Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[Harpy Eagle]

So you think that the soils are the same everywhere? Moisture the same? You can irrigate when it is too ry but what di you do if it were to be too wet especially at the wrong time?

It is so naive to just think Montana will become the new Iowa.

And to ignore the cost & the devastation to the Iowa farmers whose families have farmerd their land for generations.

All because we are too ******* stupid to cut emissions?

I am not ignoring anything, I understand the cost.

We can ***** and moan about it, but people are not going to change, the "fixes" will be too late to save the heartland even if they are applied. People need to prepare for the changes vice whining about how stupid people are.

So, you think we should not make the effort to reduce emissions?
We should just STFU & not try to elect smart people to make the commitment to reduce the emissions?
We should allow the stupid to be duped & just accept it????

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

You keep on doing that, let me know how it works out.

Meanwhile, I will keep working with farmers and ranchers helping them to make decisions based upon data so they can adapt to the coming changes as much as possible.

 

[danielpalos]

raising the minimum wage will increase growth and tax revenue.

 

[deanrd]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

No it can’t be true. Republicans swear Trump is honest. They believe him 100% and completely. This is got to be information coming from the deep state.

Trump would never lie. He’s the most honest politician we’ve ever had.

Of course Trump believes Russia over Intel agencies because for years our Intel agencies have been telling us Russia is dangerous, but Trump proved that it’s not the Russians who are dangerous, it’s the United States that’s the enemy of the world and that’s why Trump is trying to take down the United States, to save the world.

 

[imawhosure]

So you think that the soils are the same everywhere? Moisture the same? You can irrigate when it is too ry but what di you do if it were to be too wet especially at the wrong time?

It is so naive to just think Montana will become the new Iowa.

And to ignore the cost & the devastation to the Iowa farmers whose families have farmerd their land for generations.

All because we are too ******* stupid to cut emissions?

I am not ignoring anything, I understand the cost.

We can ***** and moan about it, but people are not going to change, the "fixes" will be too late to save the heartland even if they are applied. People need to prepare for the changes vice whining about how stupid people are.

So, you think we should not make the effort to reduce emissions?
We should just STFU & not try to elect smart people to make the commitment to reduce the emissions?
We should allow the stupid to be duped & just accept it????

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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[Harpy Eagle]

So you think that the soils are the same everywhere? Moisture the same? You can irrigate when it is too ry but what di you do if it were to be too wet especially at the wrong time?

It is so naive to just think Montana will become the new Iowa.

And to ignore the cost & the devastation to the Iowa farmers whose families have farmerd their land for generations.

All because we are too ******* stupid to cut emissions?

I am not ignoring anything, I understand the cost.

We can ***** and moan about it, but people are not going to change, the "fixes" will be too late to save the heartland even if they are applied. People need to prepare for the changes vice whining about how stupid people are.

So, you think we should not make the effort to reduce emissions?
We should just STFU & not try to elect smart people to make the commitment to reduce the emissions?
We should allow the stupid to be duped & just accept it????

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

 

[imawhosure]

I am not ignoring anything, I understand the cost.

We can ***** and moan about it, but people are not going to change, the "fixes" will be too late to save the heartland even if they are applied. People need to prepare for the changes vice whining about how stupid people are.

So, you think we should not make the effort to reduce emissions?
We should just STFU & not try to elect smart people to make the commitment to reduce the emissions?
We should allow the stupid to be duped & just accept it????

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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[Harpy Eagle]

So, you think we should not make the effort to reduce emissions?
We should just STFU & not try to elect smart people to make the commitment to reduce the emissions?
We should allow the stupid to be duped & just accept it????

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

 

[imawhosure]

I am a pragmatist, not an idealist. I understand human nature well enough to know we will not cut emission fast enough to stop many of the changes.

We are already cutting emissions, almost all countries are, even China.

But the "new green deal" will never become a reality (nor should it) and as such we need to prepare for changes, instead of fighting over who's fault it is.

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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[Harpy Eagle]

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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You are asking for an answer that does not exist. It just highlights your ignorance.

You might as well be asking how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored.

 

[imawhosure]

Trump is taking us backwards. Republicans are taking us backwards.

Maybe you will sit on your ass & do nothing, I will continue to push.

I will call out each & every ******* idiot denying AGW. Here, in my local paper, during the elections, eyc.

I will not allow my children & grandchildren to suffer because I gave up.

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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[Harpy Eagle]

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

 

[whitehall]

The Hussein administration was the first one in modern history not to ever get to 3% GDP in a yearly average in eight freaking stagnant years. Are y'all lefties sure you want to open the GDP can 'o worms?

 

[RealDave]

Hey, the Trump administration has announced it is going to take a deep look into AGW.

Problem is————> just like your collusion delusion, if you don’t like the findings, you will just keep investigating until someone from OPEC, Russia, or China supports what you want to hear as it is obvious, you are BRAINWASHED!

And here, Americans have always wondered how Islamists could put on bomb belts, then blow themselves up.

Well folks, maybe not quite as radical, but let me introduce you to REALcrazyDAVE, and his like minded friends like AOC!


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You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

 

[RealDave]

The Hussein administration was the first one in modern history not to ever get to 3% GDP in a yearly average in eight freaking stagnant years. Are y'all lefties sure you want to open the GDP can 'o worms?

Bring it on & don;t forget to talk about the -6% growth Bush left for Obama.

 

[imawhosure]

You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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Nope, and I also do not know how many touchdowns the winner of the World Series scored last year

You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


Sent from my iPhone using USMessageBoard.com

If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

This post is for Realdave, even as I have added Golfing gator. Mr Gator has been rather civil, and I apologize to him at times if I was not in my retorts.

But to realDave----------------> You can inundate us with graphs, sites, and everything else you want to prove your point, but NOWHERE can you prove the accuracy of what the sites say.

Now, your BIGGEST talking point that has been debunked 500 times is always------------>97% of Scientists agree with YOUR position. That is a LIE, or you are spouting facts you have no clue about.

I am adding a link that has 5 of the biggest hoax outtings on climate change. I wasn't going to search all over the web for them, so I took them from one source which I thought would be much easier.

The main one I was looking for was your incessant 97% scientists statement, that you smugly sit behind and point at constantly. It is PHONY, so you better redo your talking points if you are concerned about accuracy!

Let me finish by saying--------------->people like YOU asserting that WE are climate change deniers is totally misleading, and another one of your phony talking points. We do NOT deny it might be happening, we just aren't convinced you have provided enough proof that it is totally because of human activity.

And you know NOT the GND, but the Paris Climate accord? Well your own scientists studied that, and their conclusion was that------------>if we instituted EVERYTHING world wide in that accord, we would drop the temperature 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years. (I don't remember if it was Fahrenheit or Celsius) Look it up if you don't believe me. Untold TRILLIONS to drop the temp 2/10ths of one degree in 100 years.

Therefore, I have absolutely no problem with what you believe. But, by the law of diminishing returns; even if you were to be proven 100% correct, you have NO SOLUTION! All you do is run around screaming we have to do something, and people like you want to invest trillions upon trillions into a program that ADMITS it will have little or no effect. You know what that is? Making yourself feel GOOD about doing something that doesn't work, and you wanting to feel better by forcing the rest of us to go along with your crackpot solutions. NOT GONNA HAPPEN!

LINK----------->The Five Top Arguments Against Climate Alarmism | The Deplorable Climate Science Blog

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

I have not seen a final number for the economy of 2018 yet but if this is an accurate number it beats the last administration.

2% is the new normal. At least that was what we were told. Could not get better. To beat 3 % is doing good. I am not aware of anytime that our economy has been able to hit 4%.

I assume you have never heard a politician on the campaign trail before. Since you are unfamiliar with what they do if you take 90% of what they say as fact then you are either stupid or extremely guliblible.

This is what I want to hear from Trump supporters. I don’t want excuses. I want them to admit, like this guy just did, that Trump was full of shit and making shit up and lying to people like he often does .

So you want to make out Trump as somehow worse then other politicians because he lies. You really are delusional. We just got done with one that said 2% was the best we could hope for. Everyone would save how much on ACA? Good for you for pointing out that Trump lied. Now do you want to make a federal case out of every other politician because everyone of them lie. Or is it just your Trump Derangement rearing its head?

Remember when people claimed they voted for Trump because he wasn't a politician only for those same people to go on and on about how he's just a politician who lies like all of the other politicians??

I predict this will be the beginning of the escape hatch trump supporters will escape from when the Trump presidency goes the way of the Bush presidency...because most of these trump supporters were sycophants for Bush beforehand...until reality slapped Bush's dick from their mouth --then they all put on funny little hats and called themselves Tea-Party conservatives until the next demagogue came along

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The Hussein administration was the first one in modern history not to ever get to 3% GDP in a yearly average in eight freaking stagnant years. Are y'all lefties sure you want to open the GDP can 'o worms?

And Trump is keeping that streak alive.


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[Rustic]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

Na, not really

 

[Rustic]

4% is a big number for such a large economy. The fact he hit 3% is an achievement.

It's much easier to achieve if you cut down your expenses, which neither party seems willing to do.

His economy isn't doing nearly as well in GDP growith, in job creation, or in wage growth, as the Obama economy. Trump promised "jobs on steriods", and that's not happening. He promises workers a $4000 a year raise from the corporate tax cuts, and that's not happening.

You want to achieve growth, raise wages. There's a lot of pent up demand among working Americans and the middle class, but they lack the money to act on that demand. All of the sluggishness with growth can be tied directly to the fact that the working and middle class have had no real raises in income since 1980, and have seen their savings and equity eroded by inflation and recessions.

blah blah blah, ... but you're not entitled to your own facts.


Obama failed across-the-board, and Trump and America are winning.

Speaking of those who are not entitled to their own facts!!!

Obama was the MOST economically successful President since Eisenhaurer. He save not just the American economy, but the world economy from collapse. Anyone who says that Obama "failed" the American people is either wilfully ignorant and should refrain from commenting on economics until you get a clue, or you're lying.

Obama created the longest period of sustained growth in US history:

U.S.: real GDP growth by quarter 2011-2018 | Statista

Given that you're a self described "Meathead", I'm going with "Don't comment on the economy until you get a clue".

Na, not really

 

[Rustic]

You accuse people of being brainwashed and of delusions, yet all you do is parrot the party talking points on the topic.

Have you ever read a scientific article or journal on the topic?

Have you ever downloaded the data set and ran it through a program like SPSS or R and saw what the results were?

Do you get all your science from the TV news and your party emails or just some of it?

You studied all this stuff? Damn dude, then you are exactly the person I want to ask this question of————/> QUESTION: in what year of its existence was planet earth at its correct and proper temperature, and how did you conclude in that year, it was the exact temperature it was suppose to be?


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There is no correct and proper temperature and nobody has ever claimed there was. You continue to show your ignorance and you keep parroting your partisan talking points.

When you are sick, do you go to the doctor or do you call FoxNew for medical advise?

When you car breaks, do you go to a mechanic or do you call your party leaders and ask them for talking points on how to fix it?

Hey, are you claiming that YOU don’t know? So you are willing to guess, and you claim that is science, lol. You are kidding us, right!


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So, I want everyone to get this straight thinking logically.........neither the learned Gator nor Dave can tell you what the real correct temperature of planet earth should be. They also aren’t sure that their efforts will move the needle, and if it does, they aren’t even sure they will be moving the needle in the correct direction.

For this supposed scientific endeavor, they want you to invest untold trillions, and they still can’t tell you what is the MEAN temperature Mother Earth should be at. They just want to play with the temperature and guess.

I guess AOC and REALDumb have someone else on the stupid train they abandoned in California now, and he has a putter in his hand!


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If we want to maintain our current ways of doing things like agriculture, coastal cities, hvac design, transportation then we bneec the climate we had 20 or so years ago. Humans, animals, plants have adapted to this climate.

When we see the rise in average global temperatures climb as rapidly as it has, then the baseline of our existence changes.

When agriculture changes, will we be able to feed our people? How do we handle the loss of farmland in the bread belt? When orchards no longer produce because of climate changes, when coastal cities start to flood & hurricanes produce much worse storm surge floods, or when the buildings i the cities find their a/c will not handle 6-10 degree higher temps. or our electric grid.

Here in PA, I live in orchard country. Apple orchards have already been leaving heading North because of the change in climate.

Why should all these people have to make all these changes when it is avoidable?

Why should all thos happen because of the dumbfucks like you who are too stupid to get it?

As for temperatures, get off your fat lazy ass & read the literature on how temperature rises will affect our way of life.

And remember to tell you children how you could care less about their future.

Instead of being a smart ass, do something that will help your own kids.

Fake news