Trump.....We will own the Gaza Strip

Do you support the US military taking control of Gaza?

  • No, Hamas does not need US soldiers for target practice

    Votes: 12 70.6%
  • Yes, (fill in the rationale')

    Votes: 5 29.4%

  • Total voters
    17
Can you get any more bigoted? They've been able to provide water and electricity, they had universities and cultural centers, war tends to destroy those things. Israeli's hate Palestinians and Palestinians hate Israelis. So? French used to hate the English, so on and so forth.
no bigotry to be found there, i believe.
you see, radical muslim imams can only be pruned effectively, or they spread like a cancer. or toxic fungus.
Their fellow Arabs took in thousands of Palestinians refugees when Israel expelled them. What Egypt and Jordan don't want is another huge influx of refugees that could destabilize their countries and economies. If Gaza can be bombed with the population in it, it can be built with the population remaining there who want to remain and it is those who should be involved.
muslims should support muslims.
ffs just adopt moderate islam instead of clinging to the "beliefs" of radical islam.
 

Do you support the US military taking control of Gaza?​

yes, and i believe the US should get all of their allies to help out, maybe even the UN peacekeepers should get involved. it would be a good cover for the kids out there.

 

Do you support the US military taking control of Gaza?​

yes, and i believe the US should get all of their allies to help out, maybe even the UN peacekeepers should get involved. it would be a good cover for the kids out there.

There is no reason for the US military to become involved. given time and support, the IDF can destroy the terrorists. Given the resources the so called Palestinians will be lining up to leave. Trump should send travel agents, not soldiers. It's really not a very complicated or difficult plan, but it will take a few years to accomplish.
 
Is ethnic cleansing required for peace?
I think this is close, but not quite the right question. Let's try this instead: Might (voluntary or incentivized) ethnic cleansing that leads to peace ultimately cause less harm than on-going war?
 
Is ethnic cleansing required for peace?
Even a brainless bigot like you should be able to understand that removing the so called Palestinians from Gaza is not ethnic cleansing. They are not being removed because of who they are but because of what they do, ie, refuse to live in peace with Israel.
 
That would be like suggesting all the Jews in ... be relocated to some nice new real estate somewhere else.
Ironically, that suggestion was made recently in an ICJ advisory opinion, and yet that didn't create this kind of outrage. Ethnically cleansing Jews seems to be acceptable.
 
The point, I think, is how to most effectively and safely deradicalize the people of Gaza. They have been steeping in their own ... I'll be nice and say "tea" for generations. Deradicalization can be helped along by exposure to new ideas. Which means either sending them out or bringing new people in. Or both. While I am not opposed, in theory, to Gazan independence and self-government, it can't happen in this current state of radicalization and extremism.
 
I think this is close, but not quite the right question. Let's try this instead: Might (voluntary or incentivized) ethnic cleansing that leads to peace ultimately cause less harm than on-going war?
What constitutes voluntary? Is creating and/or perpetrating a situation that is so unlivable people have no choice but to leave to survive “voluntary”? Will they be allowed to return?

“Incentivized”? Still sounds sounds like ethnic cleansing.

If the desired end result is to permanently remove a population, then yes, it is ethnic cleansing. What is the intent?
 
Ironically, that suggestion was made recently in an ICJ advisory opinion, and yet that didn't create this kind of outrage. Ethnically cleansing Jews seems to be acceptable.
So is ethnically cleansing Palestinians. Where do we go from here?
 
If the desired end result is to permanently remove a population, then yes, it is ethnic cleansing. What is the intent?
As I attempted to point out in my post, the intent is that peace with (voluntary incentivized) ethnic cleansing may be less harmful than an on-going war.

What constitutes voluntary? Is creating and/or perpetrating a situation that is so unlivable people have no choice but to leave to survive “voluntary”?
Well no, the plan, in its entirety, is to rebuild Gaza and ensure it has a thriving economy and a successful government going forward.
Will they be allowed to return?
It will be up to the new government of Gaza, whoever that turns out to be. They should act according to the understanding that they will not be permitted to return as citizens.
“Incentivized”? Still sounds sounds like ethnic cleansing.
The lack of $ available to Gaza has not been a limiting factor, so yeah, incentivize away. All those UNWRA funds, lets put them towards ending the fake refugee status of the people of Gaza by putting the money in their own hands to build a life that suits them.
 
The point, I think, is how to most effectively and safely deradicalize the people of Gaza. They have been steeping in their own ... I'll be nice and say "tea" for generations. Deradicalization can be helped along by exposure to new ideas.

Open Gaza up to the free flow of people, education and commerce. Work, in good faith, to set up a plan for its governance. Work on solutions that don’t involve committing war crimes. It doesn’t help that Israel put Gaza under a blockade effectively locking people in and creating a haven for Hamas and an entire generation that has know nothing else.


Which means either sending them out or bringing new people in. Or both. While I am not opposed, in theory, to Gazan independence and self-government, it can't happen in this current state of radicalization and extremism.
“Sending people out” and not allowing them to return is going increase radicalization if you are talking about expulsions.

For anything to work, it needs to be voluntary and the Palestinian people need to be the ones making tbe decisions about the future Gaza not others.
 
As I attempted to point out in my post, the intent is that peace with (voluntary incentivized) ethnic cleansing may be less harmful than an on-going war.

Is that the only solution to ongoing war? I think this is a slippery slope.

Well no, the plan, in its entirety, is to rebuild Gaza and ensure it has a thriving economy and a successful government going forward.

It will be up to the new government of Gaza, whoever that turns out to be. They should act according to the understanding that they will not be permitted to return as citizens.
Why?


The lack of $ available to Gaza has not been a limiting factor, so yeah, incentivize away. All those UNWRA funds, lets put them towards ending the fake refugee status of the people of Gaza by putting the money in their own hands to build a life that suits them.
Why not?
 
Open Gaza up to the free flow of people, education and commerce.
What percentage of Gazans are not for death cult Hamas???
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Well, if its fair for the one, its fair for the other.
So we a bunch of people on one side wanting to expel Jews and a bunch people on the other side wanting to expel Palestinians. However it is worth noting only one side actually has the power carry an expulsion and has actually entertained ideas to do so.

The fact it is even up for discussion for anyone, is abhorrent.
 
For anything to work, it needs to be voluntary and the Palestinian people need to be the ones making tbe decisions about the future Gaza not others.
I would agree in principle. But they made their decisions. Now someone else has to step in and drive this train. They have proven that they are not, at the moment, capable.
 
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