump. Xiden knowingly allowed it, then issued the blanket pardons right before leaving office. That's very gangster of him.

I'm not making excuses for Bidens actions when it came to Pardons. Im just saying that they don't prove the conspiracy theories to be true. He did them to save his family from investigations and harassment. They could be innocent or they could be guilty but there has been years to show proof and prove the guilt. It didn't happen

 

[Slade3200]

I've no love for Biden nor the progs, and imo although inevitably after covid inflation occurred, but Biden's support for expanding child tax credits and the dems final fiscal stimulus made inflation worse by giving non-workers more money to buy shit with at the same time American companies couldn't find workers.

However, real gnp (growth with inflation subtracted) rose consistently with Biden. And it just fell for the first time since .... covid.

Real Gross Domestic Product

View the annual rate of economic output, or the inflation-adjusted value of all new goods and services produced by labor and property located in the U.S.

fred.stlouisfed.org

The stimulus was given by both Trump and Biden and that stimulus in addition to supply chain issues from Covid shutdowns were all factors in inflation. No US President could have prevented inflation. The real argument is on the margins of how well the inflation was managed.

I agree that some of Biden's policies were not helpful. But some were, it would have to be debated issue by issue. If you compare the USA to the rest of the world we were one of the top performers coming out of COVID

 

[Slade3200]

Good for biden for at least what he did do

But he was still getting snookered by china transshipping through 3rd countries and avoiding the tariffs

Trump recognized that and is moving to close that loophole

One way was to signal that he is willing to raise tariffs on everyone if necessary

Now he is negotiating with our “friends”

I dont expect he will get everything we want

But more than we were getting before



YryTry

Looks like your finding a better shade of lipstick to put on the pig... fact remains... you're still kissing a pig

 

[Blisterfinger]

Biden pardoned his family because they had gone through years of investigations already and he said enough was enough. Trump was campaigning on judicial retribution for his legal troubles and Joe wanted to protect his family.

He lied when he said he wouldn't pardon Hunter. I think everybody knew that was a lie when he said it. He has no excuse for that. Shouldn't lie to the American people when you're POTUS. Shame on him for that.

The other stuff you mentioned is just conjecture and conspiracy theories. No proof

Biden lied when he said he had no knowledge of hunters business practice. He knew he had been accepting Kickbacks for political favors. He had to pardon his family to protect himself. Stop lying Slade, be better

 

[Mac-7]

Looks like your finding a better shade of lipstick to put on the pig... fact remains... you're still kissing a pig

How so?

 

[Slade3200]

Biden lied when he said he had no knowledge of hunters business practice. He knew he had been accepting Kickbacks for political favors. He had to pardon his family to protect himself. Stop lying Slade, be better

You have no clue what he knew and didn't know. Do yourself a favor and stop playing mind reader. Stick to the facts.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Biden did not run in the last election.

Didn't say he did

You have no clue what he knew and didn't know. Do yourself a favor and stop playing mind reader. Stick to the facts.

It was demonstrated what he knew and didn't know in the house report. If you weren't full of dishonesty you would be empty. You really should go away and come back when you grow up, I grow weary of proving you wrong Slade. And stop lying dammit, it insults all of our intelligence. Don't make me go back to "the list"

 

[ding]

thew fk it isn't. you have no clue what will happen and yet you are blathering doom and gloom, that's fearmongering 101.

Price affects demand. It's a fundamental economic principle. Do you need to be a rocket scientist or afraid to know what happens when prices rise?

 

[jc456]

Price affects demand. It's a fundamental economic principle. Do you need to be a rocket scientist or afraid to know what happens when prices rise?

Prices have risen in the past four years and what happened? 9 fking dollar gas 9.00 eggs what happened?

 

[struth]

I'm not making excuses for Bidens actions when it came to Pardons. Im just saying that they don't prove the conspiracy theories to be true. He did them to save his family from investigations and harassment. They could be innocent or they could be guilty but there has been years to show proof and prove the guilt. It didn't happen

They didn’t stop any investigations, pardons are for crimes against the United States

People he blanket pardons protect them from ever being convicted of those crimes, but not from any investigation. Certainly given the amount of years he gave the unprecedented pardons for highlights their criminal enterprise was must larger then we all thought

 

[Stann]

Trump’s getting roasted in the latest New York Times piece, and it’s juicy! He was strutting around, promising 145% tariffs on Chinese goods would force companies to build factories in the USA. But surprise, surprise—his big plan’s a total dud! Big dogs like Walmart and Target told him straight: his tariffs would jack up prices and leave shelves empty. Now Trump’s admitting they’re a bust and backing off fast.

Where’s the “deal-maker” who was gonna make the world beg? Looks like reality slapped him silly!


The article’s got more dirt. Trump’s not just caving on tariffs. He’s dodging other fights too. He backed off firing the Federal Reserve chairman and, with the stock market down 10% since he started, his Treasury secretary’s scrambling to avoid a full-on trade war with China. This is the guy who said he’d make global trade bow to America, but now he’s learning it’s not as easy as tweeting tough. The Times calls it a “vivid case study” in Trump’s economic faceplant. Anyone else cracking up at this?


Trump’s crew is spinning it like he’s playing 4D chess, with his press secretary saying “have patience” and claiming 90 countries are ready to deal. Yeah, sure, Karoline! Sounds like a weak excuse for a guy who’s in way over his head. Check out the full takedown on nytimes.com. It’s brutal. So, what’s the vibe? Is Trump’s retreat a total humiliation, or are his diehards still buying the “genius” act? Spill the tea below and let’s clown this flop! #TrumpTariffs #BigL

Trump’s Tariffs Bump Into Reality as Economic Strategy Wavers

President Trump has said his punishing tariffs would force companies to build factories in the United States. But it is far from clear that they will have the effects he predicted.

www.nytimes.com

There was absolutely no planning put into all this crap ; what else would you expect the end result to be. trump is a walking disaster, always has been.

 

[struth]

You have no clue what he knew and didn't know. Do yourself a favor and stop playing mind reader. Stick to the facts.

Of course we know, we have had investigations. We know he lied

 

[Slade3200]

It was demonstrated what he knew and didn't know in the house report. If you weren't full of dishonesty you would be empty. You really should go away and come back when you grow up, I grow weary of proving you wrong Slade. And stop lying dammit, it insults all of our intelligence. Don't make me go back to "the list"

The August 2024 House Republican report alleged Joe Biden committed impeachable offenses through influence peddling and obstruction but did not show direct evidence of criminal activity by the President. It relied on circumstantial evidence—SARs, bank records, and associate testimony—that failed to prove Joe Biden personally benefited from or influenced policy for his family’s $27 million in foreign payments. Discredited claims (e.g., Smirnov’s bribery story), lack of specific policy links, and testimony denying Biden’s involvement (e.g., Archer, Hunter) undermine the report’s criminal allegations. While ethical questions persist about the Biden family’s business practices, no federal crimes by Joe Biden were substantiated, and no charges have been filed. The report’s focus on impeachment, not prosecution, and the absence of a House vote reflect its political rather than legal weight.

 

[struth]

The August 2024 House Republican report alleged Joe Biden committed impeachable offenses through influence peddling and obstruction but did not show direct evidence of criminal activity by the President. It relied on circumstantial evidence—SARs, bank records, and associate testimony—that failed to prove Joe Biden personally benefited from or influenced policy for his family’s $27 million in foreign payments. Discredited claims (e.g., Smirnov’s bribery story), lack of specific policy links, and testimony denying Biden’s involvement (e.g., Archer, Hunter) undermine the report’s criminal allegations. While ethical questions persist about the Biden family’s business practices, no federal crimes by Joe Biden were substantiated, and no charges have been filed. The report’s focus on impeachment, not prosecution, and the absence of a House vote reflect its political rather than legal weight.

Yeah people get convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time

But that’s just someone’s opinion of the damning report. Frankly the fact he lied so much is direct evidence of guilt

 

[Slade3200]

How so?

Of course he is negotiating with our "friends" he blew up the economy and is forcing their hand. Thats a great way to blow up friendships as well. If his target was China and their loopholes he could have worked with our friends to leverage China. He didn't do that. He started with Canada of all places and then the rest of the world. Damage done. Now he is in clean up mode so don't get too excited when he starts making deals. All he is doing is cleaning up the colossal mess that he made.

 

[Slade3200]

Yeah people get convicted on circumstantial evidence all the time

But that’s just someone’s opinion of the damning report. Frankly the fact he lied so much is direct evidence of guilt

Trump lies all the time every day. Have you ever said that was evidence of his guilt?