Trump — We’re going to look into Ashli Babbitt case.

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butthole, apparently, thinks he can wee wee up his cult by attacking a policeman who stood his ground against vastly superior numbers of criminal goons who were invading the Capitol in a failed attempt to overthrow a democratic election.

Despite multiple warnings not to proceed, Babbitt attempted to climb through a shattered window beside a barricaded door and was thwarted when she was shot in her left anterior shoulder by a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer. After a USCP emergency response team administered aid, Babbitt was transported to Washington Hospital Center, where she died.

 

[irosie91]

butthole, apparently, thinks he can wee wee up his cult by attacking a policeman who stood his ground against vastly superior numbers of criminal goons who were invading the Capitol in a failed attempt to overthrow a democratic election.

Despite multiple warnings not to proceed, Babbitt attempted to climb through a shattered window beside a barricaded door and was thwarted when she was shot in her left anterior shoulder by a United States Capitol Police (USCP) officer. After a USCP emergency response team administered aid, Babbitt was transported to Washington Hospital Center, where she died.

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the cop made a tragic mistake-----can't be blamed under the circumstances

 

[Lesh]

a center mass shot would have stopped the crowd

Tear gas would have stopped the crowd.

A taser would have stopped babbit, and given a warning to the rest of thr crowd.


You call me disingenuous, but you are the one sitting here saying that you think deadly force was the only option. Deadly force is supposed to be the LAST resort.


Also, I apologize for saying her death made you feel warm and fuzzy, that wasn't right of me to assume.

Still babbling?

Bottom line… that mob was attacking Congress and when that gun was fired that attack stopped

Nothing else stopped those freaks that day

 

[ThisIsMe]

You keep repeating your stupid shit.

There is no “aiming lower”.

Cops shoot to take you down.

are police trained to shoot to kill, or shoot to stop the perpetrator?
Lesh

Period.

You keep trying to parse this out in the most ridiculous way possible

Bottom line… she was leading a mob through the last barricade protecting Congress

That mob had been breaching barricades all day .

Once she ate that bullet the attack on Congress STOPPED.

Sucks to be her. She shouldn’t have done what she did.

And I'm saying they didn't try other options, hell, the most effective option was denied to them.

Again, maybe Byrd wasn't at fault, if NO other officer there that day had any non lethal means, then I'd blame the superiors at the Capitol police, but if anyone else did have other means, don't you think you should try that first?

Why no NG? Why no tear gas? EITHER of those would have prevented J6 from becoming what it did

 

[ThisIsMe]

Can’t argue with the result.
It stopped the attack when it was at its most dangerous.

As far as tear gas… I neither know that to be true nor does it have anything to do with this event.

You’re just throwing out words.

What’s amazing is the RESTRAINT that CP used in the face of that violent mob.

I just linked you an article that showed that capitol police were denied the use of tear gas.

And no, you're right, the result was achieved, my only argument is, was it the ONLY way it could have been achieved.

 

[WorldWatcher]

a center mass shot would have stopped the crowd

Tear gas would have stopped the crowd.

A taser would have stopped babbit, and given a warning to the rest of thr crowd.


You call me disingenuous, but you are the one sitting here saying that you think deadly force was the only option. Deadly force is supposed to be the LAST resort.


Also, I apologize for saying her death made you feel warm and fuzzy, that wasn't right of me to assume.

Trump not telling the crowd to march on the Capital Building would have stopped the crowd.

See how 20/20 hindsight works.

Instead of "Well if they had this and this and that... deadly force wouldn't have been necessary..." you don't get to make the call. The context of what was happening at the time and the fact that he was the ONLY law enforcement officer at that location at that time as the violent mob breeched the final barricade is the context, and context matters.

WW

 

[ThisIsMe]

Still babbling?

Bottom line… that mob was attacking Congress and when that gun was fired that attack stopped

Nothing else stopped those freaks that day

Because not all options were available to them.

You can't admit that, at the very least, someone should be held responsible for not using the guard, for not allowing chemical agents?

 

[Lesh]

are police trained to shoot to kill, or shoot to stop the perpetrator?
Lesh


And I'm saying they didn't try other options, hell, the most effective option was denied to them.

Again, maybe Byrd wasn't at fault, if NO other officer there that day had any non lethal means, then I'd blame the superiors at the Capitol police, but if anyone else did have other means, don't you think you should try that first?

Why no NG? Why no tear gas? EITHER of those would have prevented J6 from becoming what it did

And I’m saying they had been trying other options all day long and those options failed.

You keep babbling on as if you haven’t been responded to .

You want to find blame? Blame that stupid bitch

Blame the Oathkeepers etc, who planned and lead that attack on the Capitol

Blame Trump for setting the stage for that to happen

And then go fuck yourself

 

[ThisIsMe]

Trump not telling the crowd to march on the Capital Building would have stopped the crowd.

See how 20/20 hindsight works.

Instead of "Well if they had this and this and that... deadly force wouldn't have been necessary..." you don't get to make the call. The context of what was happening at the time and the fact that he was the ONLY law enforcement officer at that location at that time as the violent mob breeched the final barricade is the context, and context matters.

WW

Trump never told them to attack the Capitol. We have his words, he told them to go peacefully. Thise types of words have been spoken by many a politician, but it's never an issue when they do it.

Now, I am in agreement that trump should have gotten on tv and social media right away and told them to go home, instead of waiting.


But were looking at what DID happen,, and how it was handled. The police that day were not given the tools to do their job effectively. In fact, forcing them into that situation with deadly force as the only option was downright criminal, and needs to be investigated on its own.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Because not all options were available to them.

You can't admit that, at the very least, someone should be held responsible for not using the guard, for not allowing chemical agents?

Police defending the Capital did use chemical agents.

Including Tear Gas and Mace. Didn't stop them.

WW
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[LeftofLeft]

From 6' he didn't need to shoot Ashli in the neck.

A warning shot or a non-lethal shot was called for against a legitimate unarmed protester.

What is a “legitimate” unarmed protester as opposed to an unarmed protestor. Much of the social justice protesting against law enforcement in 2020 was due to unarmed suspects being shot. Now, the Left supports unarmed prospects being shot because they are “legitimate”?

 

[ThisIsMe]

And I’m saying they had been trying other options all day long and those options failed.

You keep babbling on as if you haven’t been responded to .

You want to find blame? Blame that stupid bitch

Blame the Oathkeepers etc, who planned and lead that attack on the Capitol

Blame Trump for setting the stage for that to happen

And then go fuck yourself

I do blame those people for their part, and i blame the capitol police for their part as well.

And no, they weren't trying other options all day, because they were not given the effective options. Rioters shields and flash bangs is all they had.

 

[schmidlap]

Ashley Babbitt would not have been ignoring warnings not to persist in invading the Capitol if Trump had called off his goons instead of just watching them on tv for hours.

Butthole's now attacking police enforcing the law and protecting democracy is vile.

Trump claims Capitol rioter Ashli Babbitt was shot by a ‘lunatic’​

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[ThisIsMe]

Police defending the Capital did use chemical agents.

Including Tear Gas and Mace. Didn't stop them.

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Capitol Police ordered not to use tear gas canisters during Jan. 6 riot, despite them being used on Lafayette Park protesters last June

Inspector general tells Congress that Capitol Police leadership told officers not to use 37mm, 40mm & Stinger Ball Grenades.

www.wusa9.com

Capitol Police officers were limited during the Capitol riot to using flash bang grenades, which stunned protesters but didn’t leave the lingering tear gas clouds that might have allowing police to re-take areas. That's according to new testimony from Capitol Police Inspector General Michael Bolton on Thursday.

 

[Lesh]

I do blame those people for their part, and i blame the capitol police for their part as well.

And no, they weren't trying other options all day, because they were not given the effective options. Rioters shields and flash bangs is all they had.

Ohhh bullshit.

Blame the Capitol Police your ass.

Stop saying stupid shit. It just shows what a low life you are

 

[WorldWatcher]

Capitol Police ordered not to use tear gas canisters during Jan. 6 riot, despite them being used on Lafayette Park protesters last June

Inspector general tells Congress that Capitol Police leadership told officers not to use 37mm, 40mm & Stinger Ball Grenades.

www.wusa9.com

Geeee,

Must have changed because I showed pictures from J6 where police used tear gas and chem agents.

WW

 

[ThisIsMe]

Ohhh bullshit.

Blame the Capitol Police your ass.

Stop saying stupid shit. It just shows what a low life you are

For pointing out that they were not provided the tools to do the job at hand?

 

[Lesh]

Capitol Police ordered not to use tear gas canisters during Jan. 6 riot, despite them being used on Lafayette Park protesters last June

Inspector general tells Congress that Capitol Police leadership told officers not to use 37mm, 40mm & Stinger Ball Grenades.

www.wusa9.com

Just stop

You’re simply throwing red herrings all over.

Tear gas was not an option where Ashes took one in the neck .

But hey… you did manage to point out the fact that these violent rioters had been handled with kid gloves all day…which accounted for the damage they did

 

[ThisIsMe]

Geeee,

Must have changed because I showed pictures from J6 where police used tear gas and chem agents.

WW

don't know what to tell you, I'm quoting an article that is quoting Michael Bolton who said that those options were not available.

Maybe the cloud you see was a smoke canister one of the protesters brought, maybe the guy spraying chemical is one he picked up off the ground. Whi knows. I'm just seeing an article that from a DC news station who is quoting officials who say they didn't have those options.

 

[Lesh]

don't know what to tell you, I'm quoting an article that is quoting Michael Bolton who said that those options were not available.

Maybe the cloud you see was a smoke canister one of the protesters brought, maybe the guy spraying chemical is one he picked up off the ground. Whi knows. I'm just seeing an article that from a DC news station who is quoting officials who say they didn't have those options.

Maybe you’re just full of shit and have been for pages and pages