Trump threatens to send national guard to control blacks in Minneapolis

[pknopp]

"if you speak up and you're not heard, you might scream. if you scream and you're not heard, you might throw something...and it goes from there, and its justifiable" - Van Jones

No, no excuses.

Being a thug, is never acceptable.

And you know this, if you were on the receiving end.

If my neighbor is shot by police without any reason or something, I'd be mad about it.

Does that mean I can go throw a rock through your window, and hit your daughter in the head sending her to the hospital, and then set your house on fire because.....

Well I spoke up and was not heard, I screamed and was not heard, and so I tossed a rock and from there and it is justifiable! Power to the people!

Would you accept that? Daughters in the hospital with a cracked skull from my rock, and your house is burnt down?

See that is universally how left-wingers think. You can justify anything you want, as long as it doesn't apply to you. Problem is, it's never you. You brutalize and damage everyone around you, but if it was ever yourself being harmed, you'd freak out. You would never tolerate someone using your own justifications, to allow yourself to be brutalized.

This is why every socialist country ends up in chaos and ruins. Once you justify harming others in the name of your speech or demands, you can kill anyone for anything, and that same justifications will be used against you.

Again, Caracas, murder capital of the world in Socialist Venezuela.... oh but they are being heard are they not?!

No, garbage ideology.

And by the way, being heard, doesn't mean you are right, or that anyone is going to listen when you are wrong.

Many protests, are protests against what is actually good and right. The protesters shouldn't get what they want, because they are evil and wrong.

One can also note that it isnt you and your loved ones getting killed.

That the same for the looters. They don't know this guy. They never met him. They were not married to his sister or something.

You think all those looters, or even a significant number, were direct relatives of this guy? Really? Is that your argument now?

Grow up.

Many have the same traits and run the risk of being next.

 

[pknopp]

Democrats are weak leaders. Blacks vote for democrats fake compassion for them.. in return democrats destroy their lives

Democrats have been mayors in Minneapolis for eons, and tramp himself said it was a "Great City"

it’s a paradise for black refugees and a total fucking shithole… You and I both know that we also both know that Trump meant that in jest.

The excuse always is "he was joking" when he says something stupid. One might think one would learn to quit saying stupid things.

 

[basquebromance]

the dregs of society are the ones who end up being police officers, unfortunately

 

[basquebromance]

racism is a public health crisis, my friends

 

[Mr Natural]

C’mon Trumpy, I dare ya, I double dog dare ya!

 

[basquebromance]

Given his own experience with an out-of-control FBI and unfair investigations… Trump knows how poisonous an out-of-control law enforcement process can be

 

[basquebromance]

I think you can be for law enforcement, you can be for safe cities, for community policing and support the men in blue...and be against what you saw in that video with what happened to Floyd

Trump's responses have thus far been heartfelt, off-the-cuff and without notes, unlike Biden. These weren’t prepared statements, this was President Donald Trump talking directly from his heart about what he saw

 

[Andylusion]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

President Trump is frustrated with the looting and rioting following the Minnesota riots.

The people of that city have a right to be upset but unrestricted looting, burning and rioting cannot be permitted. Let the system work.

Send the bill for all the damage to the family of the cop who started it all.

It hasn't been working. Breonna Taylor is dead. Shot eight times. Who has been held responsible?

Woman shot and killed by Kentucky police in botched raid, family says

Louisville police officers forced their way inside and "blindly fired," killing Breonna Taylor, according to a lawsuit.

www.nbcnews.com

No one, and no should be.

None of that was the fault of any officer.

The fault lies in the system. They had a no-knock search warrant, which meant police could rush into a house without warning.

The people in the house thought they were being attacked by criminals, and fired a shot at an officer. The officer in fear for their lives fired back and killed Taylor.

I've never heard of no-knock search warrants, and they should be eliminated completely. That's a terrible idea, that will get people killed.

The system needs changed.

This has happened in the past. People have been demanding that no knock warrants end......but here we are....left with violence to get the message across.

P.S. the cops also were caught lying about the facts. That should be an automatic termination.

Right, but you are attacking the wrong people. The police are not the ones at fault for no-knock warrants.

Complain to your state governments.

That 30 year old, trying to do some good in the world, given a warrant, and told to go raid a house... he's simply doing his job.

He's got a wife and kids at home, he's got bills to pay, and he's paid to execute a warrant. Why are you attacking him?

Attack the people who created the system. Demand they change it.

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.

Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home

If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

That's very interesting. But as long as no-knock warrants exist, people will get shot. Let's deal with that.

Personally, if someone is kicking in my door at 3AM, I'm not asking questions first. There's going to be a whole lotta shooting.
This whole "no-knock" business is just another way of saying: "presumed guilty without a trial." Gotta get that bust.

Then the solution to continue their drug trade and keep getting away with it is flushing the stuff down the toilet. That's why they rush these places that do sell drugs. Of course pot may be difficult to accomplish that, but you can flush a hell of a lot of crack or cocaine down the toilet or even the bathtub drain while you stall the cops.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

How has society done that? Everybody has access to paid for primary eduction. Everybody can go to college if they are the right material, or go to trade school. Everybody can avoid having children that will keep you in poverty if you don't make very good money. Everybody has a choice.

 

[bripat9643]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

 

[Andylusion]

President Trump is frustrated with the looting and rioting following the Minnesota riots.

The people of that city have a right to be upset but unrestricted looting, burning and rioting cannot be permitted. Let the system work.

Send the bill for all the damage to the family of the cop who started it all.

It hasn't been working. Breonna Taylor is dead. Shot eight times. Who has been held responsible?

Woman shot and killed by Kentucky police in botched raid, family says

Louisville police officers forced their way inside and "blindly fired," killing Breonna Taylor, according to a lawsuit.

www.nbcnews.com

No one, and no should be.

None of that was the fault of any officer.

The fault lies in the system. They had a no-knock search warrant, which meant police could rush into a house without warning.

The people in the house thought they were being attacked by criminals, and fired a shot at an officer. The officer in fear for their lives fired back and killed Taylor.

I've never heard of no-knock search warrants, and they should be eliminated completely. That's a terrible idea, that will get people killed.

The system needs changed.

This has happened in the past. People have been demanding that no knock warrants end......but here we are....left with violence to get the message across.

P.S. the cops also were caught lying about the facts. That should be an automatic termination.

Right, but you are attacking the wrong people. The police are not the ones at fault for no-knock warrants.

Complain to your state governments.

That 30 year old, trying to do some good in the world, given a warrant, and told to go raid a house... he's simply doing his job.

He's got a wife and kids at home, he's got bills to pay, and he's paid to execute a warrant. Why are you attacking him?

Attack the people who created the system. Demand they change it.

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.

Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home

If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

That's very interesting. But as long as no-knock warrants exist, people will get shot. Let's deal with that.

Personally, if someone is kicking in my door at 3AM, I'm not asking questions first. There's going to be a whole lotta shooting.
This whole "no-knock" business is just another way of saying: "presumed guilty without a trial." Gotta get that bust.

Then the solution to continue their drug trade and keep getting away with it is flushing the stuff down the toilet. That's why they rush these places that do sell drugs. Of course pot may be difficult to accomplish that, but you can flush a hell of a lot of crack or cocaine down the toilet or even the bathtub drain while you stall the cops.

Yeah, I get that.... I think the solution is to kill dealers.

When you catch someone dealing drugs, kill them. Death penalty.

And then we don't have to do raids. We can catch them transporting the stuff, or send an undercover narc to get buy the stuff, and then just electric chair the guy.

Then no more raids. No need for that.

 

[Andylusion]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(19)30128-8/fulltext

Between 2008 and 2017, the overall number of prescription opioid users nearly doubled from 4109 per 100 000 inhabitants to 7489 per 100 000 inhabitants

In the same period, the number of opioid-related hospital admissions tripled from 2·5 to 7·8 per 100 000 inhabitants, and between 2008 and 2015 the number of patients in addiction care for opioid use disorders other than heroin increased from 3·1 to 5·6 per 100 000 inhabitants.

By the way, your link posted that pot convictions declined in those states. Well, yes... because you legalized it.

What about other crimes, that have increased in relation to pot usage?

Colorado governor won't rule out banning marijuana again. Here's why | CNN

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper has two facts in front of him: Since 2014 crime has been rising in his state, outstripping the national trend, and since 2014 recreational use of marijuana has been legal.

www.cnn.com

Now again. You have a different opinion, and that's fine. We agree to disagree. This is just two examples, of dozens I've read from the US and around the world, that legalization has not been all that it was supposed to be.

Just my opinion based on the evidence I've read.

 

[basquebromance]

Brutal, inexcusable, horrifying and senseless.

ENOUGH!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

President Trump is frustrated with the looting and rioting following the Minnesota riots.

Radical left mayor? Trump is a total ass. Unfit, unhinged, a total disgrace.

he looks pretty radical left wing to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob_Frey​

​

Frey has been active in community organizing since moving to Minneapolis. After a tornado struck North Minneapolis in 2011, Frey provided legal services to tenants who lost their homes. In 2012, before running for elected office, Frey founded and organized the first Big Gay Race, a 5K charity race to raise money for Minnesotans United for All Families, a political group organizing for marriage equality.[11]​

​

Minneapolis City Council​

​

Frey ran in the 2013 Minneapolis City Council election to represent Ward 3. He received the Democratic–Farmer–Labor endorsement, as well as endorsements from over 40 elected officials and organizations.[12] Frey's platform promised better constituent services,[12] to spur residential development,[12] increase the number and variety of small and local businesses, and push for full funding of affordable housing and address climate change. He defeated incumbent Diane Hofstede with over 60% of the vote and took office on January 2, 2014.​

Anybody who actually believes in the concept of "freedom, equality and justice for all" is a radical leftist in your eyes. In fact, he would be considered a Conservative by Canadian standards, and by the standards of any other first world nation.

Only in a radically right wing, racist nation, would such concepts be considered "leftist", in any way shape or form. A failure to provide affordable housing for all, and addressing climate change are at the root of homelessness, massive wild fires, flooding, and extreme weather.

How many trillions of dollars in losses has the USA already suffered because of the refusal of conservatives to acknowledge the science or even admit the problem is manmade?

Ridiculous. First of all, nobody has any proof of MMGW. It's simply a theory. We dump trillions every year to fight this concept and have been doing it for decades now. It's been going on since I was a kid, and still going on today. In spite of the trillions we've already spent, you people are angrier now than you were 50 years ago.

In other words, there isn't enough money in the world yet alone our country to fight this myth of global warming. Don't criticize the US when China is doing virtually nothing.

Actually, the ONLY scientists who don't believe in global warming are those who are being paid by the fossil fuel industry. America is built on the fossil fuel industry, and China is doing far more to reduce fossil fuel useage than the Republican governments in Washington.

You need to fact check you "trillions of dollars line" because that's a total fallacy. If people are angrier about global warming now than they were 50 years ago its because we've known this was going on for 50 years and done NOTHING to prevent it from happening. California wild fires destroyed billions of dollars worth of property. As did Hurricane Harvey, and the floods in the Mid-West last year, and the tornados this year. Every year, it's a new "Storm of the Century", with record winds/rains/temperatures.

When I was a kid, named tropical storms never got past the letter M, now they're into their second trip through the alphabet every year. We used to go sledding on the local hills all winter long. For my grandchildren, a good number of them have never been out toboganning or sledding because we no longer have enough snow to make it possible. I can ride my bicycle pretty much all winter and I do.

American have lost far more money than they've ever spent on their failure to act, just like the failure to act on the corona virus has cratered your economy and will continue to cost your economy, until you protect your PEOPLE from the illness and death of this disease.

People not coorporations.

No one has any proof of Einstein's theory of Relativity, but they used it to create GPS.

The scientists who are behind global warming get their paychecks from government and colleges, and colleges get their money from the government too. You know what they support.

Absolutely zero evidence that MMGW is causing more hurricanes, more fires, more anything. These politicians know they are all FOS, that's why DumBama's first home after leaving the White House is on the ocean. He knows it's not going to flood his home during his lifetime, or his children's or grandchildren. He just sits back and laughs about it while he enjoys a cigarette on the back porch swing.

Let me ask: If I said I will pay you to make more hurricanes, would you be able to do it? If so, how?

Global warming is a bottomless money pit. There isn't enough money to fill it. They switched from global warming to climate change for a reason. That reason is warming has been proving to be BS, and the climate has been changing on this planet since God created it.

NASA - Top Story - NASA STUDY FINDS INCREASING SOLAR TREND THAT CAN CHANGE CLIMATE - March 20, 2003

You ask, I provide. November 2nd, 1922. Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.

Roger Carr recently wrote in comments: HELP WANTED: I am trying to purchase (or plunder) a full copy of this story, mentioned here on this forum: A Washington, D.C. resident John Lockwood was condu…

wattsupwiththat.com

Report: 95 percent of global warming models are wrong

Former NASA scientist Dr. Roy Spencer estimates that 95 percent of climate models predicting global temperature rises have been wrong.

dailycaller.com

 

[Arresmillao]

President Trump is frustrated with the looting and rioting following the Minnesota riots.

What are the chances, these cops (murderers) are trump cult followers? I would say near 100%...

 

[pknopp]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(19)30128-8/fulltext

Between 2008 and 2017, the overall number of prescription opioid users nearly doubled from 4109 per 100 000 inhabitants to 7489 per 100 000 inhabitants

In the same period, the number of opioid-related hospital admissions tripled from 2·5 to 7·8 per 100 000 inhabitants, and between 2008 and 2015 the number of patients in addiction care for opioid use disorders other than heroin increased from 3·1 to 5·6 per 100 000 inhabitants.

By the way, your link posted that pot convictions declined in those states. Well, yes... because you legalized it.

What about other crimes, that have increased in relation to pot usage?

Colorado governor won't rule out banning marijuana again. Here's why | CNN

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper has two facts in front of him: Since 2014 crime has been rising in his state, outstripping the national trend, and since 2014 recreational use of marijuana has been legal.

www.cnn.com

View attachment 342633

Now again. You have a different opinion, and that's fine. We agree to disagree. This is just two examples, of dozens I've read from the US and around the world, that legalization has not been all that it was supposed to be.

Just my opinion based on the evidence I've read.

Man, that's a lot of doctors getting executed.

 

[Andylusion]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(19)30128-8/fulltext

Between 2008 and 2017, the overall number of prescription opioid users nearly doubled from 4109 per 100 000 inhabitants to 7489 per 100 000 inhabitants

In the same period, the number of opioid-related hospital admissions tripled from 2·5 to 7·8 per 100 000 inhabitants, and between 2008 and 2015 the number of patients in addiction care for opioid use disorders other than heroin increased from 3·1 to 5·6 per 100 000 inhabitants.

By the way, your link posted that pot convictions declined in those states. Well, yes... because you legalized it.

What about other crimes, that have increased in relation to pot usage?

Colorado governor won't rule out banning marijuana again. Here's why | CNN

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper has two facts in front of him: Since 2014 crime has been rising in his state, outstripping the national trend, and since 2014 recreational use of marijuana has been legal.

www.cnn.com

View attachment 342633

Now again. You have a different opinion, and that's fine. We agree to disagree. This is just two examples, of dozens I've read from the US and around the world, that legalization has not been all that it was supposed to be.

Just my opinion based on the evidence I've read.

Man, that's a lot of doctors getting executed.

Well to all the people that have some sort of a functioning brain.... they all assumed that obviously I'm talking about illicit narcotic sales. To further cement the prior statement about having a brain... doctors don't sell drugs. They write prescriptions, but the drug story, and pharma company, sell the drugs. So, it wouldn't affect doctors anyway.... but people with any intelligence already knew that,

I spelled that out for you, since clearly you are not part of the previous group.

 

[pknopp]

Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(19)30128-8/fulltext

Between 2008 and 2017, the overall number of prescription opioid users nearly doubled from 4109 per 100 000 inhabitants to 7489 per 100 000 inhabitants

In the same period, the number of opioid-related hospital admissions tripled from 2·5 to 7·8 per 100 000 inhabitants, and between 2008 and 2015 the number of patients in addiction care for opioid use disorders other than heroin increased from 3·1 to 5·6 per 100 000 inhabitants.

By the way, your link posted that pot convictions declined in those states. Well, yes... because you legalized it.

What about other crimes, that have increased in relation to pot usage?

Colorado governor won't rule out banning marijuana again. Here's why | CNN

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper has two facts in front of him: Since 2014 crime has been rising in his state, outstripping the national trend, and since 2014 recreational use of marijuana has been legal.

www.cnn.com

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Now again. You have a different opinion, and that's fine. We agree to disagree. This is just two examples, of dozens I've read from the US and around the world, that legalization has not been all that it was supposed to be.

Just my opinion based on the evidence I've read.

Man, that's a lot of doctors getting executed.

Well to all the people that have some sort of a functioning brain.... they all assumed that obviously I'm talking about illicit narcotic sales.

I spelled that out for you, since clearly you are not part of the previous group.

Why do you feel a need to make a distinction? We know there were many doctors that were little more than pill mills.

Watch the "Pharmacist".

 

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Postal inspector said the cops lied to obtain the warrant.
Louisville postal inspector contradicts key police claim that led to no-knock warrant at Breonna Taylor’s home
If so, there needs to be charges filed against the officers that lied.

Thanks for bringing this story to my attention. Sure looks like another case of police over reach leading to criminal manslaughter. An unarmed woman was shot dead eight times and there weren't even any drugs in the house? And if there was? WTF! Is some grass or pills really worth dying over much less killing over?

What troubles me is that many blacks have been forced into a life of crime because our society gives them no better way of living. Then the police are sent out in death squads to annihilate the "problem." Our prisons are filled with the "solution."

No-knock warrants are almost always used for drug busts, which is another reason to oppose the insane war on people who use unpopular drugs.

I disagree. I can't think of a single country that has embraced drug culture, and ended up with good results. Australia, Mexico, Argentina, Uruguay, Croatia, Czech, Netherlands.... all the countries have not have good results from legalization.

From the Netherlands, there was a massive increase in crime, related to drugs, since decriminalization, resulting in numerous revisions to the law, to take the problem.

Even so, over dose deaths have continued to increase, since 2010.

I am no longer in favor of decriminizaiton. If anything, I believe in full death penalty for drug trafficking. Every single person who illegally sells an illegal drug, should be automatically on death row, and executed within 2 years.

That's total horseshit. The evidence shows precisely the opposite:

The Social Impact of Cannabis Legalization in the United States

Drug decriminalisation in Portugal: setting the record straight. - Transform Drug Policy Foundation

America, Take Note: Three Lessons the Netherlands Learned After Decades of Evolving Its Drug Policy

You're obviously a drug warrior. They always lie.

We've been on the same side of issues hundreds of times. You know me. You know I don't lie.

Hey, it's my opinion based on the evidence.

Post some evidence then.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanpub/article/PIIS2468-2667(19)30128-8/fulltext

Between 2008 and 2017, the overall number of prescription opioid users nearly doubled from 4109 per 100 000 inhabitants to 7489 per 100 000 inhabitants

In the same period, the number of opioid-related hospital admissions tripled from 2·5 to 7·8 per 100 000 inhabitants, and between 2008 and 2015 the number of patients in addiction care for opioid use disorders other than heroin increased from 3·1 to 5·6 per 100 000 inhabitants.

By the way, your link posted that pot convictions declined in those states. Well, yes... because you legalized it.

What about other crimes, that have increased in relation to pot usage?

Colorado governor won't rule out banning marijuana again. Here's why | CNN

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper has two facts in front of him: Since 2014 crime has been rising in his state, outstripping the national trend, and since 2014 recreational use of marijuana has been legal.

www.cnn.com

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Now again. You have a different opinion, and that's fine. We agree to disagree. This is just two examples, of dozens I've read from the US and around the world, that legalization has not been all that it was supposed to be.

Just my opinion based on the evidence I've read.

What does opioid abuse have to do with legal marijuana? The former is still against the law. You also have not demonstrated that the overal crime rate is connected to marijuana legalization. However, it's clear that not destroying people's lives because they smoked a harmless weed is a good thing.