Trump was for it before he was against it.

[Superbadbrutha]

Congrats you're in the 25% of Americans still defending Biden. That % is sinking daily, guaranteed.

No I placing blame from Bush to Biden, understand now?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

we wouldn’t of left, they did accept the agreement and then broke it. xiden knew that. but tossed it

this agreement talk isn’t relevant since xiden didn’t follow it.

So we stay in Afghanistan from now on?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

i don’t know when it would have been good for us to leave. Obviously not at this moment and in this way

the army was there, they’ve been fighting for decades and dying. Xiden turned his back on them

So how many years should we keep training and equipping them to protect their own country? What exactly is our purpose in Afghanistan?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

yeah he did, he wanted out too…like all of us.

but he understood certain conditions must be in place. Xiden apparently didn’t understand or care.

not really sure what your point is about trump.

My point is Trump was going to do exactly what Biden just did and you would have been claiming that the Afghan people should be defending themselves.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Many Americans are loading up on weapons and ammunition because of the endless propaganda spewed by other people. There is most likely stories on anything Afghanistan including how much they were trained and how much they were not trained. On how much money got to them and how much did not and when it stopped. This is about how we left. Not that we left. And this is also about the Saul Alinsky endless rules for radicals agendas of the elites on the peasants of our nation and the world. On this issue and all others, Progs told us they know better. Biden around since Viet Nam and when we had little federal debt in many ways somehow order us to leave with Americans still there. This is either stupidity or another globalist agenda for some other reason.

How and when should we have left?

 

[Papageorgio]

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So he was against Biden delaying the exit until September 11. I was too but watching this debacle I think Trump and I were wrong, I think Biden has proven we should have delayed our exit until after Biden left office.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

So he was against Biden delaying the exit until September 11. I was too but watching this debacle I think Trump and I were wrong, I think Biden has proven we should have delayed our exit until after Biden left office.

No he was wanting to exit before 9/11 and the results wouldn't be any different if Trump was still in office.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

yeah, he ignored the Trump plan.

That included a date of May, AND the conditions...numerous conditions, clearly he extended the date because they weren't meeting the conditions....he then just cut and ran...cut and ran with no plan....leaving military equipment behind, our allies, and thousands of Afgans to suffer.

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Where did the Trump plan include a collapse of the Afghani govt and a takeover by the Taliban in less than two weeks?

 

[skookerasbil]

Im laughing.............

Anybody else take a close look a the C17 taking off from Kabul with people jumping on and running along side the "jet". Take another look..........its a fcuking balloon! Clear as day!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Biden is sending 6000 more because of his screw up.

You mean because the Afghani govt collapsed and the Taliban are retaking the country.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up with 15 or 20k there to provide security to escort evacuees to the airport in the coming months.

 

[struth]

Where did the Trump plan include a collapse of the Afghani govt and a takeover by the Taliban in less than two weeks?

um nowhere...that was all Xiden.

Had Xiden not tossed the Trump plan, ignored the experts and gone completely rogue, this wouldn't of happened.

 

[struth]

My point is Trump was going to do exactly what Biden just did and you would have been claiming that the Afghan people should be defending themselves.

but your point is totally incorrect, given what we know. Trump would not of done with Xiden did, because the conditions in the agreement were not being met by the Taliban.

Try again....

 

[struth]

So how many years should we keep training and equipping them to protect their own country? What exactly is our purpose in Afghanistan?

I have no idea how much longer it would have taken.

The purpose was to over throw the Taliban and those that give and gave aid and comfort to terrorist....and prevent such a thing again.

Now, it looks like Xiden just gave them all their homebase back...

 

[struth]

No I placing blame from Bush to Biden, understand now?

Not quite sure why you would do that...xiden is the only one that is responsible for what has happened now.

That's like blaming all the prior teams with a winning season, for the current losing record...,make zero sense.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

um nowhere...that was all Xiden.

Had Xiden not tossed the Trump plan, ignored the experts and gone completely rogue, this wouldn't of happened.

The degradation of the Afghani govt was well under way long before Biden. It was the weakness of the govt that gave the Taliban the ability to act successfully.

 

[Papageorgio]

No he was wanting to exit before 9/11 and the results wouldn't be any different if Trump was still in office.

Right, Trump was against delaying the pull out to September 11, he wanted the pull out to be in May. We have no idea how this would have gone done with Trump in office, can't imagine it being any worse than Biden. Trump didn't impress me and Biden doesn't either. It also seems that Biden doesn't like being questioned on his failures, much like Trump.

 

[struth]

The degradation of the Afghani govt was well under way long before Biden. It was the weakness of the govt that gave the Taliban the ability to act successfully.

Xiden didn't have to leave...he could have followed the advice of his experts and followed the Trump agreement.

but....Xiden, went rogue

 

[Dana7360]

It certainly contributes. The 25th Amendment can be invoked to dismiss a U.S. president, either temporarily or permanently, if they are "unable to discharge the powers and duties of [their] office." Clearly, a president with even tepid job approval ratings is obviously doing their job. No administration is going to use the 25th Amendment on a president with near 50% approval or higher other than temporarily for medical reasons.

The only reason why the republicans are taking about the 25th amendment is because the democrats talked about using it on trump.

 

[jknowgood]

You mean because the Afghani govt collapsed and the Taliban are retaking the country.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we end up with 15 or 20k there to provide security to escort evacuees to the airport in the coming months.

No, because he took 2500 soldiers out and closed our bases. Without removing the American citizens first. What a dummy. Even Germany said it was the biggest debacle in NATO's history. We are the laughing stock of the world. Even the taliban is openly mocking Biden.

 

[bendog]

The only reason why the republicans are taking about the 25th amendment is because the democrats talked about using it on trump.

And the only reason any of these Trump fellators are talking about Afghan is that Biden actually pulled out the troops that nobody gave a shit about before now.

But I guess Biden needed to announce months ago that Afghan was really not a good place for Americans. Who knew? But it does appear that Biden did not want to take heat from bringing in thousands of Afghans and their families who had helped us fight the Taliban. As "inelegant" as it is, that seems to be the fate of any group in a civil or revolutionary war. We left behind more Vietnamese that we got out, and what became of the montagnard .... well most of us didnt' really want those refugees either.