Trump should no longer be taken seriously on immigration policy…or any policy for that matter.

[BrokeLoser]

One of them took your emotional support teddy
I knew it.

You’re doing what the TRULT does…you don’t have the capacity to defend the indefensible, you can’t find your nuts that Donny took from you, you can’t just say he fucked up so you post retarded bullshit. ******* sad.

 

[TimFitz]

Trump shows that he is willing to listen to any reasonable voices. There might have to be a period of adjustment as we reduce reliance on those who wish us harm.

Trump never list ens to anyone. That’s way he surrounds himself with yes men and stooges.

Trump only “listens” when his BS falls flat on its face.

 

[BrokeLoser]

No. They are not. Trump was listening to those small businesses that have been relying on the crutch of criminal invasion. They need to be helped to adjust to mechanization.

Let’s be ignorant and bite, assume that’s true…
Why not offer the same retarded as **** bullshit protections for small businesses that have been relying on illegal factory workers, forklift operators, food processers, landscapers, drywallers, carpenters, tire shop workers, tree trimmers, street vendors, pool builders, concrete finishers, HVAC workers, plumbers, electricians, flower sellers on the offramp….Do you see where this goes?
Seems awfully discriminatory to only allow a few industries to keep their slaves….no?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

So the timing of the back-peddle was just coincidence? That really makes sense to you?

Things reached a point affecting more than one. The deportations haven't stopped. ICE Is conducting more raids than ever. The garment businesses are being hit especially hard which is a good thing.

 

[my2¢]

On the heels of Biden's handling of immigration, Trump disorganization on the matter isn't nearly as bad. However, in respect to Trump's beginner's approach in certain undertakings, I'll go back to

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Let’s be ignorant and bite, assume that’s true…
Why not offer the same retarded as **** bullshit protections for small businesses that have been relying on illegal factory workers, forklift operators, food processers, landscapers, drywallers, carpenters, tire shop workers, tree trimmers, street vendors, pool builders, concrete finishers, HVAC workers, plumbers, electricians, flower sellers on the offramp….Do you see where this goes?
Seems awfully discriminatory to only allow a few industries to keep their slaves….no?

Oh well, I don't care about discrimination. There are those industries like construction that just displaced Americans. They can just go hire Americans. There are those industries like agriculture and housekeeping where Americans aren't being displaced. The invaders are being displaced as mechanization and robotics take over. These are the businesses that need help during the transition. Perhaps something like the old Bracero program.

 

[TimFitz]

It is ironic to watch as the hard core bigots cheering “amass deportations” watch their fearless fuhrer’s actions blow up in his face.

Trump ran on bigotry. At the moment, his focus has been on brown people.

And, with his ICE pogroms, he exposed the dirty not-so-secret reality of immigration politics.

Undocumented immigrants make up substantial portions of the labor force of many American industries.

This reality has been perpetuated for decades by the GOP’s refusal to even discuss large guest worker programs or paths to citizenship.

So, the undocumented live among us.

Tru,p was never interested in reforming any of this.

hispano-hate plays well with his all white lower class base.

So why solve a problem when you can keep making political hay out out of it by pandering to white resentment.

Now, the lobbyists have spoken. restaurants, hotels, meat packing and the agricultural sector (can construction be far behind).

 

[SweetTea]

• May saw a decrease in the month-over-month growth of retail sales in May compared to April.
• The University of Michigan's consumer sentiment index dropped to its lowest level since June 2022.
• Consumers are becoming more value-conscious and are making choices to stretch their dollars further shifting away from higher-priced items according to Barclays and Fortune.
• May saw a decrease in discretionary spending
  
  
  Not looking like a robust economy that Biden passed Trump. Many are predicting inflation from tariffs here in June/July.
  
  
  

Biden passed an economy built on sand. Trump is solidifying the foundation.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Things reached a point affecting more than one.

Assuming this is true…How did Trump, Homan and Stephen Miller forget to calculate for the backlash before choosing the pathway for iCE? I have to agree with the nose-ringers, this Administration looks like clowns making knee jerk decisions on a whim.

 

[TimFitz]

Oh well, I don't care about discrimination. There are those industries like construction that just displaced Americans. They can just go hire Americans. There are those industries like agriculture and housekeeping where Americans aren't being displaced. The invaders are being displaced as mechanization and robotics take over. These are the businesses that need help during the transition. Perhaps something like the old Bracero program.

This oversimplified and naive narrative seems to suggest that the construction industry “displaced Americans”, as it were a plot.

This is idiotic. The sort of rationalization that comes from a comic book understanding of business and the world.

You are correct that the vast majority of workplace displacement is due to automation.

Of course, you conveniently forget that when it’s time to rant the bigoted assaults on brown people.

 

[TimFitz]

Assuming this is true…How did Trump, Homan and Stephen Miller forget to calculate for the backlash before choosing the pathway for iCE? I have to agree with the nose-ringers, this Administration looks like clowns making knee jerk decisions on a whim.

That is how Trump ran his businesses. And why he won’t from bankruptcy to litigation.

he ran his first regieme the same way.

This time, he didn’t even bother to make the pretense of looking for competence, and instead hired Fox Noise presenters, stooges, and yes men.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Assuming this is true…How did Trump, Homan and Stephen Miller forget to calculate for the backlash before choosing the pathway for iCE? I have to agree with the nose-ringers, this Administration looks like clowns making knee jerk decisions on a whim.

You're right. They did forget about the results everywhere. The initial goal was just round up and throw out. Something I do agree with. I want to see these invaders loaded onto boxcar and abandoned in the desert.

However a delegation of business leaders went to the president and made a credible case to the man who is supposed to be president for everyone. I might not like it, but I understand what happened.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This oversimplified and naive narrative seems to suggest that the construction industry “displaced Americans”, as it were a plot.

This is idiotic. The sort of rationalization that comes from a comic book understanding of business and the world.

You are correct that the vast majority of workplace displacement is due to automation.

Of course, you conveniently forget that when it’s time to rant the bigoted assaults on brown people.

It is a shame that brown people, as a class, are disposed to harm others as a cultural practice. But, it is what it is.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

All ILLEGALS are criminals…they are trying to steal what should be most coveted to ALL legit Americans…A U.S. CITIZENSHIP….You go after all you can any chance you get. You raid a hotel with 35 illegals working there you don’t only arrest the one with the felony, you arrest them all and make good use of taxpayer cash. Again, this is simple for anybody sane, anybody who thinks we’re a sovereign nation and anybody not named Humberto.

That’s a retarded statement

Bill Clinton arrested and deported 12 million, Bush and the Kenyan out-paced Trump

All ILLEGALS are criminals…they are trying to steal what should be most coveted to ALL legit Americans…A U.S. CITIZENSHIP….You go after all you can any chance you get. You raid a hotel with 35 illegals working there you don’t only arrest the one with the felony, you arrest them all and make good use of taxpayer cash. Again, this is simple for anybody sane, anybody who thinks we’re a sovereign nation and anybody not named Humberto.

ALL illegals have committed the greatest crime against society…They stole our most prized possession.

Below is from Grok: The former presidents did not round up those who were working in restaurants and on farms. I am not disagreeing that if someone is here illegally they can be deported. That is impractical.

Former President Bill Clinton did not personally arrest and deport 12 million people, as the phrasing of the question might suggest. However, during his presidency (1993–2001), the U.S. government, through the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), carried out approximately 12.3 million deportations, according to the Migration Policy Institute. The vast majority of these—about 11.4 million, or 93%—were "returns," where individuals, primarily apprehended at the U.S.-Mexico border, voluntarily left the country without formal removal proceedings. These returns were mostly of Mexican nationals and did not typically involve arrests or judicial hearings. Formal removals, which involve a court order and can include arrests, numbered around 870,000 during Clinton’s two terms.
The high number of returns reflects the enforcement practices of the time, which emphasized border control amid record unauthorized crossings. Clinton signed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) of 1996, which introduced "expedited removal," allowing deportations without a court hearing for certain noncitizens, though this process was subject to due process protections and primarily applied at borders. Claims on platforms like X that 92–93% of these deportations lacked "due process" are misleading, as returns and expedited removals follow legal procedures, even if they don’t involve a judge.
In context, Clinton’s administration focused on strengthening border enforcement, increasing the Border Patrol, and addressing criminal aliens, with deportations rising significantly after 1996. However, the 12.3 million figure is often inflated or misconstrued in debates, as it includes mostly voluntary returns, not mass arrests or interior removals. For comparison, George W. Bush’s administration saw about 10.3 million deportations (8.3 million returns), and Obama’s saw 5.3 million, with a higher proportion of formal removals

 

[SweetTea]

It is ironic to watch as the hard core bigots cheering “amass deportations” watch their fearless fuhrer’s actions blow up in his face.

Trump ran on bigotry. At the moment, his focus has been on brown people.

And, with his ICE pogroms, he exposed the dirty not-so-secret reality of immigration politics.

Undocumented immigrants make up substantial portions of the labor force of many American industries.

This reality has been perpetuated for decades by the GOP’s refusal to even discuss large guest worker programs or paths to citizenship.

So, the undocumented live among us.

Tru,p was never interested in reforming any of this.

hispano-hate plays well with his all white lower class base.

So why solve a problem when you can keep making political hay out out of it by pandering to white resentment.

Now, the lobbyists have spoken. restaurants, hotels, meat packing and the agricultural sector (can construction be far behind).

Racism has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Also, I thought Republicans were the rich people. Now they're the lower class? You guys are all over the place.

 

[TimFitz]

It is a shame that brown people, as a class, are disposed to harm others as a cultural practice. But, it is what it is.

Your bigotry speaking, again.

Facts don’t support your false claim.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Your bigotry speaking, again.

Facts don’t support your false claim.

Check the 50 most wanted in any major city.

 

[TimFitz]

Racism has absolutely nothing to do with it.

Also, I thought Republicans were the rich people. Now they're the lower class? You guys are all over the place.

Racism is the core value of Trumpism. Trump built a political persona on being king of the birthers.

He switched to blaming Hispanics when he ran inc2016 9it was what he launched his campaign on).

Trump’s bigoted base has spent the last two weeks cheering Nazi style roundups promoted by Trump and his henchmen aimed EXCLUSIVELY at Hispanics (indeed, the only “probable cause ICE ever seems to have is the ethnicity of their victims0.
Republicans are the rich people.

They have used a well financed and coordinated noise machine to convince the lower class white audience (the core of Trump nation) that blaming the poor is a way to riches.

Meanwhile. They have spent decades convincing these idiots that trickle down “economics” benefit them, while the rich pick their pockets.

I did Pell you anything you didn’t already know.

 

[Delldude]

Facts don’t support your false claim

Debatable.

Wikipedia:

Homicides with white victims and black offenders were more than 2.3 times more common than the opposite (566 vs 246). Including homicide victims in 2019 where the race was unknown, 53.7% were black or African-American, 41.6% were white, 3% were of other races, and 1.7% were of unknown races.
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Blacks, however, represent 26.6% of total arrests, including 51.2% of murder arrests, 52.7% of robbery arrests, 28.8% of burglary arrests, 28.6% of motor vehicle theft arrests, 42.2% of prostitution arrests, and 26.1% of drug arrests (FBI's Uniform Crime Report, Table 43).Feb 13, 2024
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In the United States, a significant majority of violent crime, including homicide, is intraracial, meaning the offender and victim are of the same race. Specifically, data from 2019 indicates that around 91% of black homicide victims were killed by black offenders, according to Wikipedia. This pattern of intraracial violence is also observed among white victims and offenders.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Republicans are the rich people.

Hmmm….yet all of Hollywood, all of Big-Tech, all musicians, all Elites vote Democrat…Weird huh?

They have used a well financed and coordinated noise machine to convince the lower class white audience (the core of Trump nation) that blaming the poor is a way to riches.

“They” convince core Americans to vote on the interest of the nation and it’s future while Democrats convince their constituents to vote on personal issues, skin color, social justice, gender confusion, free shit etc etc

Meanwhile. They have spent decades convincing these idiots that trickle down “economics” benefit them, while the rich pick their pockets.

hahaha…How exactly does one “pick the pocket” of a poor person? How does trickle up economics work? How many jobs does Guadalupe and ShaQuita create?
You’re saying a lot of silly ass shit.