Trump — We’re going to look into Ashli Babbitt case.

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

A terrorist got snuffed out. Good shoot.

 

[konradv]

I remember when purple haired nose ringers said Trump didn’t care about illegals or closing the border….hahaha

You’re going after a cop that stood his ground. Good luck!

 

[Mac1958]

The United States Capitol building was under violent seige while Congress was gathered to perform the peaceful and constitutional transfer of American presidential power. Outside, Capitol cops were physically battling the attackers, and many of those cops would sustain serious and even permanent injury.

On the other side of the door in front of the badly outnumbered officers was a violent mob pushing on the doors, breaking the windows, screaming, and trying to get in. If one gets through, that could open the floodgates.

Behind the officers were the doors to the congressional chambers, where elected American representatives were hiding in fear.

One of the violent protestors in front of the officers broke through the window and started climbing through. She was ordered to stop and did not. An officer, with all of the above as context, fired.

Those are the facts. That is the context. This other noise is nothing more than standard anti-American, delusional, mal-informed MAGA cult fantasy and denial.

 

[WorldWatcher]

There was as no reason to shoot at all. The officer panicked

BTW, you don’t fire warning shots just to wound.

If Lt. Byrd had "panicked" he'd have emptied is magizine.

Instead he fired a single shot to deal with the rioter breaching the barricade.

That is demonstrating exactly the opposide of panic. The application of lethal force against only the single individual to the extend required in the situation, the shot stopped the mob for the critical seconds necessary. It shocked them giving time for law enforcement reinforcements to arrive up the stairwell behind the mob.

(I'm not saying he wasn't scared, any reasonable person being the last law enforcement officermaning the last barricade before the violent mob would be able to get their hands on the civilians you have sworn to protect would be scared. But there is a difference between scared and "panicked".)

WW

 

[JoeB131]

If possible, they need to move it to a federal court outside of DC as there is no justice to be found there.

The supposed crime happened in DC.

The problem is, DC people know cops will shoot them for looking at them funny, they won't have a problem with a crazy white woman being shot because she was part of a mob looking to murder congress.

 

[1srelluc]

The supposed crime happened in DC.

The problem is, DC people know cops will shoot them for looking at them funny, they won't have a problem with a crazy white woman being shot because she was part of a mob looking to murder congress.

I can't even remember the last time a DC metro cop shot anyone.

 

[konradv]

I remember when purple haired nose ringers said Trump didn’t care about illegals or closing the border….hahaha

Good for you, your memory isn’t totally shot. Do you remember when Republicans cared about national security?

DO YOU?

 

[DonGlock26]

Did you not read my message? Trump et al. don’t care about Ashli Babbit. She’s just a buzz word.

Are you scared?

 

[Auld Phart]

If Lt. Byrd had "panicked" he'd have emptied is magizine.

Instead he fired a single shot to deal with the rioter breaching the barricade.

That is demonstrating exactly the opposide of panic. The application of lethal force against only the single individual to the extend required in the situation, the shot stopped the mob for the critical seconds necessary. It shocked them giving time for law enforcement reinforcements to arrive up the stairwell behind the mob.

(I'm not saying he wasn't scared, any reasonable person being the last law enforcement officermaning the last barricade before the violent mob would be able to get their hands on the civilians you have sworn to protect would be scared. But there is a difference between scared and "panicked".)

WW

The application of lethal force

lethal force was not required.

 

[WorldWatcher]

lethal force was not required.

Given the violent mob breaching the last law enforcement barrier prior to them gaining access to the House Chamber…

Ya, it was.

WW

 

[Lesh]

Byrd wasn't the only officer in the hallway at that time



Lol, calm down, it's ok to disagree and even discuss. I'm not being aggressive toward you...why are you being aggressive toward me?

You ain’t “disagreeing”… you lying often and defending a traitor while attacking a hero.

Ya know… normal MAGA shit

 

[Lesh]

lethal force was not required.

It absolutely was.

Up until that gun fired, nothing stopped those rioters.

Once that shot was fired they realized things were real and backed the fuck off

 

[Lesh]

Oh come on, that's just silly. If she had gotten through the window, you think the officers there would have given her time to turn around and unlock the door? No, they would have tackled her and arrested her.

Why are you all so perplexed that I'm simply saying, why wasn't there OTHER means of defense there, why was the ONLY deterrence they had, lethal force? Why were the capitol policed ordered NOT to use the one thing that would probably have helped the most?

You disingenuous piece of shit…

The minute SHE got through that window she would have been followed by a flood of other violent MAGA creeps and that barricade (the last barricade protecting Congress) would have been breeched.

It had been happening all day

 

[Lesh]

lesh; she was exposed enough he could have aimed lower.

If you are aiming for the shoulder, you are aiming too high. The idea isn't to kill them, it's to stop them.

If you are mad that I disagree with the method that he used, that's fine, I'm simply saying that, by looking at the images from the back, she was upright enough to have an exposed chest.


Look at this video, if babbit was 5 feet tall, those windows are probably 3 feet tall, you can see when whe crawled up into the windows, she wasn't crouched too much, she was pretty upright, her chest was exposed.

There wasn't a need for Byrd to be aiming up that high. At 6 feet away, he would have had a center mass shot.

Again, I'm noticing that that window had been broken for a short time before she climbed up into it, lob some tear gas in there, disperse the crowd.

Capitol Police ordered not to use tear gas canisters during Jan. 6 riot, despite them being used on Lafayette Park protesters last June

Inspector general tells Congress that Capitol Police leadership told officers not to use 37mm, 40mm & Stinger Ball Grenades.

www.wusa9.com

WHY did capitol police leadership order the police to not use tear gas that day? THAT mistake might have stopped a lot of what happened that day.



Looks like the capitol police were intentionally hamstrung that day.

You keep repeating your stupid shit.

There is no “aiming lower”.

Cops shoot to take you down.

Period.

You keep trying to parse this out in the most ridiculous way possible

Bottom line… she was leading a mob through the last barricade protecting Congress

That mob had been breaching barricades all day .

Once she ate that bullet the attack on Congress STOPPED.

Sucks to be her. She shouldn’t have done what she did.

 

[ThisIsMe]

You ain’t “disagreeing”… you lying often and defending a traitor while attacking a hero.

Ya know… normal MAGA shit

OK, do you think the only option was deadly force?

 

[Lesh]

OK, do you think the only option was deadly force?

At that point in time given the events preceding and the risks involved?

Yup

Center mass. Big noise.

Threat to Congress over

 

[ThisIsMe]

At that point in time given the events preceding and the risks involved?

Yup

Center mass. Big noise.

Threat to Congress over

And ending the threat involved could ONLY be achieved by killing someone? No other option should be tried?

Do you not find it even a little bit odd that capitol police were ordered not to use tear has that day?

 

[OldFlame]

You’re pretty much an idiot.

Yep, not sure why the others even bother trying to 'argue' with it, it's opinions are asinine and worthless.

 

[Lesh]

And ending the threat involved could ONLY be achieved by killing someone? No other option should be tried?

Do you not find it even a little bit odd that capitol police were ordered not to use tear has that day?

Can’t argue with the result.
It stopped the attack when it was at its most dangerous.

As far as tear gas… I neither know that to be true nor does it have anything to do with this event.

You’re just throwing out words.

What’s amazing is the RESTRAINT that CP used in the face of that violent mob.

 

[ThisIsMe]

You disingenuous piece of shit…

The minute SHE got through that window she would have been followed by a flood of other violent MAGA creeps and that barricade (the last barricade protecting Congress) would have been breeched.

It had been happening all day

a center mass shot would have stopped the crowd

Tear gas would have stopped the crowd.

A taser would have stopped babbit, and given a warning to the rest of thr crowd.


You call me disingenuous, but you are the one sitting here saying that you think deadly force was the only option. Deadly force is supposed to be the LAST resort.


Also, I apologize for saying her death made you feel warm and fuzzy, that wasn't right of me to assume.