That's already been explained dozens of times on this forum. Besides, if you can't figure that out for yourself, you're just wasting everyone's time. You'd have to be seriously retarded or pretending not to know to ask such a question.
Trump orders immediate declassification of key documents in Russia hoax
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Damn some of you are just so unbelievably stupid. If that were really true, it would have been exposed long before now. The FBI and DOJ would be investigating that, instead of supporting the FISA warrants that were approved by four judges. How brain dead do you have to be that you can't see that?
Damn, when do you ever stop lying? I never mentioned anything about dates. I said he was criminally charged for lying. And I linked the charges for you to read. Can you read idiot?Dumbfuck WTP denied that Popadopolous was indicted for getting a date wrong.
Isn't it amazing that you're too ******* stupid to read what you link to?
{Defendant PAPADOPOULOS claimed that his interactions with an overseas professor, who defendant PAPADOPOULOS understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials, occurred before defendant PAP ADOPOULOS became a foreign policy adviser to the Campaign.}
That would be CIA asset Stephen Halper, you ******* retard.
Why be selective in what you want declassified from the Russia Investigation and not insist on it all being seen?
Are you going to support the President, when he replaces Rosenstein with a crony of his, who has promised Trump he will not release The Russia Investigation report of Mueller's to Congress or selectively cherry picks it, like he is considering doing now?
You said once before in another thread we were in, that you want to see everything...!!!
so if Trump stops that from happening, prevents the American people from seeing, at least through their Representatives, all that Mueller has been working because it implicates him or staff or campaign team, what will you do or say about it? Just be a sheep, and follow him?
bripat9643
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This is why debating you is an utter waste of bandwitch. You can't understand basic English sentences. Even the dumbest members of this forum understand what "all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state" means. Those are the laws of South Carolina.LOLOLYou left out this part, moron:”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory.”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory. The document you cited says they retained legal jurisdiction."I won the Ft Sumter debate, moron."
LOLOLOL
You crack me up, ******* moron.
How'd they turn over property rights when there was no property when the territory was ceded?
Now explain to us how Annapolis isn't really part of Maryland. Didn't the state cede that territory to the federal government as well?
LOL
Resolved That this State do cede to the United States all the right title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory
United States Military Reservations, National Cemeteries, and Military Parks
Are you ever not a ******* moron, ya ******* moron?
And no, South Carolina never retained legal jurisdiction over it either. You would understand that if you weren’t such a ******* moron. What they retained was the right to process serve criminals on that territory. The territory still belonged to the federal government despite your bizarre claim to the contrary. It still does to this day.
Don’t you ever tire of getting bitchslapped?
"provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state. or any officer thereof shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same and any person there being who may be implicated in law"
In other words, the laws of South Carolina were still in force. It explicitly retained legal jurisdiction. You have to be retarded not to understand that. Also note that this section refers to "land," not territory. The two terms are used interchangeably.
You keep trying to get around that section, but there it is, plain as day.
You’re such a ******* moron. No, not in other words -- in those words. That is not retaining legal jurisdiction ... that is what it says, which I actually addressed in my last post ... the right to process serve criminals on that territory so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in the fort. No other South Carolina law was enforceable on the territory.
And that clause was standard among the states ceding land to the federal government.
Reservation of Power to Serve State Process
The reservation which has usually accompanied the consent of the states that civil and criminal process of the state courts may be served in the places purchased is not considered as interfering in any respect with the supremacy of the United States over them but is admitted to prevent them from becoming an asylum for fugitives from justice.
The federal statutes annotated by William Mark McKinney, Doctorate of Law
You never feel stupid, do ya, you ******* moron?
You lost the debate on this issue, and you still can't admit it. What some scumbag leftwing lawyer says is meaningless. We can all read English.
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If the Dims want something declassified, they can ask the President to declassify it. They haven't done it because they want to keep the public from knowing the truth. You aren't fooling anyone with your bogus concern about national security. Since when have leftwingers ever given a damn about that?
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francoHFW
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No evidence of any such thing, excepting dupe world.
francoHFW
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and all investigated already. Nothing. Idiot.
bripat9643
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How many millions of documents do you think Trump should declassify? How can he declassify anything without being accused by douchebags like you of being "selective?" Dims are the ones who want to keep information hidden from the public. Trump has done nothing to keep Mueller from publishing whatever he wants.
Your post is the usual pile of horseshit.
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LOLOLOLOLThis is why debating you is an utter waste of bandwitch. You can't understand basic English sentences. Even the dumbest members of this forum understand what "all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state" means. Those are the laws of South Carolina.LOLOLYou left out this part, moron:”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory.”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory. The document you cited says they retained legal jurisdiction."I won the Ft Sumter debate, moron."
LOLOLOL
You crack me up, ******* moron.
How'd they turn over property rights when there was no property when the territory was ceded?
Now explain to us how Annapolis isn't really part of Maryland. Didn't the state cede that territory to the federal government as well?
LOL
Resolved That this State do cede to the United States all the right title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory
United States Military Reservations, National Cemeteries, and Military Parks
Are you ever not a ******* moron, ya ******* moron?
And no, South Carolina never retained legal jurisdiction over it either. You would understand that if you weren’t such a ******* moron. What they retained was the right to process serve criminals on that territory. The territory still belonged to the federal government despite your bizarre claim to the contrary. It still does to this day.
Don’t you ever tire of getting bitchslapped?
"provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state. or any officer thereof shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same and any person there being who may be implicated in law"
In other words, the laws of South Carolina were still in force. It explicitly retained legal jurisdiction. You have to be retarded not to understand that. Also note that this section refers to "land," not territory. The two terms are used interchangeably.
You keep trying to get around that section, but there it is, plain as day.
You’re such a ******* moron. No, not in other words -- in those words. That is not retaining legal jurisdiction ... that is what it says, which I actually addressed in my last post ... the right to process serve criminals on that territory so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in the fort. No other South Carolina law was enforceable on the territory.
And that clause was standard among the states ceding land to the federal government.
Reservation of Power to Serve State Process
The reservation which has usually accompanied the consent of the states that civil and criminal process of the state courts may be served in the places purchased is not considered as interfering in any respect with the supremacy of the United States over them but is admitted to prevent them from becoming an asylum for fugitives from justice.
The federal statutes annotated by William Mark McKinney, Doctorate of Law
You never feel stupid, do ya, you ******* moron?
You lost the debate on this issue, and you still can't admit it. What some scumbag leftwing lawyer says is meaningless. We can all read English.
You literally had to cut that sentence in half to make it state something it doesn’t.
The whole provision reads ....
provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated in law;
With the bolded text the part you left out. And I quoted from a book of legal annotations the meaning of that provision which explicitly clarifies the meaning is limited to process serving so fugitives can’t escape the law.
And here’s another saying the same thing...
https://www.civilwarhome.com/sumterownership.html
It is important to note that then - and now - the government refused to accept property where there was any other restriction. The state gave up all rights it might have in the property. Otherwise Congress would refuse to appropriate the necessary funds to build the installation. The States bent over backwards to make certain they got their share - and then some - of the Federal budget, including quickly removing impediments to the government acquiring title.
And it is important to note that the title given to the United States was fee simple, with specific notice that the property was exempt from any state or local taxes. Except for the qualification that the property could be entered to seize fugitives, the property passed in perpetuity to the Federal government.
It is important to note that then - and now - the government refused to accept property where there was any other restriction. The state gave up all rights it might have in the property. Otherwise Congress would refuse to appropriate the necessary funds to build the installation. The States bent over backwards to make certain they got their share - and then some - of the Federal budget, including quickly removing impediments to the government acquiring title.
And it is important to note that the title given to the United States was fee simple, with specific notice that the property was exempt from any state or local taxes. Except for the qualification that the property could be entered to seize fugitives, the property passed in perpetuity to the Federal government.
Now everyone here sees you’re a ******* moron AND a liar.
bripat9643
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LOLOLOLOLThis is why debating you is an utter waste of bandwitch. You can't understand basic English sentences. Even the dumbest members of this forum understand what "all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state" means. Those are the laws of South Carolina.LOLOLYou left out this part, moron:”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory.”
LOL
Resolved That this State do cede to the United States all the right title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory
United States Military Reservations, National Cemeteries, and Military Parks
Are you ever not a ******* moron, ya ******* moron?
And no, South Carolina never retained legal jurisdiction over it either. You would understand that if you weren’t such a ******* moron. What they retained was the right to process serve criminals on that territory. The territory still belonged to the federal government despite your bizarre claim to the contrary. It still does to this day.
Don’t you ever tire of getting bitchslapped?
"provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state. or any officer thereof shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same and any person there being who may be implicated in law"
In other words, the laws of South Carolina were still in force. It explicitly retained legal jurisdiction. You have to be retarded not to understand that. Also note that this section refers to "land," not territory. The two terms are used interchangeably.
You keep trying to get around that section, but there it is, plain as day.
You’re such a ******* moron. No, not in other words -- in those words. That is not retaining legal jurisdiction ... that is what it says, which I actually addressed in my last post ... the right to process serve criminals on that territory so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in the fort. No other South Carolina law was enforceable on the territory.
And that clause was standard among the states ceding land to the federal government.
Reservation of Power to Serve State Process
The reservation which has usually accompanied the consent of the states that civil and criminal process of the state courts may be served in the places purchased is not considered as interfering in any respect with the supremacy of the United States over them but is admitted to prevent them from becoming an asylum for fugitives from justice.
The federal statutes annotated by William Mark McKinney, Doctorate of Law
You never feel stupid, do ya, you ******* moron?
You lost the debate on this issue, and you still can't admit it. What some scumbag leftwing lawyer says is meaningless. We can all read English.
You literally had to cut that sentence in half to make it state something it doesn’t.
The whole provision reads ....
provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated in law;
With the bolded text the part you left out. And I quoted from a book of legal annotations the meaning of that provision which explicitly clarifies the meaning is limited to process serving so fugitives can’t escape the law.
And here’s another saying the same thing...
https://www.civilwarhome.com/sumterownership.html
It is important to note that then - and now - the government refused to accept property where there was any other restriction. The state gave up all rights it might have in the property. Otherwise Congress would refuse to appropriate the necessary funds to build the installation. The States bent over backwards to make certain they got their share - and then some - of the Federal budget, including quickly removing impediments to the government acquiring title.
And it is important to note that the title given to the United States was fee simple, with specific notice that the property was exempt from any state or local taxes. Except for the qualification that the property could be entered to seize fugitives, the property passed in perpetuity to the Federal government.
Now everyone here sees you’re a ******* moron AND a liar.
Uh . . . . moron, I didn't leave out the part you claim I left out. You left it out. It doesn't matter what a couple of douchebag lawyers say about the provision, we can read it for ourselves, and it clearly says that South Carolina would retain legal jurisdiction over the property.
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LOLOLLOLOLOLOLThis is why debating you is an utter waste of bandwitch. You can't understand basic English sentences. Even the dumbest members of this forum understand what "all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state" means. Those are the laws of South Carolina.LOLOLYou left out this part, moron:”The property was ceded, dumbass, not the territory.”
LOL
Resolved That this State do cede to the United States all the right title and claim of South Carolina to the site of Fort Sumter and the requisite quantity of adjacent territory
United States Military Reservations, National Cemeteries, and Military Parks
Are you ever not a ******* moron, ya ******* moron?
And no, South Carolina never retained legal jurisdiction over it either. You would understand that if you weren’t such a ******* moron. What they retained was the right to process serve criminals on that territory. The territory still belonged to the federal government despite your bizarre claim to the contrary. It still does to this day.
Don’t you ever tire of getting bitchslapped?
"provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state. or any officer thereof shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same and any person there being who may be implicated in law"
In other words, the laws of South Carolina were still in force. It explicitly retained legal jurisdiction. You have to be retarded not to understand that. Also note that this section refers to "land," not territory. The two terms are used interchangeably.
You keep trying to get around that section, but there it is, plain as day.
You’re such a ******* moron. No, not in other words -- in those words. That is not retaining legal jurisdiction ... that is what it says, which I actually addressed in my last post ... the right to process serve criminals on that territory so that fugitives couldn’t escape the law by taking up refuge in the fort. No other South Carolina law was enforceable on the territory.
And that clause was standard among the states ceding land to the federal government.
Reservation of Power to Serve State Process
The reservation which has usually accompanied the consent of the states that civil and criminal process of the state courts may be served in the places purchased is not considered as interfering in any respect with the supremacy of the United States over them but is admitted to prevent them from becoming an asylum for fugitives from justice.
The federal statutes annotated by William Mark McKinney, Doctorate of Law
You never feel stupid, do ya, you ******* moron?
You lost the debate on this issue, and you still can't admit it. What some scumbag leftwing lawyer says is meaningless. We can all read English.
You literally had to cut that sentence in half to make it state something it doesn’t.
The whole provision reads ....
provided, that all processes, civil and criminal issued under the authority of this state, or any officer thereof, shall and may be served and executed upon any of the land so ceded, or structures to be erected upon the same, and any person there being who may be implicated in law;
With the bolded text the part you left out. And I quoted from a book of legal annotations the meaning of that provision which explicitly clarifies the meaning is limited to process serving so fugitives can’t escape the law.
And here’s another saying the same thing...
https://www.civilwarhome.com/sumterownership.html
It is important to note that then - and now - the government refused to accept property where there was any other restriction. The state gave up all rights it might have in the property. Otherwise Congress would refuse to appropriate the necessary funds to build the installation. The States bent over backwards to make certain they got their share - and then some - of the Federal budget, including quickly removing impediments to the government acquiring title.
And it is important to note that the title given to the United States was fee simple, with specific notice that the property was exempt from any state or local taxes. Except for the qualification that the property could be entered to seize fugitives, the property passed in perpetuity to the Federal government.
Now everyone here sees you’re a ******* moron AND a liar.
Uh . . . . moron, I didn't leave out the part you claim I left out. You left it out. It doesn't matter what a couple of douchebag lawyers say about the provision, we can read it for ourselves, and it clearly says that South Carolina would retain legal jurisdiction over the property.
******* moron, you chopped up the sentence to change it’s meaning. Earlier, you added a period to end a sentence where no period existed in the actual resolution.
That you’re trying to change the meaning of that provision shows even you know you’re wrong, you’re just not man enough to admit it.
Not to mention, I’ve also posted two other sources saying that provision only allowed South Carolina to process serve fugitives from the law. You’re such a ******* moron, you’re actually getting bitchslapped again over the same points as last time, proving you’re ineducable.
Now everyone here sees you’re a ******* moron AND a liar.
Redfish
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Redfish
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Which is why Trump is desperate to get rid of Rosenstein.LOLFaun's attacks on meaningless trivialities are his greatest triumphs.
And by "meaningless trivialities," you mean *****-slapping your arguments regularly.
What gets me is the short attention span of the Trump kins. They have already forgot that Paul Manafort, Mr Swamp himself has already spilled the beans on dotard and his entire criminal family.
It’s not a matter of if dotard and the kids are going to prison but when and for how long.
bullshit, since Rosenstein signed the FISA warrants he should not be involved in the investigation of the legality of the FISA warrants. He cannot be both witness and prosecutor, that's they way the justice system works in North Korea.
Seawytch
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Bigger even than Manifort being a cooperating witness is both Cohen and Weisselberg being cooperating witnesses.LOLFaun's attacks on meaningless trivialities are his greatest triumphs.
And by "meaningless trivialities," you mean *****-slapping your arguments regularly.
What gets me is the short attention span of the Trump kins. They have already forgot that Paul Manafort, Mr Swamp himself has already spilled the beans on dotard and his entire criminal family.
It’s not a matter of if dotard and the kids are going to prison but when and for how long.
Redfish
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kyzr
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Bigger even than Manifort being a cooperating witness is both Cohen and Weisselberg being cooperating witnesses.LOLFaun's attacks on meaningless trivialities are his greatest triumphs.
And by "meaningless trivialities," you mean *****-slapping your arguments regularly.
What gets me is the short attention span of the Trump kins. They have already forgot that Paul Manafort, Mr Swamp himself has already spilled the beans on dotard and his entire criminal family.
It’s not a matter of if dotard and the kids are going to prison but when and for how long.
Dershowitz said that Cohen has attorney-client privilege, so I'm not sure what he says about Trump counts??
Faun
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Lawyers cannot hide behind attorney-client privilege to commit crimes.Bigger even than Manifort being a cooperating witness is both Cohen and Weisselberg being cooperating witnesses.LOLFaun's attacks on meaningless trivialities are his greatest triumphs.Well, he could end up like you fawn, the laughing stock of USMB...
And by "meaningless trivialities," you mean *****-slapping your arguments regularly.
What gets me is the short attention span of the Trump kins. They have already forgot that Paul Manafort, Mr Swamp himself has already spilled the beans on dotard and his entire criminal family.
It’s not a matter of if dotard and the kids are going to prison but when and for how long.
Dershowitz said that Cohen has attorney-client privilege, so I'm not sure what he says about Trump counts??
Seawytch
Information isnt Advocacy
Fox and Brietbart didn't cover this?Bigger even than Manifort being a cooperating witness is both Cohen and Weisselberg being cooperating witnesses.LOLFaun's attacks on meaningless trivialities are his greatest triumphs.Well, he could end up like you fawn, the laughing stock of USMB...
And by "meaningless trivialities," you mean *****-slapping your arguments regularly.
What gets me is the short attention span of the Trump kins. They have already forgot that Paul Manafort, Mr Swamp himself has already spilled the beans on dotard and his entire criminal family.
It’s not a matter of if dotard and the kids are going to prison but when and for how long.
Dershowitz said that Cohen has attorney-client privilege, so I'm not sure what he says about Trump counts??
A retired federal judge ruled that less than 0.2% of all the Michael Cohen documents are privileged
Seawytch
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What was the lie? What fraudulent information?
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