Trump threatens European Union

[JakeStarkey]

The president of the European Union Council, Donald Tusk, warned the heads of governments from all the European Union (EU) states (except England) that newly elected U.S. President Trump represents a danger to the EU because he encouraged Britain to leave the union while encouraging other states of the EU to also leave.
It is reported on the front page of THE TIMES today that President Tusk sees a danger in the nationalism which is sweeping the world with Donald Trump's slogan of America First, England wanting out of the EU and political parties in France, Austria, Hungary, Poland, and the Netherlands, sounding racist.

President Tusk says that individual countries outside of the EU will find themselves subject to exploitation by the three powers of the USA, Russia, and China. Now, more than ever, European states of the Union need to keep focused on the European ideal of an ever closer political union so that the EU will hold its own against the Americans, the Russians, and the Chinese.

I believe President Tusk is right and it is sad to see the United States being perceived as a malevolent influence over Europe when we were so close after World War II but the corollary to America First, NATO being obsolete, and the breakup of the EU are all messages from Donald Trump. So long, it's been good to know you.

Donald Tusk -- President of the European Council

Great news, thanks!
Great news keeps pouring in, best 2 weeks America has had since Japan surrendered.

In the minds of the deluded, sure.

 

[NoNukes]

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The article that i read said Asian men. Guess it depends which article you read. It they were from period starting in 1997 and it was not just about rape. His story of thousands of rapes by Muslims holds no water.

"Asian" in the British press is Pakistani, you ignorant Sorosazi.

This ignorant statement makes you smart?

???

You made another ignorant post, due to the fact that you have no brain and only post hate memes from the Soros sites.

I corrected the meme you posted, since it was highly dishonest as presented.

Look, you're a leftist, lying is what you do, but you do need to be called on the hate filled lies you spew....

I have never been to a Soros sight. You are obviously close to an idiot.

You don't know the difference between site and sight and call HIM the idiot?


Oh, that's rich.

A spelling error does not make one an idiot. Spreading fake news might.

 

[NoNukes]

What's destroying the EU is the massive islamic immigration.

The far right is more of a danger to Europe

You should try telling that to the thousands of British children who have been gang raped by Muslim men who call them "easy meat".

Now there is an opinion without absolutely no evidence.

Hint; Christian and Jewish rape children all the time.

This is an LEO problem, not a religious issue.

Look at all of the White Christian male serial killers who MURDER women. Would you suggest this is typical of White Christian men?

 

[JakeStarkey]

What's destroying the EU is the massive islamic immigration.

The far right is more of a danger to Europe

You should try telling that to the thousands of British children who have been gang raped by Muslim men who call them "easy meat".

Now there is an opinion without absolutely no evidence.

Hint; Christian and Jewish rape children all the time.

This is an LEO problem, not a religious issue.

Look at all of the White Christian male serial killers who MURDER women. Would you suggest this is typical of White Christian men?

Excellent example. So now we have race enter the issue. Do Asian and African males rape and kill children?

 

[Tilly]

You should try telling that to the thousands of British children who have been gang raped by Muslim men who call them "easy meat".

I live in Ireland and have never heard of these thousands of rapes. Quit spreading fake news.

If you live in Ireland and you haven't heard of the Islamic paedo rings (Rotherham ring a bell?), you are either lying or you live under a rock.

That was mostly Asian men.

They were nearly all Pakistani Muslim men.

The article that i read said Asian men. Guess it depends which article you read. It they were from period starting in 1997 and it was not just about rape. His story of thousands of rapes by Muslims holds no water.

Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court as they are jailed for 80 years for abusing girls, including one who became pregnant at just 12, after being groomed with alcohol and drugs

...The sentencing marks the end of a series of three major trials after a report on child sexual exploitation in Rotherham revealed that more than 1,400 youngsters had been groomed, trafficked and raped in the town over a 16-year period...

Read more: Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court | Daily Mail Online
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[Dogmaphobe]

I live in Ireland and have never heard of these thousands of rapes. Quit spreading fake news.

If you live in Ireland and you haven't heard of the Islamic paedo rings (Rotherham ring a bell?), you are either lying or you live under a rock.

That was mostly Asian men.

They were nearly all Pakistani Muslim men.

The article that i read said Asian men. Guess it depends which article you read. It they were from period starting in 1997 and it was not just about rape. His story of thousands of rapes by Muslims holds no water.

Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court as they are jailed for 80 years for abusing girls, including one who became pregnant at just 12, after being groomed with alcohol and drugs

...The sentencing marks the end of a series of three major trials after a report on child sexual exploitation in Rotherham revealed that more than 1,400 youngsters had been groomed, trafficked and raped in the town over a 16-year period...

Read more: Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

I find it amazing that anybody could be SO stupid, and SO cult-like as to actually claim this is all "fake news".

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia

Honestly, what kind of uneducated moron would think that calling these Muslims "Asian" somehow means they weren't Muslim?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

A spelling error does not make one an idiot. Spreading fake news might.

That is just one of the MANY examples of your idiocy. You have absolutely no cognitive function and simply parrot the attitudes you have been conditioned to parrot. Even when proof is brought forward that the world is round, you simply continue with your childish insistence that it is really flat.

 

[Tilly]

If you live in Ireland and you haven't heard of the Islamic paedo rings (Rotherham ring a bell?), you are either lying or you live under a rock.

That was mostly Asian men.

They were nearly all Pakistani Muslim men.

The article that i read said Asian men. Guess it depends which article you read. It they were from period starting in 1997 and it was not just about rape. His story of thousands of rapes by Muslims holds no water.

Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court as they are jailed for 80 years for abusing girls, including one who became pregnant at just 12, after being groomed with alcohol and drugs

...The sentencing marks the end of a series of three major trials after a report on child sexual exploitation in Rotherham revealed that more than 1,400 youngsters had been groomed, trafficked and raped in the town over a 16-year period...

Read more: Rotherham child sex gang shout 'Allahu Akbar' in court | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

I find it amazing that anybody could be SO stupid, and SO cult-like as to actually claim this is all "fake news".

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia

Honestly, what kind of uneducated moron would think that calling these Muslims "Asian" somehow means they weren't Muslim?

Exactly. And a mod is agreeing with his nonsnense. I guess the court cases were fake too. SMH.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Exactly. And a mod is agreeing with his nonsnense. I guess the court cases were fake too. SMH.

He appears to be quite pliable, you know.

 

[Eloy]

I think Americans believe their country will last a thousand years.
I agree with you about the danger of the far right to Europe. We remember when they fascists held a grip over the continent during the last century and how it led to internecine deaths and horrors. The European Union was established to ensure that this does not happen again and it is working. No more are European Union countries solving differences with wars but instead debate in a parliament how best to cooperate for the common good. Nationalism which threatens a breakup from within would be a catastrophe.

You've got to love this method of argument -- "The EU is so great, now Trump is ruining it all!" If the EU was so great for the people in it, then why is there so much popularity in leaving it? Trump magically convinced them things are bad, when everything is good?

The "far right" is gaining popularity in Europe because of the failed open borders policy of the globalist left.

You put the words "The EU is so great, now Trump is ruining it all!" in quotation marks but no-one wrote that. You might be paraphrasing incorrectly. Your claim that there is widespread unpopularity of the European Union (EU) is untrue. There was a referendum in Britain and the electorate narrowly passed (52%) the proposition to leave the EU. No other country has applied to leave. Even in Britain, the majority in Scotland and North Ireland voted to remain. But Donald Trump has been praising the English for leaving and he is expressing his opinion that other member states should also leave. Now, honestly, how would Americans feel if the Chancellor of Germany said it would be good if Idaho were to secede from the USA? What a nerve that guy has.

Before the vote he did not condone or condemn Brexit, he just predicted it would pass. He also was not elected, he was a private citizen at that time. Comparing that to Merkel is disingenuous.

Obama was the one that threatened the U.K. by saying if they chose to leave, they would be at "the end of the line" for trade negotiations. Didn't hear any progressives complain about that, did we? No foaming at the mouth media stories about the US President "meddling" in UK's election/referendum.

Making a treaty for trade between countries normally takes many months, typically years. The United States is currently in discussions with the European Union (EU) of 28 countries, including Britain. This is very complicated and any one member state of the EU can prevent any one of hundreds of clauses which happened last month when Belgium invoked its veto. President Obama indicated that Britain was creating a serious problem because currently it is involved in the negotiations. President Obama was right to send a signal to the British that they cannot simultaneously have bilateral trade negotiations as if they were not in the EU and Britain would indeed have to wait until they left the union before beginning new discussions. This puts Britain at the end of the queue. It is simply a matter of fact.

Except it's not a fact because now they are at the front of the queue. You also just illustrated why dealing with the EU is so difficult, any member nation can veto.

Although Tilly thanked your post, what you wrote is not true because England is in the queue as a member of the European Union, it will lose its place and go to the end once it leaves the EU and then begin all over again with a different set of negotiations. This means going to the end.

 

[Eloy]

No empire lasts forever.

I think Americans believe their country will last a thousand years.

What's destroying the EU is the massive islamic immigration.

The far right is more of a danger to Europe

I agree with you about the danger of the far right to Europe. We remember when they fascists held a grip over the continent during the last century and how it led to internecine deaths and horrors. The European Union was established to ensure that this does not happen again and it is working. No more are European Union countries solving differences with wars but instead debate in a parliament how best to cooperate for the common good. Nationalism which threatens a breakup from within would be a catastrophe.

You've got to love this method of argument -- "The EU is so great, now Trump is ruining it all!" If the EU was so great for the people in it, then why is there so much popularity in leaving it? Trump magically convinced them things are bad, when everything is good?

The "far right" is gaining popularity in Europe because of the failed open borders policy of the globalist left.

You put the words "The EU is so great, now Trump is ruining it all!" in quotation marks but no-one wrote that. You might be paraphrasing incorrectly. Your claim that there is widespread unpopularity of the European Union (EU) is untrue. There was a referendum in Britain and the electorate narrowly passed (52%) the proposition to leave the EU. No other country has applied to leave. Even in Britain, the majority in Scotland and North Ireland voted to remain. But Donald Trump has been praising the English for leaving and he is expressing his opinion that other member states should also leave. Now, honestly, how would Americans feel if the Chancellor of Germany said it would be good if Idaho were to secede from the USA? What a nerve that guy has.

Before the vote he did not condone or condemn Brexit, he just predicted it would pass. He also was not elected, he was a private citizen at that time. Comparing that to Merkel is disingenuous.

Obama was the one that threatened the U.K. by saying if they chose to leave, they would be at "the end of the line" for trade negotiations. Didn't hear any progressives complain about that, did we? No foaming at the mouth media stories about the US President "meddling" in UK's election/referendum.

Although Tilly awarded you with a star medal for your post, you are fundamentally misinformed. Please read Post #77 to be put right.

 

[RodISHI]

The president of the European Union Council, Donald Tusk, warned the heads of governments from all the European Union (EU) states (except England) that newly elected U.S. President Trump represents a danger to the EU because he encouraged Britain to leave the union while encouraging other states of the EU to also leave.
It is reported on the front page of THE TIMES today that President Tusk sees a danger in the nationalism which is sweeping the world with Donald Trump's slogan of America First, England wanting out of the EU and political parties in France, Austria, Hungary, Poland, and the Netherlands, sounding racist.

President Tusk says that individual countries outside of the EU will find themselves subject to exploitation by the three powers of the USA, Russia, and China. Now, more than ever, European states of the Union need to keep focused on the European ideal of an ever closer political union so that the EU will hold its own against the Americans, the Russians, and the Chinese.

I believe President Tusk is right and it is sad to see the United States being perceived as a malevolent influence over Europe when we were so close after World War II but the corollary to America First, NATO being obsolete, and the breakup of the EU are all messages from Donald Trump. So long, it's been good to know you.

Donald Tusk -- President of the European Council

This dude is simply an anti-american that evidently believes he has the right to rule over another country's people and make their choices for them. Piss on him and his goons whomever they are!

He is actually saying that he is not happy with Trump's goal of destroying the EU. Understandable.

Tusk and the world in general should understand the American people are sick and tired of global elitists tagging their paychecks and the paychecks of their posterity to finance their evil global gains. Our paychecks in the US are backed by air and empty promises. They are based on fiat currency that is regulated by an unelected and uncontrollable cabal whose days are numbered. The EU won't survive the failure of that type of global elitist monetary system either. If anyone believes that they are going to be allowed by the American people to freely stick shit in the face of the American people who are hell bent on destroying this cabal once and for all they better think again.

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

 

[Fenton Lum]

The president of the European Union Council, Donald Tusk, warned the heads of governments from all the European Union (EU) states (except England) that newly elected U.S. President Trump represents a danger to the EU because he encouraged Britain to leave the union while encouraging other states of the EU to also leave.
It is reported on the front page of THE TIMES today that President Tusk sees a danger in the nationalism which is sweeping the world with Donald Trump's slogan of America First, England wanting out of the EU and political parties in France, Austria, Hungary, Poland, and the Netherlands, sounding racist.

President Tusk says that individual countries outside of the EU will find themselves subject to exploitation by the three powers of the USA, Russia, and China. Now, more than ever, European states of the Union need to keep focused on the European ideal of an ever closer political union so that the EU will hold its own against the Americans, the Russians, and the Chinese.

I believe President Tusk is right and it is sad to see the United States being perceived as a malevolent influence over Europe when we were so close after World War II but the corollary to America First, NATO being obsolete, and the breakup of the EU are all messages from Donald Trump. So long, it's been good to know you.

Donald Tusk -- President of the European Council

This dude is simply an anti-american that evidently believes he has the right to rule over another country's people and make their choices for them. Piss on him and his goons whomever they are!

He is actually saying that he is not happy with Trump's goal of destroying the EU. Understandable.

Tusk and the world in general should understand the American people are sick and tired of global elitists tagging their paychecks and the paychecks of their posterity to finance their evil global gains. Our paychecks in the US are backed by air and empty promises. They are based on fiat currency that is regulated by an unelected and uncontrollable cabal whose days are numbered. The EU won't survive the failure of that type of global elitist monetary system either. If anyone believes that they are going to be allowed by the American people to freely stick shit in the face of the American people who are hell bent on destroying this cabal once and for all they better think again.

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

 

[RodISHI]

This dude is simply an anti-american that evidently believes he has the right to rule over another country's people and make their choices for them. Piss on him and his goons whomever they are!

He is actually saying that he is not happy with Trump's goal of destroying the EU. Understandable.

Tusk and the world in general should understand the American people are sick and tired of global elitists tagging their paychecks and the paychecks of their posterity to finance their evil global gains. Our paychecks in the US are backed by air and empty promises. They are based on fiat currency that is regulated by an unelected and uncontrollable cabal whose days are numbered. The EU won't survive the failure of that type of global elitist monetary system either. If anyone believes that they are going to be allowed by the American people to freely stick shit in the face of the American people who are hell bent on destroying this cabal once and for all they better think again.

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

I am not joining in your group as I fought the corruption with everything means possible and paid the price heavily for it. So count me out of your game.

 

[Fenton Lum]

He is actually saying that he is not happy with Trump's goal of destroying the EU. Understandable.

Tusk and the world in general should understand the American people are sick and tired of global elitists tagging their paychecks and the paychecks of their posterity to finance their evil global gains. Our paychecks in the US are backed by air and empty promises. They are based on fiat currency that is regulated by an unelected and uncontrollable cabal whose days are numbered. The EU won't survive the failure of that type of global elitist monetary system either. If anyone believes that they are going to be allowed by the American people to freely stick shit in the face of the American people who are hell bent on destroying this cabal once and for all they better think again.

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

I am not joining in your group as I fought the corruption with everything means possible and paid the price heavily for it. So count me out of your game.

My group? Oh that's cute. You lost your fight my friend.

 

[esthermoon]

I've read Trump refused to meet Juncker the President of the EU Commission but I don't think he wanted to threaten the European Union.
I think he just thinks the European Union does not deserve many attentions because it's not a real State. Politically speaking the European Union is not seen very well outstide Europe

 

[RodISHI]

Tusk and the world in general should understand the American people are sick and tired of global elitists tagging their paychecks and the paychecks of their posterity to finance their evil global gains. Our paychecks in the US are backed by air and empty promises. They are based on fiat currency that is regulated by an unelected and uncontrollable cabal whose days are numbered. The EU won't survive the failure of that type of global elitist monetary system either. If anyone believes that they are going to be allowed by the American people to freely stick shit in the face of the American people who are hell bent on destroying this cabal once and for all they better think again.

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

I am not joining in your group as I fought the corruption with everything means possible and paid the price heavily for it. So count me out of your game.

My group? Oh that's cute. You lost your fight my friend.

I do not know you so being "your friend" would be tough. Nor do I agree with your attitude in many of your posts.

 

[Fenton Lum]

You would be better off focusing on your own economic system which in essence is an authoritarian system that still behaves as a colonial wealth extraction enterprise. Everything that presses down on you begins at home with your own system.

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

I am not joining in your group as I fought the corruption with everything means possible and paid the price heavily for it. So count me out of your game.

My group? Oh that's cute. You lost your fight my friend.

I do not know you so being "your friend" would be tough. Nor do I agree with your attitude in many of your posts.

Meh, whuyagunna do, free will and shit.

 

[RodISHI]

Very bright of you; Eloy is the one complaining about our president ruining the EU which is crap. I merely pointed out it wasn't working prior to Trump running for president. Now that you bring up the fact that the EU has financial problems you want to lay that on my door step? I think not.

You personally? No. All of us as a society? Yup.

I am not joining in your group as I fought the corruption with everything means possible and paid the price heavily for it. So count me out of your game.

My group? Oh that's cute. You lost your fight my friend.

I do not know you so being "your friend" would be tough. Nor do I agree with your attitude in many of your posts.

Meh, whuyagunna do, free will and shit.

Your liberty to have free will ends where my rights begin and mine ends where yours begin.

 

[NoNukes]

A spelling error does not make one an idiot. Spreading fake news might.

That is just one of the MANY examples of your idiocy. You have absolutely no cognitive function and simply parrot the attitudes you have been conditioned to parrot. Even when proof is brought forward that the world is round, you simply continue with your childish insistence that it is really flat.

You are accusing me of the things you are guilty of. Typical right wing behaviour.