Trump was not friends with Epstein

I do not play "prove water is wet".

You know this already.
You can't make an accusation without evidence... or you just look like a liar... do you want to look like a liar?...
 
You can't make an accusation without evidence... or you just look like a liar... do you want to look like a liar?...
Watch some real news for a change. You do not need me to find what is common knowledge for you.

The water is indeed wet. Feel it for yourself.
 
Watch some real news for a change. You do not need me to find what is common knowledge for you.

The water is indeed wet. Feel it for yourself.
How many times has the MSM that you watch been caught lying or holding back stories and news they don't like... come on man...
 
How many times has the MSM that you watch been caught lying or holding back stories and news they don't like... come on man...
Cool deflection. Still not playing the game.
 
Regarding Trump, this is all going to turn out to be a big nothingburger. Many others who actually went to the island will get caught up in it. Maybe a conviction or three, but most will just be humiliated in the court of public opinion. That’s the logical prediction.
 
Regarding Trump, this is all going to turn out to be a big nothingburger. Many others who actually went to the island will get caught up in it. Maybe a conviction or three, but most will just be humiliated in the court of public opinion. That’s the logical prediction.
How do we know Trump never went to the island, if we can’t see the files? We can’t just take a suspect’s word for it.
 
How do we know Trump never went to the island, if we can’t see the files? We can’t just take a suspect’s word for it.
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Epstein's housekeeper....

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Now we know why Trump won't release the file... he is going to let the Clinton's perjure themselves... lol
 
Let it all out. If Trump is innocent, what’s the hold up. I’m not in a Clinton cult, can MAGA honestly say they aren’t?
Its either a national security issue at this point or Trump is giving the guilty enough rope to hang themselves under oath.... Trump is not guilty... if he were Biden and Harris would have released the file....
 
It’s either a national security issue at this point or Trump is giving the guilty enough rope to hang themselves under oath.... Trump is not guilty... if he were Biden and Harris would have released the file....
Biden and Harris aren’t Trump/MAGA. Quit making bullshit excuses. The files need to come out. If Trump isn’t guilty, what’s the hold up?
 
Biden and Harris aren’t Trump/MAGA. Quit making bullshit excuses. The files need to come out. If Trump isn’t guilty, what’s the hold up?
The DOJ is considering releasing the Maxwell interview... oh ooo here it comes dems... you begged for it...
 
How do we know Trump never went to the island, if we can’t see the files? We can’t just take a suspect’s word for it.
How do we know the files are true, even if we do see them? We can go down this rabbit hole until the cows come home. Truth be told, I don’t really care about the whole Epstein thing. A web of debauchery and blackmail that has zero effect on my life. Was his island under the jurisdiction of any country? If so, those laws apply.
 
Truth be told, I don’t really care about the whole Epstein thing. A web of debauchery and blackmail that has zero effect on my life. Was his island under the jurisdiction of any country? If so, those laws apply.

Do you care about politicians being blackmailed? Up to the highest levels? It does affect all of us when our government is not only thoroughly corrupt, but controlled, through sexual blackmail among other things.
 
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Regarding Trump, this is all going to turn out to be a big nothingburger. Many others who actually went to the island will get caught up in it. Maybe a conviction or three, but most will just be humiliated in the court of public opinion. That’s the logical prediction.


I agree!^^
 
There is no evidence he EVER clubbed around with Epstein. There are a very few, most Paparazzi generated, photos of the two of them at A-list events where they probably exchanged niceties as you do with people attending such events.

There is no evidence that Trump had anything whatsoever to do with Epstein after he banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago on or about 2004. That was years before Epstein's awful side was known to anybody who wasn't in Epstein's close inner circle which Trump was not.
They allegedly did hang out with each other at club parties in Manhattan where models were supplied there as eye candy...The kit Kat club was one, and the place he met Melania.

There is recorded audio of Epstein saying that the first time Melania and Trump had sex was on his Lolita Express plane...the audio was verified to be Epstein by voice experts when compared to the audio of Epstein giving a deposition previously.

I doubt Trump would have had sex with Melania on one of Epstein's planes, if they were not close Friends, nor tell Epstein about it....

Though there is the possibility Epstein was lying about this to Michael Wolff...who was recording their sessions for a future book.

Trump flew on Epstein's planes 7 times, but Epstein flew on Trump's plane 3 known & witnessed times....there could be more.

Epstein was invited to Marla Maples and Trump's wedding in 1993...there are pictures.

You are right that their friendship could have been simply running around in the same billionaire social circle....and crossing paths...but there are other things that point to it being much more than that Foxy!

Ex girlfriends of Epstein this past couple of weeks coming out telling their stories and how close Trump and Epstein were.

Epstein saying on tape, that he and Trump were best friends for the better of 10 years.

And Trump in 2002 interview saying he's known Epstein for 15 years, terrific guy, and he's a lot of FUN to hang out with...

“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York magazine in 2002. “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”


And then the birthday card letter the Wall Street Journal reported....With that strange little skit and ending comment.

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According to the Journal, the letter “contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker.”

“A pair of small arcs denotes the woman’s breasts, and the future president’s signature is a squiggly ‘Donald’ below her waist, mimicking pubic hair,” the Journal’s Khadeeja Safdar and Joe Palazzolo reported.

“The letter concludes: ‘Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret,’” they wrote.

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Trump claims he didn't draw or make the card/letter....BUT HE NEVER CLAIMED he didn't sign it?

There are reasons people question what exactly has gone on and is now going on with Trump and the way he is handling this Epstein situation with his administration in such a weird, and guilty appearing way....

By no means do I know what is being hid that Trump is so concerned about....but he is, with no doubt, worried about something coming out.
 
Do you care about politicians being blackmailed? Up to the highest levels? It does affect all of us when our government is not only thoroughly corrupt, but controlled, through sexual blackmail among other things.
Our government has been bought for ages. All one needs to do is look at how much money politicians have on the way in compared to how much they have on the way out. One of the things I like about Trump is the fact that he already had a boatload of money, making bribery a fool’s errand. Brings to mind when Elon told twitter advertisers to go **** themselves.
 
Our government has been bought for ages. All one needs to do is look at how much money politicians have on the way in compared to how much they have on the way out. One of the things I like about Trump is the fact that he already had a boatload of money, making bribery a fool’s errand. Brings to mind when Elon told twitter advertisers to go **** themselves.

I was talking about blackmail, not bribery. As for Trump, I agree that money is not the issue with him. But if you think they don't have dirt on him, I couldn't disagree more.

I'm not going to argue about it though. With all the time that has passed and everything that has happened, I think most people already have their mind made up about him, one way or the other. And since I don't believe anything incriminating is going to come out against him (not because it doesn't exist, but because I believe he's protected...in the same way Clinton was) it's kinda pointless to argue about it.
 
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