MagicMike
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Polls show voters aren't buying this gaslighting bullshit anymore.
You can believe it if you want but it isn't going to help Republican's midterm election hopes.
Trump Says The Economy Is an A+++++, 3% of Americans Agree
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You can believe it if you want but it isn't going to help Republican's midterm election hopes.
Sure you can.
Of course that is not what I meant by "talk up an economy" and if you have a TENTH of hte financial background as you pretend, you know that,.
so drop the shit talk.
Do I really need to explain the concept of personal judgement to you? Because you are acting like you don't know anything about it.
Generally speaking, yes, that is true.
But, you know as well as I do that to a significant extent, demand for goods and services can be increased or decreased based on emotional or pychological factors such as confidence or lack there of.
If Trump managed to talk up American consumer confidence or reassure business leaders, that could tilt an economy in flux to continue growing as opposed to starting to decline.
Ditto for the dems who are spouting as much doom and gloom as they can. Only in reverse of course.
Which do you want to see happen? Would you like to see Trump's efforts work and to see jobs and wages trend upwards?
What are you talking about? How did that answer my comment?
You have two examples of people saying things and you are asking why they are not to be treated as exactly the same.
It is though you have no ability of personal judgement.
Actually, it is as though not only don't you have any, but you have never even been exposed to the CONCEPT of it.
For me to answer your question... as it was presented, would be me explaining that concept to you, and then telling you to develope that skill and then apply it to the question.
In reality, I don't believe it was a serious question. You were presented with a point that was a strong point and instead of dealing with it seriously you asked a "question" designed to derail the discussion, into meaningless quibbles about semantics or some such shit.
The reality is that Trump is trying to talk the economy up, which is really part of his job, and the dems are trying to talk the economy DOWN, which is reallyh a BETRAYAL of their job and their responsibilities to their constituents.
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Totally removed from reality.
He gets all his "news" from FoxNews and his advisors only tell him what they want him to know.
Trump is not running the country, he is a figure head while people like Miller and Vought are running the show.
They hand Trump EOs to sign, which Trump does without reading them. He often has to ask what is in the EO he is signing.
They give him pet projects to keep him occupied, tearing down the White House, "fixing" the golf courses at Joint Base Andrews.
When asked about pardons he has given he has on more than one occasion said "I do not know who you are talking about"
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Trump described the Economy to Politico as A+++++ meanwhile recent polls show 3% of people think the economy is great and Politico's own poll paints a grim picture of the economy from Americans.
Trump has convinced some people up is down, and down is up, but I suspect even he can't convince broke ass Americans they are suddenly doing great because he says so in front of the construction of a gaudy ball room.
What say you? How is the economy doing?
Trump's "A+++++" review of economy clashes with Americans' perceptions
Many Americans are uneasy about their personal financial situation, despite Trump's upbeat self-appraisal.www.newsweek.com
President Donald Trump on Tuesday credited himself with overcoming the economic "disaster" left by his predecessor and gave his economy an “A+++++” rating, but the experiences of most Americans paint a far gloomier picture of financial conditions in 2025.
Economy
How would you rate economic conditions in this country today -- as excellent, good, only fair, or poor? Right now, do you think that economic conditions in the country as a whole are getting better or getting worse?news.gallup.com
The economy is in danger of going into another Bear Market as was organized by BigBanking after the assassination of President Lincoln.
But I gave the USA economy a rating of A+++++
for your poll, due to the fact that President Trump knows what he going to do next!
Abraham Lincoln is assassinated
His friend in Chicago, Colonel Dick Taylor, came to his rescue and put the solution to him:
“Just get Congress to pass a bill authorizing the printing of full legal tender treasury notes, and pay your soldiers with them, and go ahead and win your war with them also.”
This is what Lincoln did, and he won the war: between 1862 and 1863, in full conformity with the provisions of the U.S. Constitution, Lincoln caused $450 million of debt-free Greenbacks to be issued, to conduct the Civil War. (These Treasury notes were called “Greenbacks” by the people because they were printed with green ink on the back.)
Lincoln called these Greenbacks “the greatest blessing the American people have ever had.” A blessing for all, except for the bankers, since it was putting an end to their racket, to the stealing of the nation's credit and issuing interest-bearing money. So they did everything possible to destroy these Greenbacks and sabotage Lincoln's work. Lord Goschen, spokesman of the Financiers, wrote in the London Times (Quote taken from Who Rules America by C. K. Howe, and reproduced in Lincoln Money Martyred by Dr. R. E. Search):
“If this mischievous financial policy, which has its origin in North America, shall become indurated down to a fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. That Government must be destroyed, or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe.” (The monarchy of the money lenders.)
First, in order to cast discredit on the Greenbacks, the bankers persuaded Congress to vote, in February of 1862, the “Exception Clause”, which said that the Greenbacks could not be used to pay the interest on the national debt, nor to pay taxes, excises, or import duties. Then, in 1863, having financed the election of enough Senators and Representatives, the bankers got the Congress to revoke the Greenback Law in 1863, and enact in its place the National Banking Act. (Money was then to be issued interest-bearing by privately-owned banks.)
This Act also provided that the Greenbacks should be retired from circulation as soon as they came back to the Treasury in payment of taxes. Lincoln heatedly protested, but his most urgent objective was to win the war and save the Union, which obliged him to put off till after the war the veto he was planning against this Act and the action he was to take against the bankers. Lincoln nevertheless declared:
“I have two great enemies, the Southern army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. And of the two, the bankers are my greatest foe.”
Lincoln was re-elected President in 1864, and he made it quite clear that he would attack the power of the bankers, once the war was over. The war ended on April 9, 1865, but Lincoln was assassinated five days later, on April 14. A tremendous restriction of credit followed, organized by the banks: the currency in circulation in the country, which was, in 1866, $1,907 million, representing $50.46 for each American citizen, had been reduced to $605 million in 1876, representing $14.60 per capita. The result: in ten years, 56,446 business failures, representing a loss of $2 billion. And as if this was not enough, the bankers reduced the per capita currency in circulation to $6.67 in 1887!
William Jennings Bryan: “The banks ought to get out”
Chapter 49 — The History of Banking Control in the United States
This fight of the International Financiers to install their fraudulent debt-money system has been particularly vicious in the United States of America since its very foundation, and historical facts show that several American statesmen were well aware of the dishonest money system the Financiers...famguardian.org
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U.S. consumer sentiment declining more than expected this month.
The Consumer Confidence Index fell to 89.1 in December, below economists’ consensus forecast for a 91 reading and also down from the upwardly revised 92.9 print from November, the Conference Board announced on Tuesday.
The Consumer Confidence Index fell to 89.1 in December, below economists’ consensus forecast for a 91 reading and also down from the upwardly revised 92.9 print from November, the Conference Board announced on Tuesday.
Consumer confidence falling as economy booms?
Strongly implies that the fall is a result of false data.
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Trump described the Economy to Politico as A+++++ meanwhile recent polls show 3% of people think the economy is great and Politico's own poll paints a grim picture of the economy from Americans.
Trump has convinced some people up is down, and down is up, but I suspect even he can't convince broke ass Americans they are suddenly doing great because he says so in front of the construction of a gaudy ball room.
What say you? How is the economy doing?
Trump's "A+++++" review of economy clashes with Americans' perceptions
Many Americans are uneasy about their personal financial situation, despite Trump's upbeat self-appraisal.
President Donald Trump on Tuesday credited himself with overcoming the economic "disaster" left by his predecessor and gave his economy an “A+++++” rating, but the experiences of most Americans paint a far gloomier picture of financial conditions in 2025.
Economy
How would you rate economic conditions in this country today -- as excellent, good, only fair, or poor? Right now, do you think that economic conditions in the country as a whole are getting better or getting worse?
U.S. GDP grew at a blistering 4.3% pace in the third quarter
Economic growth blew past forecasts in the third quarter despite ongoing concerns about jobs, tariffs and inflation.
www.cbsnews.com
Mac1958
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As Goldman Sachs recently pointed out, current economic numbers are being driven by those at the top only.
That goes for both corporate spending (primarily the massive AI buildout) and highest net worth families.
If it were not for AI and the top 1%, the numbers would look entirely different. Consumer debt also just hit a record $18.6 trillion, so many below the 1% are buying on credit. The actual wealth is not "trickling down".
As for the rest of the country, I think we all know damn well what is happening. Whether some will admit it or not.
That goes for both corporate spending (primarily the massive AI buildout) and highest net worth families.
If it were not for AI and the top 1%, the numbers would look entirely different. Consumer debt also just hit a record $18.6 trillion, so many below the 1% are buying on credit. The actual wealth is not "trickling down".
As for the rest of the country, I think we all know damn well what is happening. Whether some will admit it or not.
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According to today's jobs report, manufacturing jobs have not grown for 9 months.
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The statement refers to the fact that the U.S. manufacturing sector has been in a period of contraction for nine consecutive months as of November 2025, according to the Institute for Supply Management (ISM). This indicates a decline in activity, including new orders and employment, rather than growth.
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The statement refers to the fact that the U.S. manufacturing sector has been in a period of contraction for nine consecutive months as of November 2025, according to the Institute for Supply Management (ISM). This indicates a decline in activity, including new orders and employment, rather than growth.
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Growth in data centers is keeping the economy afloat.
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I heard a prediction a few days ago by the gifted Dr. Russel Moyer that interest rates will fall in April of 2026.
Prophet Russ Moyer | Prophetic Word Over 2026
Prophet Russ Moyer | Prophetic Word Over 2026
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The economy is thriving growing and will be the best in history
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I do not personally know how he was given this prediction for the future but Mark Taylor was pretty close to a near death experience when in 2011, he was given a prediction related to Donald J. Trump becoming President of the USA and that under his guidance the economies of the USA and Israel would both boom!
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