trump was unaware that his BBB cut Medicaid

[Lisa558]

California can spend their taxpayer dollars how they please.

Tell me why you think that federal money is going to the illegal aliens and not only going to the citizens?

1. No, they cannot spend OUR taxpayer dollars on illegals.

2. Now you’re going to pretend that CA is not putting their illegals on health insurance, using Medicaid dollars?

 

[Marener]

If you give me 1000 dollars to pay my rent and see me at Best Buy later that day buying a flat screen tv would you be mad? I swear it was a different 1000 dollars.

Why would I be mad? As long as you paid the rent, what you do at Best Buy is your business.

 

[Marener]

No, they cannot spend OUR taxpayer dollars on illegals.

Again, why do you think they’re using federal taxpayer dollars (a lot of which come from California) on illegals and not using those federal dollars for the citizens?

 

[Lisa558]

Why would I be mad? As long as you paid the rent, what you do at Best Buy is your business.

So let’s say your my next-door neighbor, and I come knocking saying I’m trying to collect $100,000 from people for a life-saving operation.

I have the operation, and you see me loading up the car to head out for a 6-month cruise. I tell you that after I paid for my $60,000 operation from the donated funds, I had $40,000 left over and I’m spending it in a world cruise.

You’d be OK with that?

 

[Lisa558]

Again, why do you think they’re using federal taxpayer dollars (a lot of which come from California) on illegals and not using those federal dollars for the citizens?

Because money is fungible, Mr. Pretzel.

CA is running a scam to inflate the Medicaid dollars they’re entitled to in order to have enough left over to pay for the illegals.

 

[Marener]

So let’s say your my next-door neighbor, and I come knocking saying I’m trying to collect $100,000 from people for a life-saving operation.

I have the operation, and you see me loading up the car to head out for a 6-month cruise. I tell you that after I paid for my $60,000 operation from the donated funds, I had $40,000 left over and I’m spending it in a world cruise.

You’d be OK with that?

Your analogy sucks.

First of all, it’s not charity. California is owed those Medicaid funds because of the statutory language of Medicaid. They’re not asking for a voluntary donation. They’re asking to be paid what they’re owed.

Second, those federal dollars come from California taxpayers. They’re getting their own money back.

Third, there’s no leftover federal funds when it comes to state Medicaid recipients who are citizens. California still foots much of the bill for their citizens because the federal money won’t cover them all. Then they foot the entire bill for illegal immigrants on their own.

Nice try, but your analogy completely fails to mirror the facts.

 

[Rambunctious]

California can spend their taxpayer dollars how they please.

Tell me why you think that federal money is going to the illegal aliens and not only going to the citizens?

An estimated 5 million illegals are on Medicaid... they get on it by going to the emergency room for minor reasons like a cold and then they claim they can't pay so the hospital gets them emergency Medicaid...
And they never go of it...

 

[Lisa558]

Your analogy sucks.

First of all, it’s not charity. California is owed those Medicaid funds because of the statutory language of Medicaid. They’re not asking for a voluntary donation. They’re asking to be paid what they’re owed.

Second, those federal dollars come from California taxpayers. They’re getting their own money back.

Third, there’s no leftover federal funds when it comes to state Medicaid recipients who are citizens. California still foots much of the bill for their citizens because the federal money won’t cover them all. Then they foot the entire bill for illegal immigrants on their own.

Nice try, but your analogy completely fails to mirror the facts.

The REASON there are leftover funds - and there are - is because CA is artificially inflating the amount we federal taxpayers owe them. Thus they have leftover for illegals.

Here’s the scam again:

 

[Marener]

The REASON there are leftover funds - and there are - is because CA is artificially inflating the amount we federal taxpayers owe them. Thus they have leftover for illegals.

Here’s the scam again:

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No, there’s no leftover funds. California FMAP is like 50%. Even with the inflated funding from the provider tax, it’s not enough federal money to cover citizens.

 

[Couchpotato]

Why would I be mad? As long as you paid the rent, what you do at Best Buy is your business.

yeah that’s bullshit.

On an unrelated note can you send me 1000 dollars for a flat screen tv errr I mean my rent?

 

[Marener]

yeah that’s bullshit.

On an unrelated note can you send me 1000 dollars for a flat screen tv errr I mean my rent?

You know that California pays taxes to the federal government? They’re just taking their money back.

 

[Lisa558]

No, there’s no leftover funds. California FMAP is like 50%. Even with the inflated funding from the provider tax, it’s not enough federal money to cover citizens.

By leftover, I mean the extra funds they’re getting from running their scam to inflate the Medicaid dollars they’re “owed.’

 

[Marener]

By leftover, I mean the extra funds they’re getting from running their scam to inflate the Medicaid dollars they’re “owed.’

And every single federal dollar goes to citizens and then some.

Just like all the other states that run the same exact scam.

 

[Nobody911]

Lol. Taco Trump is actually just a promoter, not the architect. And I don't think he knows the details of BBB.

The key architects behind the Medicaid reductions in Trump’s "Big Beautiful Bill" were primarily House Republican leaders and members of key committees responsible for health policy and budget. While the search results do not list a comprehensive roster of all individuals, several important names and roles emerge:

• House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) played a central role in pushing the bill through the House, urging minimal changes to the Senate’s version and rallying GOP votes despite internal opposition257.

• Members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and other committees overseeing Medicaid were instrumental in crafting the Medicaid provisions, as this committee typically handles health program legislation, although specific committee chair names are not mentioned in the search results.

• Moderate Republicans such as Rep. Don Bacon (Nebraska) voiced concerns about the steep Medicaid cuts, indicating internal GOP debate but also showing who was involved in the discussions1.

• Conservative Republicans like Rep. Ralph Norman (South Carolina) defended the Medicaid cuts as necessary fiscal measures, suggesting their involvement in shaping and supporting the policy8.

• On the Senate side, leaders like Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and Vice President JD Vance, who cast the tiebreaking vote, were key in advancing the bill with Medicaid cuts included5.

• Senators such as Thom Tillis (N.C.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.) expressed reservations about Medicaid cuts but were part of the legislative process shaping the final bill15.

In summary, the Medicaid reductions were designed and negotiated by a coalition of House GOP leadership (including Speaker Mike Johnson), key committee members, and Senate Republican leaders working to fund tax cuts and other priorities. While Trump promoted the bill, the detailed Medicaid provisions were primarily crafted by these congressional Republicans and their policy teams. Specific committee chairs and budget negotiators in the House Energy and Commerce and Budget Committees were central architects, though their exact names are not detailed in the search results.

Edit: the Medicaid cuts threaten to reduce or eliminate coverage for millions, jeopardize healthcare infrastructure—especially in rural areas—and curtail a broad range of services including hospital care, long-term care, pharmaceuticals, and preventive services. This would disproportionately impact low-income families, people with disabilities, seniors, and rural communities, leading to worse health outcomes and increased strain on the healthcare system.

sources:

1. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/politics/democrats-messaging-trump-big-beautiful-bill
2. Trump's big tax bill goes to the president for his signature
3. Republicans vulnerable to losing their seats after voting yes on Trump bill
4. House passes "big, beautiful bill," sending it to Trump's desk in 218-214 vote
5. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5450367/senate-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
6. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/nx-s1-5454841/house-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
7. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5383129-house-gop-big-beautiful-bill-trump/
8. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/g...dicaid-cut-in-trumps-bill-is-righting-a-wrong

 

[Couchpotato]

You know that California pays taxes to the federal government? They’re just taking their money back.

Irrelevant. All states pay taxes to the federal government that doesn’t entitle them to utilize federal monies illegally. If I defraud California of tax dollars and then use the defense “well I pay taxes here so….”

 

[Couchpotato]

Lol. Taco Trump is actually just a promoter, not the architect. And I don't think he knows the details of BBB.

View attachment 1132732

The key architects behind the Medicaid reductions in Trump’s "Big Beautiful Bill" were primarily House Republican leaders and members of key committees responsible for health policy and budget. While the search results do not list a comprehensive roster of all individuals, several important names and roles emerge:

• House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) played a central role in pushing the bill through the House, urging minimal changes to the Senate’s version and rallying GOP votes despite internal opposition257.

• Members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and other committees overseeing Medicaid were instrumental in crafting the Medicaid provisions, as this committee typically handles health program legislation, although specific committee chair names are not mentioned in the search results.

• Moderate Republicans such as Rep. Don Bacon (Nebraska) voiced concerns about the steep Medicaid cuts, indicating internal GOP debate but also showing who was involved in the discussions1.

• Conservative Republicans like Rep. Ralph Norman (South Carolina) defended the Medicaid cuts as necessary fiscal measures, suggesting their involvement in shaping and supporting the policy8.

• On the Senate side, leaders like Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and Vice President JD Vance, who cast the tiebreaking vote, were key in advancing the bill with Medicaid cuts included5.

• Senators such as Thom Tillis (N.C.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.) expressed reservations about Medicaid cuts but were part of the legislative process shaping the final bill15.

In summary, the Medicaid reductions were designed and negotiated by a coalition of House GOP leadership (including Speaker Mike Johnson), key committee members, and Senate Republican leaders working to fund tax cuts and other priorities. While Trump promoted the bill, the detailed Medicaid provisions were primarily crafted by these congressional Republicans and their policy teams. Specific committee chairs and budget negotiators in the House Energy and Commerce and Budget Committees were central architects, though their exact names are not detailed in the search results.

Edit: the Medicaid cuts threaten to reduce or eliminate coverage for millions, jeopardize healthcare infrastructure—especially in rural areas—and curtail a broad range of services including hospital care, long-term care, pharmaceuticals, and preventive services. This would disproportionately impact low-income families, people with disabilities, seniors, and rural communities, leading to worse health outcomes and increased strain on the healthcare system.

sources:

1. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/politics/democrats-messaging-trump-big-beautiful-bill
2. Trump's big tax bill goes to the president for his signature
3. Republicans vulnerable to losing their seats after voting yes on Trump bill
4. House passes "big, beautiful bill," sending it to Trump's desk in 218-214 vote
5. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5450367/senate-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
6. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/nx-s1-5454841/house-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
7. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5383129-house-gop-big-beautiful-bill-trump/
8. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/g...dicaid-cut-in-trumps-bill-is-righting-a-wrong

Lmao that you think any of them write the bills they submit.

 

[Marener]

Irrelevant. All states pay taxes to the federal government that doesn’t entitle them to utilize federal monies illegally. If I defraud California of tax dollars and then use the defense “well I pay taxes here so….”

But they aren’t using them fraudulently. They’re finding their state Medicaid program, and all that money is used for citizens.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You can still get it. You will just have to work or volunteer 80 hours/month or prove that you cannot.

.

When I was volunteering in a program for homeless women, they started demanding the 20 hours per week of volunteering for the able-bodied women, at the risk of losing their benefits. The sob stories they brought to the nurse, who had the power of excusing them from the requirement, were hilarious, and when they ran out of their excuses, you bet your ass they worked that 20 hours a week!


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[Billiejeens]

Your analogy sucks.

First of all, it’s not charity. California is owed those Medicaid funds because of the statutory language of Medicaid. They’re not asking for a voluntary donation. They’re asking to be paid what they’re owed.

Second, those federal dollars come from California taxpayers. They’re getting their own money back.

Third, there’s no leftover federal funds when it comes to state Medicaid recipients who are citizens. California still foots much of the bill for their citizens because the federal money won’t cover them all. Then they foot the entire bill for illegal immigrants on their own.

Nice try, but your analogy completely fails to mirror the facts.

You are insane.

 

[Billiejeens]

Lol. Taco Trump is actually just a promoter, not the architect. And I don't think he knows the details of BBB.

View attachment 1132732

The key architects behind the Medicaid reductions in Trump’s "Big Beautiful Bill" were primarily House Republican leaders and members of key committees responsible for health policy and budget. While the search results do not list a comprehensive roster of all individuals, several important names and roles emerge:

• House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) played a central role in pushing the bill through the House, urging minimal changes to the Senate’s version and rallying GOP votes despite internal opposition257.

• Members of the House Energy and Commerce Committee and other committees overseeing Medicaid were instrumental in crafting the Medicaid provisions, as this committee typically handles health program legislation, although specific committee chair names are not mentioned in the search results.

• Moderate Republicans such as Rep. Don Bacon (Nebraska) voiced concerns about the steep Medicaid cuts, indicating internal GOP debate but also showing who was involved in the discussions1.

• Conservative Republicans like Rep. Ralph Norman (South Carolina) defended the Medicaid cuts as necessary fiscal measures, suggesting their involvement in shaping and supporting the policy8.

• On the Senate side, leaders like Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) and Vice President JD Vance, who cast the tiebreaking vote, were key in advancing the bill with Medicaid cuts included5.

• Senators such as Thom Tillis (N.C.) and Josh Hawley (Mo.) expressed reservations about Medicaid cuts but were part of the legislative process shaping the final bill15.

In summary, the Medicaid reductions were designed and negotiated by a coalition of House GOP leadership (including Speaker Mike Johnson), key committee members, and Senate Republican leaders working to fund tax cuts and other priorities. While Trump promoted the bill, the detailed Medicaid provisions were primarily crafted by these congressional Republicans and their policy teams. Specific committee chairs and budget negotiators in the House Energy and Commerce and Budget Committees were central architects, though their exact names are not detailed in the search results.

Edit: the Medicaid cuts threaten to reduce or eliminate coverage for millions, jeopardize healthcare infrastructure—especially in rural areas—and curtail a broad range of services including hospital care, long-term care, pharmaceuticals, and preventive services. This would disproportionately impact low-income families, people with disabilities, seniors, and rural communities, leading to worse health outcomes and increased strain on the healthcare system.

sources:

1. https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/politics/democrats-messaging-trump-big-beautiful-bill
2. Trump's big tax bill goes to the president for his signature
3. Republicans vulnerable to losing their seats after voting yes on Trump bill
4. House passes "big, beautiful bill," sending it to Trump's desk in 218-214 vote
5. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/01/nx-s1-5450367/senate-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
6. https://www.npr.org/2025/07/03/nx-s1-5454841/house-republicans-trump-tax-bill-medicaid
7. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5383129-house-gop-big-beautiful-bill-trump/
8. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/g...dicaid-cut-in-trumps-bill-is-righting-a-wrong

You poor thing.