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Putin has always preferred democrats to republicans...its undeniable...Putin doesn't hate Hillary he was disgusted by her reaction to Qaddafi being assassinated in the streets by his own people...he asked her and Obama how they were able to sleep at night...but that doesn't mean Putin wanted an America First president that was calling out people around the globe for buying Russian natural gas and oil...come on...don't buy the CNN shortsighted line....no way in hell Putin wanted Trump to win...I’m being 100% honest. Putin hated Clinton. Hates her. The beginning of the Obama administration was one of attempting to work with Russia but that soon soured after they got no reciprocation of Moscow. By the end of Clinton’s tenure as SoS, she was criticizing the integrity of their elections and by 2012, Putin was facing mass demonstrations. He survived, but it was clear that Clinton’s policy towards Russia would be quite adversarial and believed that it would be one of attempting regime change.Colfax...answer me honestly...do you after all of the investigating really still believe Russia helped Trump win?....do you really think Putin would of preferred Trump over Clinton?...I can't see it...I can't understand how people can still believe it at this point...so tossing Stone in prison is just more piling on by angry establishment swamp dwellers....and take Trump out of it for a second...do you want those people running things again?...back to the stale old status quo?....why would you support that?...I don't get it....If Trump really wanted Russia to look for Hillary's emails he wouldn't of asked them to do it in a national press conference.....he was joking....wiki links said that they know where to find them so Stone looked into it and got ensnared in the whole mess...oh by the way did you see where wikilinks is now saying Seth Rich was murdered for leaking to them what was happening at the DNC?....this ain't over by a long shot....
I know you're focusing on the one comment, but there was a lot more to it than that. I accept that Trump was "joking" about finding Clinton's emails, but the campaign discussed the contents of her emails extensively prior to the election. This wasn't a joke. This was a big part of their strategy.
That's why Stone was looking into it. He was looking for advance notice and information that could help them form a strategy around this. So yeah, if you insert yourself into a situation where emails were stolen from one candidate and you're trying to use that to help another candidate, expect to be questioned about it, because it's a crime.
Oh, and Wikileaks has never said that Seth Rich was killed for leaking to them. They have said that Assange was offered a pardon for denying it was Russia, however.
Do you remember the 2016 campaign? Do you remember the things Trump was saying about Putin? He was praising him. Putin was praising him back. During the campaign, Trump was quite friendly towards Russian interests, although one could hardly say he had much of a foreign policy, it was clear to any observer that Trump was most interested in a friendlier relationship.
After all the investigations? All the investigations have basically confirmed this idea. Trump was their favorite candidate.
Why shouldn’t I believe it?
Sorry, but Putin hated Clinton. Putin’s first instinct is and always will be self preservation. He put himself atop a corrupt undemocratic state, which is a delicate place to be. It’s not surprising he would be concerned about the treatment of another corrupt totalitarian leader such as Qaddafi. Clinton was a Hawk. She was pushing for intervention in Libya. Given her history, a President Clinton might be pushing for regime change in Russia too.
As for natural gas, Russia had no reason to worry about that. Their exports to Europe have increased dramatically even under Trump. LNG is not market competitive with Russian pipelines without major cooperation and sacrifices from European leaders. Trump hasn’t been doing much there.
Its not CNN that I really care about. It’s the US intelligence community. It’s the US law enforcement. They’re the best in the world. Every one of them has come back with the same conclusion.