Trump Is Going To Lose Most Of The Current Federal Court Cases....Then What?

[AzogtheDefiler]

Maybe you can explain to BackAgain why trump isn’t going to win the 14th amendment case.

Maybe you can give me your opinion. Do you think the amendment is poorly written and should be rewritten to where anchor babies are no longer a thing?

 

[Slade3200]

It’s not a matter of reinvention. It is simply correcting an error of interpretation.

There was no error. Why can’t you provide the definition of jurisdiction?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Unfortunately for you the 14th grants citizenship to people you don’t want to give citizenship to. You can’t just make believe your way out of it. The amendment says what it says

Yes it was a stupid amendment and when it was contemplated the persons didn’t envision the abuse it has received. It was written to give former slaves and their offspring citizenship and illegals and Democrats have abused it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

There was no error. Why can’t you provide the definition of jurisdiction?

It’s not an “error” it’s a disagreement because it’s vague. Why not put it to a vote? Have the American people decide?

 

[Slade3200]

Maybe you can give me your opinion. Do you think the amendment is poorly written and should be rewritten to where anchor babies are no longer a thing?

The amendment is pretty clear, and backed by legislative laws, SCOTUS rulings and over a century of legal operations executing on birthright citizenship.

If the amendment is to be modified it needs to be legislatively. Can’t just reinvent the language to make a policy work.

But yes, I’d support it being rewritten to give babies the same status as their parents

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

OK, the goobers admit they are mad that the 14th is not interpreted as they want.

They are foolish to think they can change it.

 

[Slade3200]

Yes it was a stupid amendment and when it was contemplated the persons didn’t envision the abuse it has received. It was written to give former slaves and their offspring citizenship and illegals and Democrats have abused it.

Well then it needs to be changed legislatively. Can’t just pretend it means something that it doesn’t. Anybody who even pretends to have respect for the constitution should agree with that

 

[Slade3200]

It’s not an “error” it’s a disagreement because it’s vague. Why not put it to a vote? Have the American people decide?

I’d be happy to vote in favor of changing it. But I’m going to call BS on people like BackAgain who are pretending like the 14th states something other than it clearly states

 

[BackAgain]

The analysis has been done

No. It hasn’t been.

and your argument to justify a new analysis makes no sense.

It makes perfect sense

You can’t even address the actual language of the amendment.

Not only can I; I did.

You need to make up interpretations instead of providing actual definitions.

Wrong again. I already did. You just deny things you happen to not like.

That’s a losing argument

Yours is no argument at all as that’s the losing argument.

 

[BackAgain]

Now you’re using an off topic strawman argument and a whataboutism… no room for that nonsense.

Wrong yet again. You’ve got a very long string of being flattering. There’s no room for that.

The truth is simple. I have correctly identified the intent of the clause in the 14th Amendment. You are unwilling and unable to address that.

It’s ok to admit that you’re wrong. It won’t cause you to burst into flames.

 

[BackAgain]

There is no solid or compelling evidence.

Wrong on both of your claims. As usual.

You posted a so called interpretation made up by a congressman

No. It was the historical contemporaneous claim of what the Amendment would do and wouldn’t do. You choose not to admit it, but that’s actually compelling evidence of how and why your interpretation of the Amendment is simply and clearly wrong.

and then dodge and avoided giving simple definitions to the actual language of the amendment

False. Nobody denies the words of the Amendment. The question, however, is what it means. That’s where you try so hard to evade reality. Tough luck for you. It doesn’t go away just because you happen not to like it.

That isnt compelling or convincing

It is. You just deny reality. That makes you far from compelling and completely unconvincing.

 

[BackAgain]

Unfortunately for you the 14th grants citizenship to people you don’t want to give citizenship to.

No. It doesn’t. That’s just your erroneously based misinterpretation.

You can’t just make believe your way out of it. The amendment says what it says

The Amendment means what it means. Your incorrect spin doesn’t control.

 

[BackAgain]

There was no error. Why can’t you provide the definition of jurisdiction?

Why can’t you simply admit your obvious error?

By the way, if you’d be honest (try it; seriously, it won’t kill you), you’d know I already did address one of the meanings of “jurisdiction.”

It was in one of the articles I’ve linked.

Basically, the language used in the Amendment means jurisdiction in the sense of allegiance to our nation. Legal aliens demonstrate it and must even take an oath to get the green cards.

Illegal aliens? Not.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The amendment is pretty clear, and backed by legislative laws, SCOTUS rulings and over a century of legal operations executing on birthright citizenship.

If the amendment is to be modified it needs to be legislatively. Can’t just reinvent the language to make a policy work.

But yes, I’d support it being rewritten to give babies the same status as their parents

The last sentence was all I was looking for. Thank you.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

I guess you can't even read pictures.

But the fact that you don't know what I'm talking about shows how uninformed you are. Typical MAGA knuckle-dragger.

give them a coloring book and crayons. You might be right King Trump. Oh, keep an eye on the crayons they will eat them.
Correct on JD as well

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Well then it needs to be changed legislatively. Can’t just pretend it means something that it doesn’t. Anybody who even pretends to have respect for the constitution should agree with that

Of course. But instead of Congress let the voters decide. National question. Popular vote wins it.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I’d be happy to vote in favor of changing it. But I’m going to call BS on people like BackAgain who are pretending like the 14th states something other than it clearly states

The amendment is so egregiously bad that people are trying every which way to challenge it. Why do you think the Democratic Party is opposed to changing it? Hmmm?

But yes. I am on record. Trump will lose that one. But only that one.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

They vote Dem

Every Bird of Prey Has Two Wings

They provide cheap and docile labor for Republican businessmen.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

OK, the goobers admit they are mad that the 14th is not interpreted as they want.

They are foolish to think they can change it.

Why not put it to a vote and change it? What are you afraid of?

 

[MarcATL]

Below is the current situation regarding all of Trump's Federal court cases. Trump is getting his ass handed to him right now by the Federal judges. --

Everything Trump is doing is blatantly unconstitutional. A 10 year old civics student can tell you that. Most of these court cases will just be laughed out of court.

What is Trump going to do when he ultimately loses most of these cases? Is he just going to ignore the rulings and become King Trump? That's my guess.

And his pathetic lackey JD Vance is already encouraging Trump to do just that.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/07/trump-lawsuits-executive-orders-actions-legal-challenges/

They're just going to call them "activist judges" even though most of the judges are Trump appointed.

Lemmings are gonna lemming.