Trump & Middle East Peace.

[Bleipriester]

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

Um, the kind where the false narrative of the Arabs in Israel isn't included.

There is no palestinian people, there is no palestian state and if southern Syria wants any more land they can talk to Jordan. ;-)

More racism. Why is there no Palestinian people? because you suck Netanyahu´s dick?

Why do you give names which do not exist?
It is not racism to say that there never was a Palestinian People before the Mandate for Palestine.
Then, there were the Palestinian Jews, the Palestinian Arabs, and any one else who lived in the area, Druze, Bedouin, etc.

The Arabs themselves will tell anyone who will listen that there the Palestinian People, the Arabs, only exist as a nationality since 1964 in order to destroy Israel.

THAT would not be racism to you, would it?

According to this video in Arabic, all Palestinians can trace their origins to Saudi Arabia. Why, because they are Arabs, first and foremost.

Are you going to prove otherwise?

Even if that´s true, and it´s not, Israel exists only since 1948. So where is the difference? If you can´t tolerate the people that are living in the ME, it´s you who should leave, not them. There are other nice holy deserts around in the world, I am sure you´ll find a proper place to be a good victim there.
I see, you don´t even grant them the right to be a people but it´s them who are the aggressors? Rethink that bullshit. Both sides need to talk and find a solution.

"Even if that's true"

But you do not care as to whether it is true or not.

Why should the Jewish People leave their ancestral land, where they have lived for over 3000 years of recorded history, to allow invaders from 1400 years ago to take all of their land?

Next you are going to say that the Jews are European colonizers, which is the very opposite of what they are.

Jews are not victims. They are survivors.

Jews have survived 1700 years of Christian and Islamic attempt to replace them as THE one and only monotheistic religion in the world. The ONE which god has chosen for the end of times, etc, etc......

And Jews will continue to survive, no matter how many and how many times they are attacked, for the simple reason that both other religions have written such wonderful things about them like:

They have killed a god
They kill children for blood
They are apes and pigs
They must be found everywhere and killed.


SURVIVORS.

On their ancestral land. On their sovereign State.

Remember that.
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A people who only see themselves as weapons of mass Jewish destruction are not a people.
When you do bother to watch the video and understand what that Arab is saying, you may come to understand what so many other Arabs, Muslims and Christians also have come to understand. The Palestinian People were created as a tool to destroy Israel .

They deny that Jews are Jews.
They deny that Jews have a history to the area, of over 3000 years.
They deny that there were ever any Temples built on the Mount.

History says otherwise. Bout not the Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians .

And you cannot figure out why.

Read that list of Jewish surnames:
Category:Jewish surnames - Wikipedia

 

[Sixties Fan]

Um, the kind where the false narrative of the Arabs in Israel isn't included.

There is no palestinian people, there is no palestian state and if southern Syria wants any more land they can talk to Jordan. ;-)

More racism. Why is there no Palestinian people? because you suck Netanyahu´s dick?

Why do you give names which do not exist?
It is not racism to say that there never was a Palestinian People before the Mandate for Palestine.
Then, there were the Palestinian Jews, the Palestinian Arabs, and any one else who lived in the area, Druze, Bedouin, etc.

The Arabs themselves will tell anyone who will listen that there the Palestinian People, the Arabs, only exist as a nationality since 1964 in order to destroy Israel.

THAT would not be racism to you, would it?

According to this video in Arabic, all Palestinians can trace their origins to Saudi Arabia. Why, because they are Arabs, first and foremost.

Are you going to prove otherwise?

Even if that´s true, and it´s not, Israel exists only since 1948. So where is the difference? If you can´t tolerate the people that are living in the ME, it´s you who should leave, not them. There are other nice holy deserts around in the world, I am sure you´ll find a proper place to be a good victim there.
I see, you don´t even grant them the right to be a people but it´s them who are the aggressors? Rethink that bullshit. Both sides need to talk and find a solution.

"Even if that's true"

But you do not care as to whether it is true or not.

Why should the Jewish People leave their ancestral land, where they have lived for over 3000 years of recorded history, to allow invaders from 1400 years ago to take all of their land?

Next you are going to say that the Jews are European colonizers, which is the very opposite of what they are.

Jews are not victims. They are survivors.

Jews have survived 1700 years of Christian and Islamic attempt to replace them as THE one and only monotheistic religion in the world. The ONE which god has chosen for the end of times, etc, etc......

And Jews will continue to survive, no matter how many and how many times they are attacked, for the simple reason that both other religions have written such wonderful things about them like:

They have killed a god
They kill children for blood
They are apes and pigs
They must be found everywhere and killed.


SURVIVORS.

On their ancestral land. On their sovereign State.

Remember that.
------------------
A people who only see themselves as weapons of mass Jewish destruction are not a people.
When you do bother to watch the video and understand what that Arab is saying, you may come to understand what so many other Arabs, Muslims and Christians also have come to understand. The Palestinian People were created as a tool to destroy Israel .

They deny that Jews are Jews.
They deny that Jews have a history to the area, of over 3000 years.
They deny that there were ever any Temples built on the Mount.

History says otherwise. Bout not the Muslims/Arabs/Palestinians .

And you cannot figure out why.

Read that list of Jewish surnames:
Category:Jewish surnames - Wikipedia

What does that have to do with who are the indigenous people to the land of Israel?
Can the Arabs prove that they were on Ancient Canaan long before the Jews were?
Long before the other Canaanite people were? No.

I can post all the videos and saying posted so far about the existence of a Palestinian People, ever.....but you won't watch.

I'll post it anyway.

It will explain in a sense why Peace between Israel and the Arabs (from the Arabia Peninsula) who now call themselves Palestinians may never happen.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

Let me know when a bulb lights up

 

[Sixties Fan]

Historical record of how many times Jews/Israel has offered Arabs a State of part of the Mandate for Palestine

 

[MJB12741]

Why? Because the Israelis refuse to go back to borders that were never recognized in the first place? Because they refuse to give up the land where their Holy Sites are and where they were Forbidden to go before 2967? It's people with your mentality that won't allow peace

No, I am neutral. There is no difference between Hamas and the radical lunatics that control Israel. In fact, Hams even offered peace and recognized Israel.

Half truth
Hamas offered terms for a ten year truce. One which would allow them to regroup and rearm after their last drubbing.

Terms included such ludicrous conditions as turning over border crossings to Arab nations control, freeing prisoners and ending the arms embargo. LMAO

Yeah, Hamas offered peace LOL for ten years, and then what ????

Sorry but you are not fooling anyone

Nonsense. Hamas can make rockets, peace or not.

The question of the thread is: Can Trump achieve a Middle East Peace?

Will Hamas and the PLO get rid of their charters and come to the table and negotiate for a final Peace Treaty as Egypt and Jordan did?

Yes, or No ?

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

It's long overdo for Israel to abandon their entire Zionist agenda of peace offerings, security fence & land concessions & start treating the Palestinians with the same Arab country love, justice & respect the Palestinians are so well accustomed to --- And so well deserve. Don't you agree? LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Slyhunter]

wall them off refuse access to Israel to anyone who claims to be a Palestinian or who lives in the West bank or Gaza.

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Sixties Fan]

 

[Boston1]

Nonsense. Hamas can make rockets, peace or not.

The question of the thread is: Can Trump achieve a Middle East Peace?

Will Hamas and the PLO get rid of their charters and come to the table and negotiate for a final Peace Treaty as Egypt and Jordan did?

Yes, or No ?

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

Why in the world are you so behind in the times?

Israel has accepted a future Palestine. Offered 97% of Judea and Samaria.
You must have missed the part where the Arabs refused the offer.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why wouldn't Abbas or Hamas create the State of Palestine out of it? The Hamas charter holds the answer to it. Do you know what it says in it?

What kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

The kind the defeated side always accepts? What is offered them, with negotiations.
That is what has happened after every war in the world.
Germany and Japan accepted surrender and whatever help the Allies offered so that both could return to what they had been economically.

The Palestinians have had Billions invested on them to build an infrastructure and an Independent State. Somehow that money ends up in building tunnels and buying more and more weapons to attack Israel with.

In other words, neither Hamas, nor the PLO/Fatah will ever throw their charters of destruction of Israel in order to be able to create the State of Palestine.

And let us not forget the Arab League which keeps pushing for the destruction of Israel as well.

No, there shall never, ever be any recognition of any State of Palestine as long as what the Arabs want is to build that State on TOP OF Israel.

Your last sentence overwrites the prior parts of your post. Do you realize that? I only hear about Israel´s right to exist. But what about Palestine´s right to exist?

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

 

[Bleipriester]

The question of the thread is: Can Trump achieve a Middle East Peace?

Will Hamas and the PLO get rid of their charters and come to the table and negotiate for a final Peace Treaty as Egypt and Jordan did?

Yes, or No ?

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

Why in the world are you so behind in the times?

Israel has accepted a future Palestine. Offered 97% of Judea and Samaria.
You must have missed the part where the Arabs refused the offer.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why wouldn't Abbas or Hamas create the State of Palestine out of it? The Hamas charter holds the answer to it. Do you know what it says in it?

What kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

The kind the defeated side always accepts? What is offered them, with negotiations.
That is what has happened after every war in the world.
Germany and Japan accepted surrender and whatever help the Allies offered so that both could return to what they had been economically.

The Palestinians have had Billions invested on them to build an infrastructure and an Independent State. Somehow that money ends up in building tunnels and buying more and more weapons to attack Israel with.

In other words, neither Hamas, nor the PLO/Fatah will ever throw their charters of destruction of Israel in order to be able to create the State of Palestine.

And let us not forget the Arab League which keeps pushing for the destruction of Israel as well.

No, there shall never, ever be any recognition of any State of Palestine as long as what the Arabs want is to build that State on TOP OF Israel.

Your last sentence overwrites the prior parts of your post. Do you realize that? I only hear about Israel´s right to exist. But what about Palestine´s right to exist?

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

Drop a mike on Palestine and Israel will be gone, too, moron. You need to realize that Palestine is home to the Palestinians and recognized by most countries. Your fanatic slavery towards a small country far away from you is only ridiculous.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

Why in the world are you so behind in the times?

Israel has accepted a future Palestine. Offered 97% of Judea and Samaria.
You must have missed the part where the Arabs refused the offer.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why wouldn't Abbas or Hamas create the State of Palestine out of it? The Hamas charter holds the answer to it. Do you know what it says in it?

What kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

The kind the defeated side always accepts? What is offered them, with negotiations.
That is what has happened after every war in the world.
Germany and Japan accepted surrender and whatever help the Allies offered so that both could return to what they had been economically.

The Palestinians have had Billions invested on them to build an infrastructure and an Independent State. Somehow that money ends up in building tunnels and buying more and more weapons to attack Israel with.

In other words, neither Hamas, nor the PLO/Fatah will ever throw their charters of destruction of Israel in order to be able to create the State of Palestine.

And let us not forget the Arab League which keeps pushing for the destruction of Israel as well.

No, there shall never, ever be any recognition of any State of Palestine as long as what the Arabs want is to build that State on TOP OF Israel.

Your last sentence overwrites the prior parts of your post. Do you realize that? I only hear about Israel´s right to exist. But what about Palestine´s right to exist?

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

Drop a mike on Palestine and Israel will be gone, too, moron. You need to realize that Palestine is home to the Palestinians and recognized by most countries. Your fanatic slavery towards a small country far away from you is only ridiculous.

When Palestine becomes a country, the UN will let you know.

There is no slavery of Palestinians by the Israelis. What a nice image you have.

There is no point in so many countries recognizing Palestine (for oil/business reasons mostly) if the Palestinian leaders themselves have no intention of declaring Independence while Israel exists.

And there was no mention of the "bomb" in Boston's post.
That was your own conclusion.

 

[Bleipriester]

Why in the world are you so behind in the times?

Israel has accepted a future Palestine. Offered 97% of Judea and Samaria.
You must have missed the part where the Arabs refused the offer.

Israel left Gaza in 2005. Why wouldn't Abbas or Hamas create the State of Palestine out of it? The Hamas charter holds the answer to it. Do you know what it says in it?

What kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

The kind the defeated side always accepts? What is offered them, with negotiations.
That is what has happened after every war in the world.
Germany and Japan accepted surrender and whatever help the Allies offered so that both could return to what they had been economically.

The Palestinians have had Billions invested on them to build an infrastructure and an Independent State. Somehow that money ends up in building tunnels and buying more and more weapons to attack Israel with.

In other words, neither Hamas, nor the PLO/Fatah will ever throw their charters of destruction of Israel in order to be able to create the State of Palestine.

And let us not forget the Arab League which keeps pushing for the destruction of Israel as well.

No, there shall never, ever be any recognition of any State of Palestine as long as what the Arabs want is to build that State on TOP OF Israel.

Your last sentence overwrites the prior parts of your post. Do you realize that? I only hear about Israel´s right to exist. But what about Palestine´s right to exist?

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

Drop a mike on Palestine and Israel will be gone, too, moron. You need to realize that Palestine is home to the Palestinians and recognized by most countries. Your fanatic slavery towards a small country far away from you is only ridiculous.

When Palestine becomes a country, the UN will let you know.

There is no slavery of Palestinians by the Israelis. What a nice image you have.

There is no point in so many countries recognizing Palestine (for oil/business reasons mostly) if the Palestinian leaders themselves have no intention of declaring Independence while Israel exists.

And there was no mention of the "bomb" in Boston's post.
That was your own conclusion.

The Mike bomb is the largest in the US arsenal and there is no doubt about what he meant. Of course, the Palestinians are exploited by Israel but the actual slaves are you, the Americans. You don´t miss any opportunity to make idiots of yourself by defending undefendable positions. For example, when Hamas launches a rocket, that´s terrorism, but when Israel destroys thousands of homes, killing thousands of women and children in the process, its a good thing. Do you think, anybody believes your shit?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Your last sentence overwrites the prior parts of your post. Do you realize that? I only hear about Israel´s right to exist. But what about Palestine´s right to exist?

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

Drop a mike on Palestine and Israel will be gone, too, moron. You need to realize that Palestine is home to the Palestinians and recognized by most countries. Your fanatic slavery towards a small country far away from you is only ridiculous.

When Palestine becomes a country, the UN will let you know.

There is no slavery of Palestinians by the Israelis. What a nice image you have.

There is no point in so many countries recognizing Palestine (for oil/business reasons mostly) if the Palestinian leaders themselves have no intention of declaring Independence while Israel exists.

And there was no mention of the "bomb" in Boston's post.
That was your own conclusion.

The Mike bomb is the largest in the US arsenal and there is no doubt about what he meant. Of course, the Palestinians are exploited by Israel but the actual slaves are you, the Americans. You don´t miss any opportunity to make idiots of yourself by defending undefendable positions. For example, when Hamas launches a rocket, that´s terrorism, but when Israel destroys thousands of homes, killing thousands of women and children in the process, its a good thing. Do you think, anybody believes your shit?

As long as you believe your sh-t.

Go for it !!!!

 

[Bleipriester]

The State of Palestine has the right to exist as long as the Arabs do not wish to destroy Israel in order to achieve it.

Since you refuse to read their charters, all you can come up with is endless cries of
"It is Israel and the Jews' fault".

Are you ever going to recognize that the Arabs do not wish Israel to exist?
What do you think four wars from 1948 to 1973 were about?
How about all the other wars started by Hamas and Hezbollah?

your an idiot, there never was a palestinian state and if the Arabs living in the area designated as an Israeli homeland insist on living in an Arab governed area they can go to any one of the Arab areas in the surrounding countryside. Gaza, Jordan, whatever, don't care.

If the Israeli's would only apply the geneva conventions they could simply segregate the combatants and repatriate them to whatever the nearest debarkation point is. IE throw the bums and their descendants out. Israel has zero responsibility towards combatants as they DO NOT qualify as refugees.

BOOM
Mike drop.

Drop a mike on Palestine and Israel will be gone, too, moron. You need to realize that Palestine is home to the Palestinians and recognized by most countries. Your fanatic slavery towards a small country far away from you is only ridiculous.

When Palestine becomes a country, the UN will let you know.

There is no slavery of Palestinians by the Israelis. What a nice image you have.

There is no point in so many countries recognizing Palestine (for oil/business reasons mostly) if the Palestinian leaders themselves have no intention of declaring Independence while Israel exists.

And there was no mention of the "bomb" in Boston's post.
That was your own conclusion.

The Mike bomb is the largest in the US arsenal and there is no doubt about what he meant. Of course, the Palestinians are exploited by Israel but the actual slaves are you, the Americans. You don´t miss any opportunity to make idiots of yourself by defending undefendable positions. For example, when Hamas launches a rocket, that´s terrorism, but when Israel destroys thousands of homes, killing thousands of women and children in the process, its a good thing. Do you think, anybody believes your shit?

As long as you believe your sh-t.

Go for it !!!!

It´s ok to say shit here.

 

[USAF 2023]

The Zionist regime will not allow peace and Trump has no power over them but it is rather the other way round.

Why? Because the Israelis refuse to go back to borders that were never recognized in the first place? Because they refuse to give up the land where their Holy Sites are and where they were Forbidden to go before 2967? It's people with your mentality that won't allow peace

No, I am neutral. There is no difference between Hamas and the radical lunatics that control Israel. In fact, Hams even offered peace and recognized Israel.

Another lie. Read their Charter. They did NOT offer " peace" nor did they say they would recognize Israel. They " offered" a 10 year TRUCE demanding that Israel abide by ALL their demands .

 

[USAF 2023]

Why? Because the Israelis refuse to go back to borders that were never recognized in the first place? Because they refuse to give up the land where their Holy Sites are and where they were Forbidden to go before 2967? It's people with your mentality that won't allow peace

No, I am neutral. There is no difference between Hamas and the radical lunatics that control Israel. In fact, Hams even offered peace and recognized Israel.

Half truth
Hamas offered terms for a ten year truce. One which would allow them to regroup and rearm after their last drubbing.

Terms included such ludicrous conditions as turning over border crossings to Arab nations control, freeing prisoners and ending the arms embargo. LMAO

Yeah, Hamas offered peace LOL for ten years, and then what ????

Sorry but you are not fooling anyone

Nonsense. Hamas can make rockets, peace or not.

The question of the thread is: Can Trump achieve a Middle East Peace?

Will Hamas and the PLO get rid of their charters and come to the table and negotiate for a final Peace Treaty as Egypt and Jordan did?

Yes, or No ?

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

As long as the Palestinians don't recognize the Jewish State what kind of peace should the Israelis accept?

 

[USAF 2023]

Half truth
Hamas offered terms for a ten year truce. One which would allow them to regroup and rearm after their last drubbing.

Terms included such ludicrous conditions as turning over border crossings to Arab nations control, freeing prisoners and ending the arms embargo. LMAO

Yeah, Hamas offered peace LOL for ten years, and then what ????

Sorry but you are not fooling anyone

Nonsense. Hamas can make rockets, peace or not.

The question of the thread is: Can Trump achieve a Middle East Peace?

Will Hamas and the PLO get rid of their charters and come to the table and negotiate for a final Peace Treaty as Egypt and Jordan did?

Yes, or No ?

The answer is no. As long as Israel and the West do not recognize Palestine, what kind of peace should the Palestinians accept?

Um, the kind where the false narrative of the Arabs in Israel isn't included.

There is no palestinian people, there is no palestian state and if southern Syria wants any more land they can talk to Jordan. ;-)

More racism. Why is there no Palestinian people? because you suck Netanyahu´s dick?

We all know you want to. I bet you never sucked one that was circumcised

 

[Roudy]

Seriously, why should Israel trust a bunch of murderous Shiite IslamoNazis who are basically the proxy terrorist army of Iran's ayatoilets?