Trump would beat DeSantis

Wut?

Reading is fundamental.

DeSantis said. “It’s not saying that you don’t ever make a mistake in your personal life, but I think, what type of character are you bringing? … I think the person is more about how you handle your public duties and the kind of character you bring to that endeavor.”

DeSantis also pointed to Trump’s leadership style, backing away from what he called the former president’s “daily drama.”

“You bring your own agenda in, you’re gone,” he said. “We’re just not going to have that. So, the way we run the government, I think, is no daily drama, focus on the big picture and put points on the board, and I think that’s something that’s very important.”

He went on to say that voters needed to “agree that there’s a certain reality to the world we live in,” an apparent dig at Trump’s penchant for lies and misinformation after his 2020 reelection loss.

“Truth is essential,” DeSantis said. “We have to agree that there’s a certain reality to the world we live in, and if we can just create our own facts, then we’re never going to be able to agree on anything or never really be able to do policy in a way that makes sense, and so, yes, it’s not your truth or my truth, it’s the truth.”

 
Wut?

Reading is fundamental.
“Ron DeSanctimonious will probably find out about FALSE ACCUSATIONS & FAKE STORIES sometime in the future, as he gets older, wiser, and better known, when he’s unfairly and illegally attacked by a woman, even classmates that are ‘underage’ (or possibly a man!),” Trump raged on his Truth Social media network. “I’m sure he will want to fight these misfits just like I do!”

DeSantis added that the barbs about his name don’t bother him, saying it wasn’t important for him “to be fighting with people on social media.”
“To me, it’s just background noise,” the governor said.

Nothing fake about the Stormy Daniels story.
 
DeSantis said. “It’s not saying that you don’t ever make a mistake in your personal life, but I think, what type of character are you bringing? … I think the person is more about how you handle your public duties and the kind of character you bring to that endeavor.”

DeSantis also pointed to Trump’s leadership style, backing away from what he called the former president’s “daily drama.”

“You bring your own agenda in, you’re gone,” he said. “We’re just not going to have that. So, the way we run the government, I think, is no daily drama, focus on the big picture and put points on the board, and I think that’s something that’s very important.”

He went on to say that voters needed to “agree that there’s a certain reality to the world we live in,” an apparent dig at Trump’s penchant for lies and misinformation after his 2020 reelection loss.

“Truth is essential,” DeSantis said. “We have to agree that there’s a certain reality to the world we live in, and if we can just create our own facts, then we’re never going to be able to agree on anything or never really be able to do policy in a way that makes sense, and so, yes, it’s not your truth or my truth, it’s the truth.”



I don't appreciate the implication that Trump was a big liar. Exaggeration is not lying. Changing your mind on some issue is not lying.

But I guess your idols at cnn would disagree
 
I don't appreciate the implication that Trump was a big liar. Exaggeration is not lying. Changing your mind on some issue is not lying.

But I guess your idols at cnn would disagree
Trump was the king of all liars. Either you're a liar or a fool. I'm guessing fool.

He lies about all things big and small. They write books about what a liar he is.

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years​


Legacy of lies -- how Trump weaponized mistruths during his presidency​


If you are okay with this that's on you.


The other day the Daily Show was making fun of Trump saying everywhere he goes, whenever he tells a story about someone, could be a soldier, a mother, whoever. But in every story tears are running down their faces. Like 10 different speeches about 10 different people all crying when they meet Trump.

Nine “miners” greeted him backstage. They were “tough guys,” “seriously tough cookies,” men he wouldn’t want to fight. But eight of the nine were crying.

Bet that never happened.

Eight days later, on Friday, the U.S. president spoke at a campaign fundraiser in Fargo, North Dakota. Another moving moment, in his telling, occurred when he was walking into the room.

“A strong man came up to me, tough kind of a guy, and said: ‘I want to thank you, Mr. President, for saving our country.’ And he had tears coming down his eyes,” Trump said. “This wasn’t just a statement, because he had tears coming down. Unless he was a real wise guy. But he had tears coming down his eyes.”

He's lying!!!!

Trump flew from North Dakota to South Dakota. There, he repeated the story from eight days prior in Indiana, almost word for word, about how he had encountered nine men, eight of whom were crying.

But there was something odd about this version. This time the nine men were “steelworkers,” not miners, and the encounter happened “at the opening of one of the big plants for United States Steel,” not backstage at the Indiana rally.


Trump tells a lot of stories about his private interactions with people. Many of these stories are widely seen as dubious, and some of them have been shown to be lies, but most of them are carefully constructed so that they are difficult to conclusively prove fictional. So although Trump is a serial liar, we can’t say for sure that he is making all of these stories up.
 
You would think that the GOP would have someone that could come out on top of that idiot Trump. But you would be wrong. Prepare to see The Donald lose yet another rigged election hoax thingy.
 
You would think that the GOP would have someone that could come out on top of that idiot Trump. But you would be wrong. Prepare to see The Donald lose yet another rigged election hoax thingy.
Republicans should consider this but they are too stubborn.

In a general election, DeSantis would beat Trump. Trump may beat Ron in the Republican primaries but what about in the General Election? Ron would get my liberal vote.
 
Republicans should consider this but they are too stubborn.

In a general election, DeSantis would beat Trump. Trump may beat Ron in the Republican primaries but what about in the General Election? Ron would get my liberal vote.
Trump will win the GOP primary, lose against Biden, then bitch about being cheated for the next four years.
 
Yeah but what they need is someone who can beat the democrat nominee. They won’t be running against each other in the general election.
 
I'm pretty sure he'll win the primary. If he doesn't, and runs third party, the Democratic Party victory will be off the charts.
Did you say this before or after Trump was indicted?

Former President Donald Trump, already under multiple criminal investigations for his coup attempt, has been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury for his role in a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn star in the days before the 2016 election.

Trump, in a statement filled with his trademark random capitalizations, called District Attorney Alvin Bragg a “disgrace” who was “funded by George Soros,” and again called the indictment part of a supposed “witch hunt” that government officials at multiple levels have conducted against him over several years.

Though it is certain that Trump’s hush money payment is referenced in the indictment, based on grand jury appearances by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and others, it is unclear whether the indictment pertains only to that episode or to other business dealings as well. CNN reported Thursday night that a total of 34 counts are included in the indictment, suggesting that other instances of alleged business fraud may be included.

Let's wait to weigh in until we hear all 34 counts.
 
Anytime a con brings up George Soros, you know they are a conspiracy theorist nutjob listening to Infowars. Vagorie taylor Green types.
 
Did you say this before or after Trump was indicted?

Former President Donald Trump, already under multiple criminal investigations for his coup attempt, has been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury for his role in a $130,000 hush money payment to a porn star in the days before the 2016 election.

Trump, in a statement filled with his trademark random capitalizations, called District Attorney Alvin Bragg a “disgrace” who was “funded by George Soros,” and again called the indictment part of a supposed “witch hunt” that government officials at multiple levels have conducted against him over several years.

Though it is certain that Trump’s hush money payment is referenced in the indictment, based on grand jury appearances by former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen and others, it is unclear whether the indictment pertains only to that episode or to other business dealings as well. CNN reported Thursday night that a total of 34 counts are included in the indictment, suggesting that other instances of alleged business fraud may be included.

Let's wait to weigh in until we hear all 34 counts.
I said it before the indictment was handed down, though I figured that it was coming. It does throw a wrench into the gears, so I agree, let's wait.
 

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