Trump Trade War Sticker Shock

[Mac-7]

How about we build economic alliances with our allies to compete globally?

You should have watched the video I posted

The Euros are sustaining their trade deficit with china by maintaining a deficit with America

So their actual alliance is with china not the US

 

[postman]

Then what? Manufacturing is a national security issue.

"Manufacturing" is a rather broad term, to be assigning it to be a matter of national security.

I'm sure the national security counsel isn't concerned whether or not we manufacture beanie babies.
But they would be concerned about manufacturing F-47's.

 

[postman]

How about we build economic alliances with our allies to compete globally?

The best way to compete with China is through trade partnerships, not declare a Trade War with every nation on earth

If every free country agreed not to buy or sell to China, their people would starve, and their economy would collapse.

Because as the idiom says, no man is an island

 

[leftwinger]

Maybe talk to the country you have an issue with. And use actual examples rather than made up figures. That sort of thing.

Too many, too much to cherry pick thru. Including your Euro union is abusing the US kindness.

• The United States imposes a 2.5% tariff on passenger vehicle imports (with internal combustion engines), while the European Union (10%) and India (70%) impose much higher duties on the same product.
• For networking switches and routers, the United States imposes a 0% tariff, but India (10-20%) levies higher rates.
• Brazil (18%) and Indonesia (30%) impose a higher tariff on ethanol than does the United States (2.5%).
• For rice in the husk, the U.S. imposes a tariff of 2.7%, while India (80%), Malaysia (40%), and Turkey (31%) impose higher rates.
• Apples enter the United States duty-free, but not so in Turkey (60.3%) and India (50%).

 

[rightwinger]

Selective tariffs can be effective
Cross the board global tariffs are idiocy

Anyone who advocates them is an IDIOT which means Trump is an idiot as are those who support him

 

[leftwinger]

If every free country agreed not to buy or sell to China, their people would starve, and their economy would collapse.

Because as the idiom says, no man is an island

Worry about the ghetto in BALT or $38T your boys have stolen. Then worry for the Chinese you dumb OX.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Its a lot isnt it. Tariffs are a tax on your own people.Blanket tariffs might save time in implementing but they are indiscriminate and hurt people that you might not want to hurt.
Its a testimony to trump stupidity.

/---/ Then why does the UK impose tariffs on its own people?

What tariffs does the UK impose on US goods? From jeans to steak

Trump has announced tariffs on imports to the US from the UK - but what goods travel the other way, and what tariffs do we charge?

www.thisismoney.co.uk

 

[postman]

You should have watched the video I posted

The Euros are sustaining their trade deficit with china by maintaining a deficit with America

So their actual alliance is with china not the US

How does the EU sustain one trade deficit with another trade deficit?

deficit with china
deficit with America

How do they balance out?

 

[leftwinger]

Selective tariffs can be effective
Cross the board global tariffs are idiocy

Anyone who advocates them is an IDIOT which means Trump is an idiot as are those who support him

• U.S. automakers face a variety of non-tariff barriers that impede access to the Japanese and Korean automotive markets, including non-acceptance of certain U.S. standards, duplicative testing and certification requirements, and transparency issues. Due to these non-reciprocal practices, the U.S. automotive industry loses out on an additional $13.5 billion in annual exports to Japan and access to a larger import market share in Korea—all while the U.S. trade deficit with Korea more than tripled from 2019 to 2024.

All can be removed overnight if offending countries adjust to balance.

 

[leftwinger]

Then just post how they're going to create jobs, when so many people in this country have been, or are going to be laid off because of DOGE.

So you want to keep paying do-nothing, no-show, fraud, duplicate, non-existent? We already have a Welfare class setup. Apperantly you idiots want to keep the secret GOVT Welfare class on-going at 10X?

Get off the boards you ignorant LW stooge.

 

[rightwinger]

• U.S. automakers face a variety of non-tariff barriers that impede access to the Japanese and Korean automotive markets, including non-acceptance of certain U.S. standards, duplicative testing and certification requirements, and transparency issues. Due to these non-reciprocal practices, the U.S. automotive industry loses out on an additional $13.5 billion in annual exports to Japan and access to a larger import market share in Korea—all while the U.S. trade deficit with Korea more than tripled from 2019 to 2024.

All can be removed overnight if offending countries adjust to balance.

A tariff on the automotive sector is a selective tariff that can be effective.

Problem is we live in a global economy and even “American made” cars have imported parts

That Toyota may be built in the US

 

[leftwinger]

A tariff on the automotive sector is a selective tariff that can be effective.

Problem is we live in a global economy and even “American made” cars have imported parts

That Toyota may be built in the US

Its complicate with hidden import tricks and gimmicks on USA products (a lot more than car parts).

Bottom line:

THE GOLDEN RULE FOR OUR GOLDEN AGE: Today’s action simply asks other countries to treat us like we treat them. It’s the Golden Rule for Our Golden Age.

• Access to the American market is a privilege, not a right.
• The United States will no longer put itself last on matters of international trade in exchange for empty promises.
• Reciprocal tariffs are a big part of why Americans voted for President Trump—it was a cornerstone of his campaign from the start.
  • Everyone knew he’d push for them once he got back in office; it’s exactly what he promised, and it’s a key reason he won the election.
• These tariffs are central to President Trump’s plan to reverse the economic damage left by President Biden and put America on a path to a new golden age.
  • This builds on his broader economic agenda of energy competitiveness, tax cuts, no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security benefits, and deregulation to boost American prosperity.

 

[rightwinger]

So you want to keep paying do-nothing, no-show, fraud, duplicate, non-existent?

Another drinking Trump Kool Aid that everyone fired was in a do-nothing, no show job

VA takes care of our veterans
Social Security pays our retirees
FDA keeps food and drugs safe
FAA keeps our airways safe

You can’t arbitrarily fire thousands and claim there is no impact

 

[Cellblock2429]

A tariff on the automotive sector is a selective tariff that can be effective.

Problem is we live in a global economy and even “American made” cars have imported parts

That Toyota may be built in the US

/---/ And we need to make those parts in the Good Old USA, just like it was until the mid 1970s.

Made in America: A Manufacturing Journey | The Henry Ford​

There were more than 10,000 parts in a Model T. Henry Ford's moving assembly line required that each one of those parts be manufactured to exacting tolerances and be fully interchangeable with any other of its kind. By splitting a car's construction into a series of distinct small steps, the assembly line yielded...

 

[leftwinger]

Another drinking Trump Kool Aid that everyone fired was in a do-nothing, no show job

VA takes care of our veterans
Social Security pays our retirees
FDA keeps food and drugs safe
FAA keeps our airways safe

You can’t arbitrarily fire thousands and claim there is no impact

Keep the good, out with the bad. Simple. $38T went somewhere. One consultant part-time software guy discovered being paid $250k per hour or some BS.

It was voided and moved to an existing full-time guy. Needed 10 min per month to do the job.

You GOVT people just want to keep it going? Maddening! Does not happen in private business at GOVT levels of waste, theft, fraud, abuse, guaranteed.

 

[rightwinger]

/---/ And we need to make those parts in the Good Old USA, just like it was until the mid 1970s.

Made in America: A Manufacturing Journey | The Henry Ford​

There were more than 10,000 parts in a Model T. Henry Ford's moving assembly line required that each one of those parts be manufactured to exacting tolerances and be fully interchangeable with any other of its kind. By splitting a car's construction into a series of distinct small steps, the assembly line yielded...

The world has changed since 1970
We reside in a global economy with products interchanged back and forth.

We can no longer just take our ball and go home. We need to buy and sell freely

 

[leftwinger]

Late 70s’ early 80s’ USA cars were junk. They improved since greatly. But still saddled with union costs and lack of foreign markets. It is a dirty game.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The world has changed since 1970
We reside in a global economy with products interchanged back and forth.

We can no longer just take our ball and go home. We need to buy and sell freely

/----/ We can and should be 100% self sufficent. What's wrong with that?

 

[leftwinger]

Another drinking Trump Kool Aid that everyone fired was in a do-nothing, no show job

VA takes care of our veterans
Social Security pays our retirees
FDA keeps food and drugs safe
FAA keeps our airways safe

You can’t arbitrarily fire thousands and claim there is no impact

We can eliminate entire departments like USAID or Dept of ED with positive impact. Probably ten more could go un-noticed. Then trim the rest. At $38T the luxurious no value added GOVT BS must go. May be too late already. Bureau of indian affairs my butt.

 

[postman]

Worry about the ghetto in BALT or $38T your boys have stolen. Then worry for the Chinese you dumb OX.

We could get together, and guarantee China doesn't become the worlds largest economy. If the major economies of the world stopped buying Chinese goods, they would implode.