Trump promises much worse than water boarding...torture?

[Deleted member 53821]

Ah, the good old days...

I think if that was white then everyone in this country would be OK with it because racist should be exterminated at all cost but terrorist who actually want to do harm to our country should be treated like royalty.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I read it somewhere
There are all kinds of drugs that can create the sensation of suffocation and other panic inducing sensations

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

 

[bodecea]

Do you think they won't torture us because we don't torture them?

Nope. But question for you, is it good to be as immoral as others?

I'd rather be immoral than dead

And there you have it.....You should put it as your Motto. Pass it down...Family Crest and all.

IDGAF about legacy in all honesty it's meaningless

If it comes down to waterboarding some enemy soldier for information that will save the life of someone I care about then **** yeah waterboard him

I suppose you would let any and all of your loved ones die horrible deaths at the hands of terrorists so you could feel morally superior in refusing to waterboard the guy who could give you the information to save them correct?

How do you know you are getting valid information? Those who interrogate for a living don't seem to think waterboarding is effective.

But we know it's REALLY about inflicting pain, not getting info.

 

[bodecea]

Trump promises to get the U.S. charged with war crimes as soon as he's POTUS. Get the whole world against us....what a deal!...what a puke!....what a Christian!

The whole world is against us! It won't matter who we elect or what we do. I personally don't give a shit whether or not some puke in Britian hates us. It is a null issue for me.

This is what it leads to. So why not make them all suffer.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do you think they won't torture us because we don't torture them?

Nope. But question for you, is it good to be as immoral as others?

I'd rather be immoral than dead

And there you have it.....You should put it as your Motto. Pass it down...Family Crest and all.

IDGAF about legacy in all honesty it's meaningless

If it comes down to waterboarding some enemy soldier for information that will save the life of someone I care about then **** yeah waterboard him

I suppose you would let any and all of your loved ones die horrible deaths at the hands of terrorists so you could feel morally superior in refusing to waterboard the guy who could give you the information to save them correct?

How do you know you are getting valid information? Those who interrogate for a living don't seem to think waterboarding is effective.

But we know it's REALLY about inflicting pain, not getting info.

No it's not really about that at all because there are many things you morally superior types call torture that don't cause pain
And waterboarding is a panic inducing technique.

 

[bodecea]

I read it somewhere
There are all kinds of drugs that can create the sensation of suffocation and other panic inducing sensations

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

 

[bodecea]

Nope. But question for you, is it good to be as immoral as others?

I'd rather be immoral than dead

And there you have it.....You should put it as your Motto. Pass it down...Family Crest and all.

IDGAF about legacy in all honesty it's meaningless

If it comes down to waterboarding some enemy soldier for information that will save the life of someone I care about then **** yeah waterboard him

I suppose you would let any and all of your loved ones die horrible deaths at the hands of terrorists so you could feel morally superior in refusing to waterboard the guy who could give you the information to save them correct?

How do you know you are getting valid information? Those who interrogate for a living don't seem to think waterboarding is effective.

But we know it's REALLY about inflicting pain, not getting info.

No it's not really about that at all because there are many things you morally superior types call torture that don't cause pain
And waterboarding is a panic inducing technique.

So...support Torture. Just don't pretend you don't.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do you think they won't torture us because we don't torture them?

Nope. But question for you, is it good to be as immoral as others?

I'd rather be immoral than dead

And there you have it.....You should put it as your Motto. Pass it down...Family Crest and all.

IDGAF about legacy in all honesty it's meaningless

If it comes down to waterboarding some enemy soldier for information that will save the life of someone I care about then **** yeah waterboard him

I suppose you would let any and all of your loved ones die horrible deaths at the hands of terrorists so you could feel morally superior in refusing to waterboard the guy who could give you the information to save them correct?

How do you know you are getting valid information? Those who interrogate for a living don't seem to think waterboarding is effective.

But we know it's REALLY about inflicting pain, not getting info.

Everyone will eventually break given time

 

[Skull Pilot]

I read it somewhere
There are all kinds of drugs that can create the sensation of suffocation and other panic inducing sensations

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

And you accuse others of binary thinking

 

[Skull Pilot]

I'd rather be immoral than dead

And there you have it.....You should put it as your Motto. Pass it down...Family Crest and all.

IDGAF about legacy in all honesty it's meaningless

If it comes down to waterboarding some enemy soldier for information that will save the life of someone I care about then **** yeah waterboard him

I suppose you would let any and all of your loved ones die horrible deaths at the hands of terrorists so you could feel morally superior in refusing to waterboard the guy who could give you the information to save them correct?

How do you know you are getting valid information? Those who interrogate for a living don't seem to think waterboarding is effective.

But we know it's REALLY about inflicting pain, not getting info.

No it's not really about that at all because there are many things you morally superior types call torture that don't cause pain
And waterboarding is a panic inducing technique.

So...support Torture. Just don't pretend you don't.

Like I said before I don't equate waterboarding with the medieval torture you people do just like I don't think sleep deprivation or the use of drugs are torture

 

[daws101]

What is moral about war? How does one perceive and conduct a moral war? Regardless of how justified one pretends to be morality is thrown out the window in war. Is it moral during a war to hide in hospitals, behind woman and children, to engage in mass killings of innocent noncombatants? Morality in war is like Peace, aspired for, yet never attained within the context of morality. For those that walk the high road, preach morality, have never seen or smelled the horror of war.

There are no heroes - only survivors.

What movie did Rambo say that in or was John Wayne?

 

[bodecea]

I read it somewhere
There are all kinds of drugs that can create the sensation of suffocation and other panic inducing sensations

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

And you accuse others of binary thinking

Binary thinking if I don't accept that there are conditions. Maybe we just disagree on where that line is....or is going to remain if it is drawn.

 

[Agit8r]

He'll make them binge-watch Celebrity Apprentice.

 

[daws101]

He'll make them binge-watch Celebrity Apprentice.

not that!
anything but that!

 

[Skull Pilot]

I read it somewhere
There are all kinds of drugs that can create the sensation of suffocation and other panic inducing sensations

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

And you accuse others of binary thinking

Binary thinking if I don't accept that there are conditions. Maybe we just disagree on where that line is....or is going to remain if it is drawn.

I never said there wouldn't be conditions that was all you

 

[bodecea]

While youve been reading, I was too. I was interested in your comment that waterboarding causes no real harm.

So I googled waterboarding and health issues.

Seems like some damn doctors have determined that the huge release of stress hormones when you think you are drowning can trigger heart attacks. If you consider those serious.

then you have the issues of inhaling dirty water and getting pneumonia. As well as hypoxia and organ failure due to oxygen deprivation.........

But other than those issues and a couple others, it sounded like torturing someone with waterboarding was something we should be doing in the schools as a discipline appproach. (for the worst offenders of course)

I know you will like that idea?

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

And you accuse others of binary thinking

Binary thinking if I don't accept that there are conditions. Maybe we just disagree on where that line is....or is going to remain if it is drawn.

I never said there wouldn't be conditions that was all you

Where did I says there would not be conditions?

 

[daws101]

What is wrong with you that you can even think of waterboarding children?

But hey you could possibly have a heart attack but then again those are treatable medically just like pneumonia

And you can waterboard without killing the person it's been done and even if you think otherwise it still is

Why should there be conditions suddenly?

And you accuse others of binary thinking

Binary thinking if I don't accept that there are conditions. Maybe we just disagree on where that line is....or is going to remain if it is drawn.

I never said there wouldn't be conditions that was all you

Where did I says there would not be conditions?

isn't there always conditions?

 

[rcfieldz]

Everybody must wear a comb-over !

 

[daws101]

Everybody must wear a comb-over !

 

[S.J.]

Then you don't really have a point. First you say waterboarding them will cause them to torture us, then you acknowledge they will do it even if we DON'T. If you have a problem with waterboarding, fine, but the bogus argument you're presenting doesn't cut it.

You really dont understand this point? WtF?

You want to give our soldiers the best chance they can get to avoid being tortured if captured? Its a chance you are giving them. Not a ******* guarantee.

How come the military has laws against torture? You think they love their enemies. Is that it? NO.

the military brass opposes torture because they want to give their soldiers the best chance they can to survive if captured Does it always work? **** no.
Do we punish people we catch who tortured Americans? You could ask them but we killed them.

But nothing works always now does it?
If we torture, there is no chance that our soldiers will not be tortured.

If you aint smart enough to understand that, I dont know what else to tell ya.

Oh, I understand it alright. It's just not valid because anyone ISIS captures is gonna be tortured (no 'maybe' to it), so your idea that they might not do it if we don't is stupid. You're the one who doesn't understand. If the enemy knows they won't be tortured if captured, why should they fear us, and why should they think twice about torturing us every chance they get? The only way to defeat them is to illustrate that we are willing to respond to their brutality with greater brutality. Make the price they have to pay for their terror too high The rules are set by the aggressor. You don't seem to grasp that.