Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[Dragonlady]

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

There is no scale to measure this level of delusion.

I love that you avatar is Donald Sutherland - a Canadian actor who was famously married to the daughter of socialist, Tommy Douglas, the guy who gave Canada socialized medicine.

A right wing loon, using a Canadian socialist icon as an avatar. Stupid Russians.

 

[danielpalos]

The Hussein administration was the first one in modern history not to ever get to 3% GDP in a yearly average in eight freaking stagnant years. Are y'all lefties sure you want to open the GDP can 'o worms?

by some measures, our recession was pretty Bad. the right wing glosses over it because they "barely felt it" due to all of our social programs.

 

[RealDave]

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

So scientists are wrong & the assdfuck that wrote the article is right. I get it.

The idea that you have zero concept of the scientific processes involved with trying to homogenize data taken by different instrumentation at different locations with a wide range of factors not related to the average global temperatures.

We all know... wait, those with a ******* brain know that when you measure temperatures in urban areas that there is heat generated by all the concrete. So these temps would need adjusted to remove that factor. Blending information from tree rings, ice cores, historical literature, etc all take adjusting .

Kind of like when you look at the number of jobs created each month. They are seasonally adjusted. Why aren't you runnung screaming through the streets screaming " OMG OMG OMG OMG" about that?

The fact is that you are just inherently stupid. Or inherently selfish. You are scared to death action might cost you money & you want to cling to your pennies while sacrificing your own children.

Which is it?



The ptroblem with you is that yiou sre ingherently stuopid.

 

[imawhosure]

There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

So scientists are wrong & the assdfuck that wrote the article is right. I get it.

The idea that you have zero concept of the scientific processes involved with trying to homogenize data taken by different instrumentation at different locations with a wide range of factors not related to the average global temperatures.

We all know... wait, those with a ******* brain know that when you measure temperatures in urban areas that there is heat generated by all the concrete. So these temps would need adjusted to remove that factor. Blending information from tree rings, ice cores, historical literature, etc all take adjusting .

Kind of like when you look at the number of jobs created each month. They are seasonally adjusted. Why aren't you runnung screaming through the streets screaming " OMG OMG OMG OMG" about that?

The fact is that you are just inherently stupid. Or inherently selfish. You are scared to death action might cost you money & you want to cling to your pennies while sacrificing your own children.

Which is it?



The ptroblem with you is that yiou sre ingherently stuopid.

1. Stupid is spelled s-t-u-p-I-d

2. Another way you can spell it is RealDave. Choose which one you want.

3. The blogger has links to the actual articles.

4. Today we find out OACs GND, is now projected to cost over 90 trillion. How is that working out for ya!

5. In case you didn’t actually check it out, only 52% of Scientists even PARTIALLY agree with your take on things. What do you think of that, or don’t you think?

6. You talking about money cost is kinda funny! You are ridiculous, 30 trillion for healthcare, 94 trillion for GND, and you believe we can do this.

Do you live on Fantasy island or what!


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[RealDave]

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

So scientists are wrong & the assdfuck that wrote the article is right. I get it.

The idea that you have zero concept of the scientific processes involved with trying to homogenize data taken by different instrumentation at different locations with a wide range of factors not related to the average global temperatures.

We all know... wait, those with a ******* brain know that when you measure temperatures in urban areas that there is heat generated by all the concrete. So these temps would need adjusted to remove that factor. Blending information from tree rings, ice cores, historical literature, etc all take adjusting .

Kind of like when you look at the number of jobs created each month. They are seasonally adjusted. Why aren't you runnung screaming through the streets screaming " OMG OMG OMG OMG" about that?

The fact is that you are just inherently stupid. Or inherently selfish. You are scared to death action might cost you money & you want to cling to your pennies while sacrificing your own children.

Which is it?



The ptroblem with you is that yiou sre ingherently stuopid.

1. Stupid is spelled s-t-u-p-I-d

2. Another way you can spell it is RealDave. Choose which one you want.

3. The blogger has links to the actual articles.

4. Today we find out OACs GND, is now projected to cost over 90 trillion. How is that working out for ya!

5. In case you didn’t actually check it out, only 52% of Scientists even PARTIALLY agree with your take on things. What do you think of that, or don’t you think?

6. You talking about money cost is kinda funny! You are ridiculous, 30 trillion for healthcare, 94 trillion for GND, and you believe we can do this.

Do you live on Fantasy island or what!


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This is a message bosrd with a lot of really stupid people posting, not a PhD thesis. I have typos. Deal with it or not.

Your blog linked to his own blog.

The vast majority of climate scientists believe climate change is happening & man is the likely cause.

Over the past ten years, climate change has cost this country 2.5 trillion dollars. And we have just started to experience it. a 1 degree C rise. If we do nothing, it could be another 3 degrees C.

Instead of screaming OMG OMG like a little girl, do some thinking.

We can pay to stop it, or we can pay more to try to remedy the effects as people suffer. We could have wars over food & water.

Y

We current;y spend 3.5 trillion a year as a country on healthcare. OMG OMG OMG 35 trillion!!@!! OMG OMG OMG.

Medicare for all would reduce the amount Americans pay for Healthcare.

 

[imawhosure]

So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

So scientists are wrong & the assdfuck that wrote the article is right. I get it.

The idea that you have zero concept of the scientific processes involved with trying to homogenize data taken by different instrumentation at different locations with a wide range of factors not related to the average global temperatures.

We all know... wait, those with a ******* brain know that when you measure temperatures in urban areas that there is heat generated by all the concrete. So these temps would need adjusted to remove that factor. Blending information from tree rings, ice cores, historical literature, etc all take adjusting .

Kind of like when you look at the number of jobs created each month. They are seasonally adjusted. Why aren't you runnung screaming through the streets screaming " OMG OMG OMG OMG" about that?

The fact is that you are just inherently stupid. Or inherently selfish. You are scared to death action might cost you money & you want to cling to your pennies while sacrificing your own children.

Which is it?



The ptroblem with you is that yiou sre ingherently stuopid.

1. Stupid is spelled s-t-u-p-I-d

2. Another way you can spell it is RealDave. Choose which one you want.

3. The blogger has links to the actual articles.

4. Today we find out OACs GND, is now projected to cost over 90 trillion. How is that working out for ya!

5. In case you didn’t actually check it out, only 52% of Scientists even PARTIALLY agree with your take on things. What do you think of that, or don’t you think?

6. You talking about money cost is kinda funny! You are ridiculous, 30 trillion for healthcare, 94 trillion for GND, and you believe we can do this.

Do you live on Fantasy island or what!


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This is a message bosrd with a lot of really stupid people posting, not a PhD thesis. I have typos. Deal with it or not.

Your blog linked to his own blog.

The vast majority of climate scientists believe climate change is happening & man is the likely cause.

Over the past ten years, climate change has cost this country 2.5 trillion dollars. And we have just started to experience it. a 1 degree C rise. If we do nothing, it could be another 3 degrees C.

Instead of screaming OMG OMG like a little girl, do some thinking.

We can pay to stop it, or we can pay more to try to remedy the effects as people suffer. We could have wars over food & water.

Y

We current;y spend 3.5 trillion a year as a country on healthcare. OMG OMG OMG 35 trillion!!@!! OMG OMG OMG.

Medicare for all would reduce the amount Americans pay for Healthcare.

Well Dave, you are wrong, but you can’t argue with a religious zealot. Hope you find your holy grail, I really do.

You can NOT debate with someone who keeps using phony facts such as yourself, therefore I surrender.

Have a great GND, lol.


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[busybee01]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

Manufacturing has returned and China is stumbling, while Trump is addressing the trade imbalances and lack of contribution from allies.

He is doing what he can. If it were up to him, I am willing to guess you would see many budget cuts to excess waste.

Manufacturing began to come back under Obama even though he had nothing to do with it. Cheap natural gas, better control and better infrastructure are a few of the reasons. Trump is doing nothing for trade imbalances as they are growing as businesses stock up on Chinese made products.

He is doing the same thing that Democrats are doing. Each side has its sacred cows and refuse to give them up.

 

[Correll]

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

There is no scale to measure this level of delusion.

I love that you avatar is Donald Sutherland - a Canadian actor who was famously married to the daughter of socialist, Tommy Douglas, the guy who gave Canada socialized medicine.

A right wing loon, using a Canadian socialist icon as an avatar. Stupid Russians.

Or, he might be using an image of a movie character. YOu know, the character "Oddball".


Which as it is his NAME, makes a lot more sense than your silly point.

 

[g5000]

Trump: We're Going To See Economic Growth Of 4, 5 And Maybe 6 Percent

 

[AceRothstein]

Trump fails to get 3% growth in 2018 which was likely his only chance to do so.

 

[Ted Frazier]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

Update : Trump promise falls short by far in 2018: The U.S. economy grew 2.9% in 2018

 

[Brain357]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

Update : Trump promise falls short by far in 2018: The U.S. economy grew 2.9% in 2018

Doubt the first quarter of 2019 will be that great after shutdown...

 

[bendog]

Careful, the mods might "move" the thread.

 

[danielpalos]

There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

So scientists are wrong & the assdfuck that wrote the article is right. I get it.

The idea that you have zero concept of the scientific processes involved with trying to homogenize data taken by different instrumentation at different locations with a wide range of factors not related to the average global temperatures.

We all know... wait, those with a ******* brain know that when you measure temperatures in urban areas that there is heat generated by all the concrete. So these temps would need adjusted to remove that factor. Blending information from tree rings, ice cores, historical literature, etc all take adjusting .

Kind of like when you look at the number of jobs created each month. They are seasonally adjusted. Why aren't you runnung screaming through the streets screaming " OMG OMG OMG OMG" about that?

The fact is that you are just inherently stupid. Or inherently selfish. You are scared to death action might cost you money & you want to cling to your pennies while sacrificing your own children.

Which is it?



The ptroblem with you is that yiou sre ingherently stuopid.

upgrading infrastructure could include reclaiming any heat energy.

 

[g5000]

The sun rose for the most days in a row ever today.

ALL HAIL TRUMP!

Update : Trump promise falls short by far in 2018: The U.S. economy grew 2.9% in 2018

DEEP STAIT! HILARPELOSIYELLENOBAMA's fault!

 

[Brain357]

And he grew deficits dramatically. What a failure.

 

[bendog]

And he grew deficits dramatically. What a failure.

And AOC gets pilloried (rightfully so) for suggesting we just print more money. LOL

 

[RealDave]

And he grew deficits dramatically. What a failure.

And AOC gets pilloried (rightfully so) for suggesting we just print more money. LOL

Who is printing more money?????
Name one bill the Republicans have passed in the last 15 years that was properly funded.

 

[McRocket]

And he grew deficits dramatically. What a failure.

Really.

There is simply NO EXCUSE WHATSOEVER for running a MASSIVE deficit while the economy is supposed to be 'strong'.

Any moron can spend money he does not have.

 

[danielpalos]

Only lousy capitalists lose money on public policies.