Trump is THE model for a leader (Reuters poll result)

[bigrebnc1775]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Yup. It's a cult alright.

Complete with Dear Leader.

So caring about America is a cult? only enemies of America don't care about it.

 

[Meathead]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Seriously, where do you get this shit?

 

[DustyInfinity]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

"How he operated"? You mean, other than having an odd style, completely fucking normally?

Let's see. He pushed a little harder on trade issues, and deported a little more than norman.


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Norman who? Trump didn't deport as many as Obama. Not sure he even came up to Bush. If deportation is your thing, I have read that Joe deported around 300,000 in his first 100 days.

Kind of telling that you did not try to support your pretense that "how he operated" was so bad. You really quick to move on to some other subject.

Did you try a few times, and realize that you couldn't do it, at all?

I can cite about a million examples, from "unimportant" to "holy shit". I'll start with this one.

He tried to get the results of the last election decertified. This despite losing every election challenge and without any rational reason to do so. Going as far as saying during a rally that his supporters should go to the capitol to try to stop it. Something that turned violent.

I think that is both an unprecedented and wholly undemocratic way to operate.

That election, with it's insane level of absentee ballots, was unprecedented and questionable.

From what I heard, the courts refused to listen to the evidence and threw the challenges out on procedural grounds or legalistic technical reasons, not because the evidence failed to prove anything.

Calling for a protest to put political pressure on Congress, to take action he supported, ie decertify, is not unprecedented or undemocratic.


Trump is a fighter. That is unusual in modern times, at least on the right. But other than his style, he is a mainstream politician with mainstream political positions.

Trump is dumb, uneducated, lazy and belligerent. He not much of a man. He's always done things half-assed on a whim.. Look at his track record over the past 40 years.

You mean where he has been a success in three incredibly competitive fields?

Looks pretty impressive to me.

"Dumb"? LOL!!! Only a liar or a fool would say something like that.

His father bailed him out repeatedly because he's no good at construction and development. Trump NEVER does his due dilligence. He's had some success as a promoter, but he gets bored easily.

Building his casinos on the wrong side of town is an example. Trump university is another. He even cheated Veterans with his Trump Foundation.

He's cheated employees, contractors, vendors, investors and bankers and wives his whole life and has been involved in 4,000 lawsuits with second rate lawyers because he doesn't listen to them or pay his bills.

Three successful careers. Your nitpicking is dismissed.

Trump is a populist. His style was strange. But his policies and actions were completely mainstream.


That you flipped out, is you being radical, not a reflection on him.

They act like lower taxes and returning jobs to America were new ideas. Of course they also pretend the border is fine and that corruption doesn't exist, so what does that tell you?

 

[Indeependent]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Unlike yourself, I listen to entire speeches and interviews regardless of party.
You ever hear of YouTube?
100% of Trump's speeches and interviews have 100% consistent content so you don't have to pick and choose.
Please don't waste my time by asking me again to select one for you because you can later accuse me of picking the one time he was calm and spot on.

 

[DustyInfinity]

And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

 

[Mac1958]

And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

I wasn't at all surprised the border mess happened.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

You are a compulsive liar. I am ashamed that you're an American.

 

[White 6]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Yup. It's a cult alright.

Complete with Dear Leader.

So caring about America is a cult? only enemies of America don't care about it.

You mean like those that would mob attack the capital building to overthrow an election?

 

[Indeependent]

And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

I wasn't at all surprised the border mess happened.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

You are a compulsive liar. I am ashamed that you're an American.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

Post 2 and I'll be impressed; I read all of your posts and you haven't done so once.

 

[DustyInfinity]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

"How he operated"? You mean, other than having an odd style, completely fucking normally?

Let's see. He pushed a little harder on trade issues, and deported a little more than norman.


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Honestly, my problem with Trump wasn’t so much his achievements, of which there were not many. It was his technique.

Let’s talk about how things are done in the White House. Or really any National Leadership function around the world.

First an idea is proposed. Either to the President, or by the President. At that time the Staff gets busy. They start the research. Lawyers scour books to determine if the proposal would be illegal, or worse Unconstitutional. Political Staffers start talking to Congress, to see how they feel about the proposal in general knowing that most of these things can’t happen without Congressional Action.

Other staffers talk to departments. State for international agreements. Again Lawyers get started to determine if the proposal would violate any Treaty or agreement we have in place. Experts in regions begin to discuss what the proposal might mean to our friends, allies, and enemies. How will they react? Will it cause problems?

Now, all of this takes time. Finally when the proposal has been checked, double checked, considered and lengthy briefings have taken place, the announcement is made. The Press Secretary announces that the Proposal is being made. It will become policy. Delicate and considered leaks have already gotten the press leaning that way.

The President might make a statement, but usually it is handled through the Press Secretary. The Press Secretary is an expert in spinning the news to the advantage of the President.

Here is how Trump worked. Trump made a proposal. The Staff started to research and reported back that it couldn’t work exactly the way Trump wanted. So they would give him what they could. Trump would agree. But before the announcement could be made, Trump was on Twitter announcing the original policy would be enacted.

I always felt sorry for the Press Secretary. They must have felt like they spent all their time in a leaking boat bailing water out as fast as they could.

Trump’s big achievements were not big, and hardly qualified as achievements.

Take Trade. NAFTA was renamed USMC. But what changed? Cars are still being manufactured in Mexico and shipped into the US by rail. Everything manufactured in Mexico before the name change is still being manufactured today. In fact, Manufacturing was and is increasing in Mexico. Just as it was before the name change.

The changes to NAFTA in becoming the USMCA were minor. You would have thought that Trump had negotiated an end to war the way the damned thing was celebrated by in your face rightists.

This was the four years of Trump. His achievements were not all that impressive, and his polarization was enormous. After his first month in office, I told the wife somebody has to go and smash his phone to get him off of Twitter. Getting his message out is exactly what the Press Secretary is supposed to do.

Now, look at the Right today. Celebrating those cities, and states, that declare that they will not enforce Federal Firearms laws. Those same idiots were demanding that cities that refused to enforce Federal Immigration law be tried as Traitors and hung.

Their argument on weapons is accurate. For some reason that accuracy and truth did not sway them one bit in their war against illegal immigrants.

I told people before the election. No matter who wins there will be trouble. Because both sides had declared that the only way they could lose is if the other side cheated.

I’ve made this prediction before too. After the midterms, we’re going to have President Harris. Biden is going to step down, and give Harris two years to become the incumbent, and allow her to serve as President for ten years.

He basically wanted to rule through chaos, as where there is chaos, there is opportunity, but he could not achieve being a top down dictator, so chaos all the way down below him, just didn't work. No way for the leader of the free world and a large diverse country with constitutional and legislative norms to operate. He undercut anybody, everybody and everything at a whim, including himself to get his short term way and make the news, as if being news worthy was a goal. I got tired of his ass pretty quick, when after a few months, he had proved he would not grow into the job.
Biden won't step down. I don't know if he will run again as don't know if he would want to or be up to it at that time. Republicans pray for Harris presidency and they work on her pretty hard to make her look as bad as possible, cause they got nothing that sticks to Joe. They don't really have much on her, but try hard to disparage daily cause they might have to run against her. VP's mostly stay out of the limelight and she certainly should. I figure she's getting good training and counsel by Joe, but she has showed me nothing impressive, nor do I expect that she will. Joe is doing OK. Barring something unforeseen, would probably vote for him again. Definitely would vote for Joe, rather than a trumper, who could destroy the country as we know it, and make voting somebody out that needs to be out, a pipe dream of the past.

The problem with that is that Trump did not start the choas. That was the medias 90% plus constant attack over such things such as fake rape stories of supreme court nominies and the Russia Joke. Also, while your media tells you Trump was a top down dictator, you must realize that he gave citizens more power, not less. He confiscated less of their wealth, and cut government bs that made it harder for businesses to succeed. I think it is also worth noting that the democrats you love so much are the ones who locked their states down to no effect. Holy Cow, the people you admire destroyed two parent families and are letting criminals run wild. What in the H are you doing?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Yup. It's a cult alright.

Complete with Dear Leader.

So caring about America is a cult? only enemies of America don't care about it.

You mean like those that would mob attack the capital building to overthrow an election?

you must first have an open and uncorrupt election to claim someone tried to overthrow an election

 

[White 6]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Seriously, where do you get this shit?

Did I state something that did not happen? No. You did not watch the news. All those events were all over the news (mainstream, cable, alternative, internet, this board) and everywhere else.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

I wasn't at all surprised the border mess happened.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

You are a compulsive liar. I am ashamed that you're an American.

and your ideals are really progressively regressive

 

[Indeependent]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Seriously, where do you get this shit?

Did I state something that did not happen? No. You did not watch the news. All those events were all over the news (mainstream, cable, alternative, internet, this board) and everywhere else.

I don't care about 1 incident.
You were throwing shit at Trump way before it happened and believed every Attention Deficit Bite you were fed, so eat it or admit you were a fool back in 2016.

 

[Mac-7]

yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work.

Which makes Mac1958 a sheared sheep

 

[Mac-7]

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

Then you threw all your bright ideas in the dumpster and voted for biden

Because you were offended by Trump’s personality

 

[Meathead]

It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Seriously, where do you get this shit?

Did I state something that did not happen? No. You did not watch the news. All those events were all over the news (mainstream, cable, alternative, internet, this board) and everywhere else.

You stated what you know and what you think you know, the former isn't much and the latter is unadulterated shit.

 

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And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

I wasn't at all surprised the border mess happened.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

You are a compulsive liar. I am ashamed that you're an American.

All you do is peddle race crap and call republicans cultists. Your ideas are not only old, but proven demonstrably false. The 'it takes a village' garbage did nothing other than destroying families and create perpetual poverty. You call yourself a real thinker, but you hang your hat on ideas that do nothing but harm. If destroying families was not enough, now you guys are letting criminals run free. What the H are you and your progressives thinking?

 

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It must break your heart, that the conservative base of the country is flushing the Cheneys, Bushes, Romney & McCain types down the toilet.

We need leaders who will fight for what is best for this country. Leaders who will stand up to China instead of selling us out. Leaders that prefer peace and trade to warmongering. Leaders that love our country instead of preaching it’s racist and evil.

Trump is fine if you like congenital liars, thieves, nepotism, cronyism, rabblerousers, reckless abandonment of their oath to support the constitution, and willing to overthrow elections to win even if they didn't get the votes, and that attack anybody with an opinion different than theirs as the strive for a top down autocratic government model so they can hold their head up with their favorite totalitarian leaders they wish to emulate.
Of course if you believe in the constitution and rule of law, people like him totally blow.

Trump was a completely mainstream politician with completely mainstream policies.


Your hysterical reaction is evidence of how radical you have become, no reflection on him.

Your turning your back on reality and how he operated is evidence of why nobody will trust a trumper in the white house for 8 or 12 years, while they wander in the desert waiting for the meaning of committment constitutional foundations of this country to be re-revealed to them. They may stumble over it someday, but right now they are not even looking for it. They are lost.

Your posts prove that you never watched any of Trump's interviews or speeches.
It takes a certain emotional and mental instability to go in that path.

Always knew he was emotionally and mentally unstable, but did listen to him many times, read his tweet, but would never follow his path, cause it was a crooked mile with an uncertain ending for the country from start to finish, but would be good for trump.

but did listen to him many times

Don't even try to bullshit me...you listened to 1.6 second sound bites.
I have asked Ds like you to present a one minute, in-context audio or video to back up their assertions, and in over 4 years, not one has been able to post anything but an Attention Deficit bite.

I will admit, never listening to a whole speech, but don't feel bad, I did not listen to whole speeches of Biden, except for that inauguration speech. You think I missed the proper context? I don't remember a speech where he predicted what he was going to do before he did it. Did he say he would support Russia publicly against all US and allies intelligence services before he did it in Helsinki? Did he give a speech saying he supported our troops and allies in the field, but would agree with Erdigon and Putin to let Erdigon cross the boarder to attack people that fought with us? When was the speech where he said that if he lost the election, he would invite insurrectionists to Washington, rev them up at a rally 2 blocks away and tell them to march to the capital to try to stop the elector process? I did hear all his comments when he signed the budget passed by both houses of Congress and called it a great achievement (even though there was no money for his wall), but his didn't say anything at the time to reflect he would over rule the constitution on appropriations, intentionally and with forethought transfer money allocated by line and paragraph to rebuild military bases, and complete other needed, budget repairs, as well as funding for schools on bases for the kids of our servicemen and use the money to fund his wall project, which both houses of congress failed to pass.
If I missed the speeches where he said these would be his policies whether it was right or wrong, please link to them. I wouldn't want to think him a lying, thieving, puppet of totalitarian regimes, who would subvert or ignore the constitution without knowing he told us what he would do and he did it with full foreknowledge of the country, just because I missed one of his speeches.

Unlike yourself, I listen to entire speeches and interviews regardless of party.
You ever hear of YouTube?
100% of Trump's speeches and interviews have 100% consistent content so you don't have to pick and choose.
Please don't waste my time by asking me again to select one for you because you can later accuse me of picking the one time he was calm and spot on.

But if they are 100% or even 50% bullsh#t, where the rhetoric does not match up or relate to what they do, what good are they? His words mean nothing as far as policy and never have. His actions represented his policy 100% accurate, 100% of the time.
I am telling you he did not say he stood for those things. Normal people would not have supported him if he did. I am not seriously asking you to point me to a speech where he said those were going to be his policies, though they became his policies in fact and deed. You got to admit, calm and spot on is not his thing, he hardly ever stayed on script.

 

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The best leaders are stoic, never bombastic, steady, display humility, and never accept credit nor boast about how great things are. That's a real leader.

 

[Mac-7]

And the Trumpsters bitch and moan when we discuss him.

Biden is the president
But its obvious why you dont want to talk about him

Please feel free to start a thread and tag me. I'll answer any questions you have.

Do you have the balls to do that?

You Trumpsters just can't get it through your skulls that I'm not a sheep like you.

And yet you had no idea the border mess would happen and are shocked that democrats paid people not to work. To make it better, you peddle the race bullcrap like a complete sheep. You don't think outside the box, you don't think period. Tell us again the benefits of having the progressives in power.

I wasn't at all surprised the border mess happened.

I could post any number of examples of me squabbling with the Regressive Lefties over race.

I offer more original ideas than anyone here.

You are a compulsive liar. I am ashamed that you're an American.

All you do is peddle race crap and call republicans cultists. Your ideas are not only old, but proven demonstrably false. The 'it takes a village' garbage did nothing other than destroying families and create perpetual poverty. You call yourself a real thinker, but you hang your hat on ideas that do nothing but harm. If destroying families was not enough, now you guys are letting criminals run free. What the H are you and your progressives thinking?

Mac1958 thought he could swoop in here and spank yrimp voters till they mended their ideas

But that aint happing