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Jubilation.

“Jubilation” was the word that FBI Special Agent Peter Dubrowski used in court Wednesday to describe how Proud Boys reacted in their private communications when former President Donald Trump told them to “stand back and stand by” during a presidential debate in 2020.

The upswell of joy, Dubrowski told prosecutors, came fast, and it was Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, the ringleader of the extremist group, who echoed Trump’s messaging to members in a Telegram chat that September.

“Guys...” Tarrio wrote. “Standby.”

Tarrio and fellow Proud Boys now on trial for seditious conspiracy, including Ethan Nordean, Joseph Biggs, Dominic Pezzola, and Zachary Rehl, have so far escaped the jury’s closer inspection of their communications leading up to and on the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

This week, after a stretch of lengthy expository and technical testimony delivered by an FBI digital forensic examiner, the time had finally come for the messages to start surfacing in earnest.

Dubrowski, a former criminal defense attorney who has been with the FBI for three years and specializes in counterintelligence and criminal conspiracies, analyzed a massive trove of Proud Boys messages that were obtained via search warrant. There were threads and chat groups set up by the hundreds across a variety of messaging apps like Signal, Facetime, and Zoom.

All told, Dubrowski said, the FBI reviewed more than a half million individual messages, throwing aside the mundane or irrelevant from those communications key to the investigation of the alleged conspiracy to stop the certification of the 2020 election by force.

In the fall of 2020, two chat groups started to overflow with discussions of a “stolen” election. There was the “Official Presidential Chat,” a group designated just for Proud Boy chapter presidents, which Dubrowski said contained roughly 60 participants. Talk there varied; there were chapter business discussions as often as there were discussions about family life or politics.

“It ran the scope,” Dubrowski testified.

The other chat was the “Skull and Bones” chat, a much smaller group that was focused expressly on “Proud Boys business,” the agent said, and membership there was only for “elders” of the self-proclaimed “Western chauvinist” group.

In September 2020, Proud Boys in the Official Presidents Chat, which included Tarrio, Nordean, Rehl, and other members like John Charles Stewart of Pennsylvania—who has pleaded guilty to charges already—reacted to the debate. Stewart, who went by the handle “Johnny Blackbeard” on Telegram, said the debate was a “bloodbath” and “cringe as fuck.”

Yet once Trump failed to condemn white supremacy when pressed by debate moderator Chris Wallace and then urged Proud Boys to “stand back and stand by” after then-presidential candidate Joe Biden pressed him to condemn the group specifically, the defendants erupted in glee.

It was an “immediate” reaction, Dubrowski told the jury.

“Jubilation,” he said.

Proud Boy Johnny Stewart gushed that an “impact has been made.”

“If your enemy is calling for you to stand down by name, there is a reason,” Stewart wrote.


(full article online)



 
Trumpster cultists and apologists will never change. But there is apparently still more information being revealed here that demonstrates once again that Trump’s efforts to stay in power after losing the 2020 election were conscious and treasonous.

Jan. 6th was just the last visible effort, seemingly ridiculous, but in fact part of a dangerous overall plan. The crazy, megalomaniacal Trump had help from plenty of people inside the system who wavered, as most Republicans do today, when they should have stood up and strongly opposed his “Big Lie” campaign, his open attempt to thwart the peaceful transfer of power.

Everybody of course is now trying to “cover their asses,” to protect their positions, to proclaim their patriotism. Worst of all is that many gullible fools still want Trump to run again — and will gladly vote for him if he does. They want to give this narcissistic lunatic yet another chance to bring the country to the very brink of civil war.
 




2/Executive privilege permits the president to keep communications made in support of official presidential decision-making confidential. The privilege applies to running the country, not to everything a person who happens to be POTUS does. The privilege isn’t absolute.




3/SCOTUS held executive privilege didn't excuse Nixon from turning over tapes made in the Oval Office that the special prosecutor subpoenaed. The Court gave preference to “fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of justice” over executive privilege.




4/There's no reason to believe the privilege would be interpreted differently here—since the law is settled, D.C. courts could rule swiftly & there's no reason for SCOTUS to hear the case. Trump also loses because the privilege belongs to the current president, Joe Biden.




https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance


5/But Biden has permitted disclosure of Trump administration materials to the 1-6 cmte because of the gravity of the events around the January 6 attack. There is no indication he would decide differently here. Trump’s strategy would just be one of delaying the inevitable.


https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance


6/The clock is ticking on Pence’s appearance before the grand jury. Complying with a federal grand jury subpoena isn't optional. The enforcement mechanisms are much stronger than a Congressional one. Pence can't just decide he won't show up.
 




2/Executive privilege permits the president to keep communications made in support of official presidential decision-making confidential. The privilege applies to running the country, not to everything a person who happens to be POTUS does. The privilege isn’t absolute.




3/SCOTUS held executive privilege didn't excuse Nixon from turning over tapes made in the Oval Office that the special prosecutor subpoenaed. The Court gave preference to “fundamental demands of due process of law in the fair administration of justice” over executive privilege.




4/There's no reason to believe the privilege would be interpreted differently here—since the law is settled, D.C. courts could rule swiftly & there's no reason for SCOTUS to hear the case. Trump also loses because the privilege belongs to the current president, Joe Biden.




https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance


5/But Biden has permitted disclosure of Trump administration materials to the 1-6 cmte because of the gravity of the events around the January 6 attack. There is no indication he would decide differently here. Trump’s strategy would just be one of delaying the inevitable.


https://twitter.com/JoyceWhiteVance


6/The clock is ticking on Pence’s appearance before the grand jury. Complying with a federal grand jury subpoena isn't optional. The enforcement mechanisms are much stronger than a Congressional one. Pence can't just decide he won't show up.


Executive privilege is also only available to the current executive. That's not Trump.
 

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