Trump should no longer be taken seriously on immigration policy…or any policy for that matter.

[Nobody911]

Trump alone cannot make America great again!

US policies are influenced by a myriad of factors, and while presidential campaigns set the tone, the actual implementation and direction of these policies depend on several key elements:

1. Public Opinion: Elected officials often respond to the views and needs of their constituents, which can shift rapidly.

2. Congressional Support: Policies require legislative backing. Changes in congressional composition can affect which policies are enacted or blocked.

3. Interest Groups and Lobbying: Various organizations advocate for specific policies, impacting legislative priorities and outcomes.

4. Judicial Decisions: Courts can uphold or strike down laws, influencing policy direction based on interpretations of the Constitution.

5. Economic Conditions: Economic crises, growth, or shifts can prompt changes in fiscal and monetary policies to address new challenges.

6. Global Events: International relations, conflicts, and treaties can necessitate shifts in foreign policy or security measures.

7. Executive Actions: Presidents can enact policies through executive orders, shaping agendas outside the legislative process.

8. Media Influence: Coverage and public discourse can shape perceptions, prompting policymakers to adapt to public sentiment.

9. Technological Advances: New technologies can create opportunities and challenges, leading to policy adjustments in various sectors.

10. Social Movements: Grassroots movements can drive change and influence policy agendas, particularly on issues like civil rights and environmental concerns.

These factors contribute to the fluid nature of US policies, making them adaptable to changing circumstances and priorities.

 

[YoursTruly]

Trump Tells Farmers ‘Changes Are Coming’ to Immigration Crackdown​

June 12, 2025

President Trump acknowledged on Thursday that his immigration policies are hurting the farming and hotel industries, making a rare concession that his crackdown is having ripple effects on the American work force.

Mr. Trump, who has made mass deportation a centerpiece of his presidency, said on social media that “changes are coming.” And while there was no sign of any significant modification to his policies, Mr. Trump’s statements suggested the scale of his crackdown may be alienating industries he wants to keep in his corner.

“Our great Farmers and people in the Hotel and Leisure business have been stating that our very aggressive policy on immigration is taking very good, long time workers away from them, with those jobs being almost impossible to replace,” he said. Mr. Trump for decades has owned luxury hotels, an industry with a strong immigrant labor force.

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“Our farmers are being hurt badly by, you know, they have very good workers, they have worked for them for 20 years,” he said. “They’re not citizens, but they’ve turned out to be, you know, great. And we’re going to have to do something about that. We can’t take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don’t have maybe what they’re supposed to have, maybe not.”

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

One day he and Homan are telling us ALL illegals are in play for arrest and deportation and the next day he says he’ll protect illegals working in ag, hotels and or restaurants…What message does that send? Are illegal farm workers illegal or not? Is there some weird in-between sort of citizenship that we don’t know about?

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They got to ya.





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[MarathonMike]

As am I but I’m not prepared to look the other way and pretend it’s good when he fucks up.
Didn’t he solidify the libs position that we need illegals in order to run America?
If that’s true then why fight it…lets open the border.

No he didn't. The mistake IMO was to get too aggressive by setting a 3000 per day quota on apprehensions. That put too much pressure on ICE to make large scale raids and gave the Left the visuals they needed to incite their rioters. Go back to targeting the criminals first and the high risk illegals like the 50,000 Chinese nationals that entered at the end of the Biden's term.

 

[Stann]

Well for one, I never claimed to be a hard core MAGA. I'm not even though I still like Trump for a lot of reasons, and he's better than the alternatives so far. As far as illegal immigration goes, if we simply got rid of all the illegals who have come here in the last five years we would be much better off and it would be huge. Going after people who have lived here and raised families for the last 30 years actually reaps minimal benefit except to pack the stat sheet. Its just going after the low hanging fruit. The worst of the worst have come on in during the last several years and those include illegals from all around the WORLD, China - Iran - etc... they really should be the focus. As far as people who are anchored here do to jobs and families raised over 20 - 30 years... why not give THOSE people hearings in court and forget about the rest? they are not going to run, and if they dont show up for the hearing, then deport them.

Please list the reasons you like trump.Thanl you.

 

[Foxfyre]

WTF….The dude is all over the place.
End DACA…NO don’t end DACA
Deport all illegals…NO deport criminals
Raid farms, hotels and restaurants…..NO don’t raid farms, hotels and restarants

Dear Donny,
You’re starting to look like old Joe…you have no convictions….you can’t be trusted.
Get your shit straight and stay committed…or look like an ignorant, incompetent fool.
We don’t know what to believe.
You have nothing to lose, you’re almost dead, don’t fuck this opportunity up for JD Vance, for your kids and for core Americans.

Regards,
The Core Americans who gave you the keys to the Oval Office

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-pauses-immigration-arrests-at-farms-hotels-and-restaurants-7a8bc353?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjH80TlZBS0uRvJVkQku8pp33X1vq8DKGDePIbyAFMQObV-64oZbqjn7p-PbME%3D&gaa_ts=684dfe68&gaa_sig=pSdbGcl3rEyAzLEo3nTTwsQ8Z_NfB5QTsCDJlshq3yM4uK426Rs_i5qJLNNg2NH19w1a0W9SQ_vXg0biBIVM-Q%3D%3D

You are confusing critical thinking, readjustments to address changing situations, willingness to compromise/renegotiate/change tactics to something more effective and/or acceptable to lawmakers that still gets the job done with 'being all over the place.'

You can't have it both ways. You can't call him would-be 'king' or authoritarian or narcissistic or his way or the highway and then blame him for not being inflexible when he is the compromiser/negotiator/deal maker.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No he didn't. The mistake IMO was to get too aggressive by setting a 3000 per day quota on apprehensions. That put too much pressure on ICE to make large scale raids and gave the Left the visuals they needed to incite their rioters. Go back to targeting the criminals first and the high risk illegals like the 50,000 Chinese nationals that entered at the end of the Biden's term.

Is that what the Kenyan, Bush and Clinton did?

 

[elektra]

Trump alone cannot make America great again!

Very true, what else is very true is Trump is the only politician that made, make America great his platform and policies

 

[Nostra]

The bulk of the US population is illegal Euros who invaded and murdered the natives about 150 years ago.
They need to go first.

The bulk of the US is over 150 years old?

 

[whitehall]

Seriously? Do commie lefties really think open borders and the rape and murder of Americans at the hands of illegal aliens is the logical future of the democrat party?

 

[Jroc]

WTF….The dude is all over the place.
End DACA…NO don’t end DACA
Deport all illegals…NO deport criminals
Raid farms, hotels and restaurants…..NO don’t raid farms, hotels and restarants

Dear Donny,
You’re starting to look like old Joe…you have no convictions….you can’t be trusted.
Get your shit straight and stay committed…or look like an ignorant, incompetent fool.
We don’t know what to believe.
You have nothing to lose, you’re almost dead, don’t fuck this opportunity up for JD Vance, for your kids and for core Americans.

Regards,
The Core Americans who gave you the keys to the Oval Office

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-pauses-immigration-arrests-at-farms-hotels-and-restaurants-7a8bc353?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjH80TlZBS0uRvJVkQku8pp33X1vq8DKGDePIbyAFMQObV-64oZbqjn7p-PbME%3D&gaa_ts=684dfe68&gaa_sig=pSdbGcl3rEyAzLEo3nTTwsQ8Z_NfB5QTsCDJlshq3yM4uK426Rs_i5qJLNNg2NH19w1a0W9SQ_vXg0biBIVM-Q%3D%3D

Let them work, we want to get the none workers and the criminals out of here.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

WTF….The dude is all over the place.
End DACA…NO don’t end DACA
Deport all illegals…NO deport criminals
Raid farms, hotels and restaurants…..NO don’t raid farms, hotels and restarants

Dear Donny,
You’re starting to look like old Joe…you have no convictions….you can’t be trusted.
Get your shit straight and stay committed…or look like an ignorant, incompetent fool.
We don’t know what to believe.
You have nothing to lose, you’re almost dead, don’t fuck this opportunity up for JD Vance, for your kids and for core Americans.

Regards,
The Core Americans who gave you the keys to the Oval Office

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-pauses-immigration-arrests-at-farms-hotels-and-restaurants-7a8bc353?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjH80TlZBS0uRvJVkQku8pp33X1vq8DKGDePIbyAFMQObV-64oZbqjn7p-PbME%3D&gaa_ts=684dfe68&gaa_sig=pSdbGcl3rEyAzLEo3nTTwsQ8Z_NfB5QTsCDJlshq3yM4uK426Rs_i5qJLNNg2NH19w1a0W9SQ_vXg0biBIVM-Q%3D%3D

I am all for what he is doing and I am as conservative as they come. It is a lie that we want to deport hard-working non-citizens. We want criminal illegals out of here and anyone who commits a crime or assaults cops or burns our flag.

 

[cnm]

Fuck the opposition, if we give in now, it will only emboldened them and they'll believe their protests work.

Sure, I would rather see criminals go first, but this isn't sounding like that. It's sounding like they aren't going to go after certain illegals at all. This is sending out the message loud and clear that we like suppressed wages with slave labor, and we want more of it.

Is this news to you? I mean, if it wasn't the case you'd have put up your minimum wage years ago.

 

[Dragonlady]

The funniest part of this is that MAGA doesn't even know what they want anymore. Some of the MAGA posters here are now perfectly fine with allowing illegal immigrants to stay here to work. A gentle breeze completely flips their entire perspective on this issue.


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It's whatever Trump says on any given day. Even if it's the opposite of what he said yesterday.

But even worse, it's whoever he expresses hatred for on any given day. And he has that lunatic fringe who will go after his "enemies". Remember that guy who lived in his van in Florida and was mailing bombs to George Soros, and others. He had an "enemies list" too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2018/10/26/who-is-cesar-altieri-sayoc-what-we-know-about-suspected-mail-bomber-arrested-florida/

The guy who attacked Nancy Pelosi's husband. The shooter at the Tree of Life, the shooter at the Walmart in El Paso, or the grocery store in Buffalo. All of these people were reacting to Trump targeting his enemies.

And now he's pulled the security details assigned to General Milley, Dr. Fauci, and others who have been threatened or attacked because of having worked for Trump followed his orders, and then were found "insufficiently loyal".

Gen. Milley, in particular, carried out Trump's order to have Sulemani assassinated, and is under a death threat from the Iranians because of it.

 

[BrokeLoser]

I am all for what he is doing and I am as conservative as they come.

No you are not…No legit conservative shits on our Declaration Of Independence and right to sovereignty…NONE!

It is a lie that we want to deport hard-working non-citizens.

That’s a core Lib ideal…”some illegals are illegal and most are not”…Full-blown lib shit.

We want criminal illegals out of here and anyone who commits a crime or assaults cops or burns our flag.

Different levels of illegality…Lib shit

 

[CrazyTrader55]

WTF….The dude is all over the place.
End DACA…NO don’t end DACA
Deport all illegals…NO deport criminals
Raid farms, hotels and restaurants…..NO don’t raid farms, hotels and restarants

Dear Donny,
You’re starting to look like old Joe…you have no convictions….you can’t be trusted.
Get your shit straight and stay committed…or look like an ignorant, incompetent fool.
We don’t know what to believe.
You have nothing to lose, you’re almost dead, don’t fuck this opportunity up for JD Vance, for your kids and for core Americans.

Regards,
The Core Americans who gave you the keys to the Oval Office

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-pauses-immigration-arrests-at-farms-hotels-and-restaurants-7a8bc353?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjH80TlZBS0uRvJVkQku8pp33X1vq8DKGDePIbyAFMQObV-64oZbqjn7p-PbME%3D&gaa_ts=684dfe68&gaa_sig=pSdbGcl3rEyAzLEo3nTTwsQ8Z_NfB5QTsCDJlshq3yM4uK426Rs_i5qJLNNg2NH19w1a0W9SQ_vXg0biBIVM-Q%3D%3D

They should not be targeting farm workers, that's just plain stupid.
Set up a migrant program that allows them to work on the farms, and so we know who these people are. And pay them a decent wage. Our food supply depends on them.

Anyone else - DEPORT

 

[BrokeLoser]

They should not be targeting farm workers, that's just plain stupid.
Set up a migrant program that allows them to work on the farms, and so we know who these people are. And pay them a decent wage. Our food supply depends on them.

Anyone else - DEPORT

They should be targeting illegals…PERIOD. That’s what Clinton, Bush and the Kenyan did…WTF is this so complicated for ‘conservatives’?
Illegal farm workers service illegals…They harvest the food American taxpayers pay for to feed illegals. This shit is so simple. Illegals have an underground tax free black-market economy within our economy…we simply pretend they don’t.
No illegals = No illegal farm workers needed.
Black folks worked our fields before the invasion.

 

[cnm]

It's whatever Trump says on any given day. Even if it's the opposite of what he said yesterday.

Pretty entertaining to watch.

 

[XponentialChaos]

They should be targeting illegals…PERIOD. That’s what Clinton, Bush and the Kenyan did…WTF is this so complicated for ‘conservatives’?

The cult has moved on without you. MAGA is now in favor of allowing illegal immigrants to stay and work. Better luck tomorrow. Maybe Trump will fart in the other direction and change their minds again.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

No you are not…No legit conservative shits on our Declaration Of Independence and right to sovereignty…NONE!

That’s a core Lib ideal…”some illegals are illegal and most are not”…Full-blown lib shit.

Different levels of illegality…Lib shit

You have to be practical. There are 10 million or more here. You go after the criminals first. You can't round up 10 million all at once. That is not what former presidents did and would not sit well with many conservatives, either. You get the criminals. You get the ones who had not been caught before and now engaged in theft, carjacking, or whatever, and get them out. That leaves people who haven't committed crimes.