Trump: Israel, Iran 'don't know what the f*** they're doing'

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Good to at least see Trump be able to criticize the Israeli government… I was happy with the language alone that he used. Even if in the future he says something different I know that he is on record criticizing the Netanyahu administration. That means he ain’t a slave to Netanyahu.

we all know he has criticized the Iranian government. And you see that’s the thing he’s not criticizing Israel or Iran or its people it’s the government. That’s been the case all along that a fraction of “pro Israel no matter what” people simply don’t understand or care about.

 

[Rocko]

Heavy criticism directed towards Israel. /sarcasm

 

[shockedcanadian]

Trump put his political reputation on the line and he risked American lives plus millions of dollars in military bombs to take out these sites in Iran.

Imagine if two of the planes had been shot down?

In return for this, Trump expects Bibi to appreciate what he did and NOT make it worse for the prospects of a protracted war nor hurt Trumps political currency.

Too often men with big egos on both sides prefer to kill each other than find peace. It's different prior to the success over the last week, or going after Hamas. Bibi has to keep any rabid dogs in his government on a leash, he is hurting his own career and hurting Trumps credibility.

If peace is available and a threat doesn't exist, leave it go. Unless there is a real preference for regime change which it doesn't appear American intelligence wants, you take the win and move on in peace.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump put his political reputation on the line and he risked American lives plus millions of dollars in military bombs to take out these sites in Iran.

Imagine if two of the planes had been shot down?

In return for this, Trump expects Bibi to appreciate what he did and NOT make it worse for the prospects of a protracted war nor hurt Trumps political currency.

Too often men with big egos on both sides prefer to kill each other than find peace. It's different prior to the success over the last week, or going after Hamas. Bibi has to keep any rabid dogs in his government on a leash, he is hurting his own career and hurting Trumps credibility.

If peace is available and a threat doesn't exist, leave it go. Unless there is a real preference for regime change which it doesn't appear American intelligence wants, you take the win and move on in peace.

Well.....that's the shitty spin on it.

Seems that you're just against anything Trump tries to do.

If he cured cancer you'd claim he was putting doctors out of work.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well.....that's the shitty spin on it.

Seems that you're just against anything Trump tries to do.

If he cured cancer you'd claim he was putting doctors out of work.

Huh?

Trump wants peace and I agree with that. He made sure Iran doesn't have a nuclear program. He doesn't want Bibi or the Iranian Mullahs to defy the ceasefire now, he achieved his goal.

Where is my opposition to what Trump decided to do? He took a major political risk though as there are countless people looking to pounce if something ever goes wrong, his fault or not.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Good to at least see Trump be able to criticize the Israeli government… I was happy with the language alone that he used. Even if in the future he says something different I know that he is on record criticizing the Netanyahu administration. That means he ain’t a slave to Netanyahu.

we all know he has criticized the Iranian government. And you see that’s the thing he’s not criticizing Israel or Iran or its people it’s the government. That’s been the case all along that a fraction of “pro Israel no matter what” people simply don’t understand or care about.

Trolls like to use the word "projection".

Well, trolls, here it is. Projection, on parade. Feast your troll eyes.

 

[mudwhistle]

Trolls like to use the word "projection".

Well, trolls, here it is. Projection, on parade. Feast your troll eyes.

Marxists use projection as a tool or a defense mechanism.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Marxists use projection as a tool or a defense mechanism.

Shut up idiot, you don't even know what that word means. Leave talk of Marxism to educated people.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Good to at least see Trump be able to criticize the Israeli government… I was happy with the language alone that he used. Even if in the future he says something different I know that he is on record criticizing the Netanyahu administration. That means he ain’t a slave to Netanyahu.

we all know he has criticized the Iranian government. And you see that’s the thing he’s not criticizing Israel or Iran or its people it’s the government. That’s been the case all along that a fraction of “pro Israel no matter what” people simply don’t understand or care about.

Preempt and Prevail

Why should Israel trust Iran? It still has many conventional weapons to kill Israeli civilians with. It is ridiculously wishful thinking that Iran has been beaten and is giving up.

 

[mudwhistle]

Shut up idiot, you don't even know what that word means. Leave talk of Marxism to educated people.

Why don't you make me, you swelled-headed narcissistic POS.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Oh noes.

ORANGE MAN SAY BAD WORD

I need therapy.

 

[sparky]

At least Trump isn't Israel's b*tch like most of congress....~S~

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Preempt and Prevail

Why should Israel trust Iran? It still has many conventional weapons to kill Israeli civilians with. It is ridiculously wishful thinking that Iran has been beaten and is giving up.

They shouldn't. Else they would just shake hands and go about their days.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

At least Trump isn't Israel's b*tch like most of congress....~S~

He of course is, and he is probably the biggest Israel ***** in our government.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

If he cured cancer you'd claim he was putting doctors out of work.

Sacrificing Their Youth, They Stunt Their Talent

Oncologists should be put out of work. Because of their slavish and slave-minded training and emotionally suicidal sacrifice, they have neither the will nor the ability to cure cancer. How do they get away with their massive failure and still be looked at as our best hope?

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Preempt and Prevail

Why should Israel trust Iran? It still has many conventional weapons to kill Israeli civilians with. It is ridiculously wishful thinking that Iran has been beaten and is giving up.

“Sage” I gotta tell you buddy I love the entertainment when you give me disagree buttons and fake news all the time. Even though I’ve never done it to you.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

Trump put his political reputation on the line and he risked American lives plus millions of dollars in military bombs to take out these sites in Iran.

Imagine if two of the planes had been shot down?

In return for this, Trump expects Bibi to appreciate what he did and NOT make it worse for the prospects of a protracted war nor hurt Trumps political currency.

Too often men with big egos on both sides prefer to kill each other than find peace. It's different prior to the success over the last week, or going after Hamas. Bibi has to keep any rabid dogs in his government on a leash, he is hurting his own career and hurting Trumps credibility.

If peace is available and a threat doesn't exist, leave it go. Unless there is a real preference for regime change which it doesn't appear American intelligence wants, you take the win and move on in peace.

Well that is correct. And I’ll say that’s the entire point of this thread. Trump literally said

“ Israel, Iran don’t know what the **** they’re doing”

Bibi looks like he disrespected Trump. Trump looks like Bibis lapdog… Trump has gone way way out of his way to appease Netanyahu.


now sure there are some nuance in between the lines but internationally speaking around the world This is what a lot of people are saying. Netanyahu is top dog in Israel so it’s hard or impossible to imagine Israel striking Iran without his knowledge if that’s what your trying to say?

Government are in control of things here. What the people of Israel, Iran and America want often differ vastly from what the government says, at least in terms of international intrigue.


and on top of that the whole time Iran looks pretty weak. Iran has looked weak for some time now.

 

[BackAgain]

Well.....that's the shitty spin on it.

Seems that you're just against anything Trump tries to do.

If he cured cancer you'd claim he was putting doctors out of work.

I didn’t see shocked as having made that argument

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

At least Trump isn't Israel's b*tch like most of congress....~S~

That appears to be the case. Although there are plenty of people, including the anti-woke right who kind of disagree with that. Perhaps people like Candace Owens and anti woke lefties like Glenn Greenwald and Dave Smith.

Marjorie Taylor Greene has been critical of the US involvement in the Iran Israel war. No doubt about it This thing has caused a split in MAGA.

I voted for Trump in 2020 and 2024. I still support him. I know he’s a much better alternative to the insane radical cancel culture left. I don’t agree with what a lot of Trump has to say about Israel-Palestine. I like his stance towards Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates. I’m happy that Trump has taken a stand against both Iran and Israel in this recent cease-fire debacle

 

[shockedcanadian]

Well that is correct. And I’ll say that’s the entire point of this thread. Trump literally said

“ Israel, Iran don’t know what the **** they’re doing”

Bibi looks like he disrespected Trump. Trump looks like Bibis lapdog… Trump has gone way way out of his way to appease Netanyahu.


now sure there are some nuance in between the lines but internationally speaking around the world This is what a lot of people are saying. Netanyahu is top dog in Israel so it’s hard or impossible to imagine Israel striking Iran without his knowledge if that’s what your trying to say?

Government are in control of things here. What the people of Israel, Iran and America want often differ vastly from what the government says, at least in terms of international intrigue.


and on top of that the whole time Iran looks pretty weak. Iran has looked weak for some time now.

Trump bombed the sites in Iran as he didn't want them to have a nuke. They had 60 days+ to come to a deal and they failed. Sure, Bibi wanted them bombed but so did many countries. The IDF performed well to open up the skies for the U.S and the U.S military performed the miraculous.

Trump clearly doesn't want regime change from military means, he wants it to come from within. Bibi wants to bomb them out of government.

When Trump told him "I did you a huge favor and Iran can no longer enrich, it's time to get a ceasefire and stop the killing", he meant it. Some hardliners in Israels military looked for an opportunity to go scorched earth based on a single missile that was fired. This is was pissed Trump off. He is trying to make peace, not war.

Bibi now understands the red line. Trump dropping an F bomb is him saying what needs to be said. He is not fooling around, he wants a ceasefire.