Trump is CREATING a deep state.

[AntonToo]

Those who abuse their power using lawfare for political gain should be fired.

So first lets note that NO YOU CAN'T show any other president doing what Trump is doing now.


Secondly, which Inspector General, out of 18 that Trump fired without any real reason, did that?

Which of the thousands of lower level career people that administration is trying to push out, did that?

You are posting total Trumptard nonsense.

 

[Billiejeens]

It's not that we need a third party, what we need is common sense discussion and the ability to reason. Not every issue is black and white, and that's the problem.

We don't even agree on what the issues are.

 

[Modern Messiah]

OK, then tell us all about the “deep state”.

What is it?

Who is it?

What are its aims?

Oh, and try, try to present something that resembles a fact, instead of empty meaningless labels and tropes.

Deep state is when you weaponize the d.o.j., make up charges and illegally try to imprison your political enemies.
jack smith, fanni willis, leticia James are deep state. alvin bragg ring a bell?
The collusion delusion a.k.a. (russia, russia, russia) = deep state.
Shutting down businesses, firing people because they don't take an experimental shot.
Anymore brain busters.

 

[AntonToo]

Deep state is when you weaponize the d.o.j., make up charges and illegally try to imprison your political enemies.

Dummy you do understand that very few people in Federal Gov were ever involved in anything having to do with criminal prosecutions against Trump?

Even if all this half-baked garbage you are saying is true, even then you don't come within even a mile of explaining this administration shamlesssly installing politico loyalists at every level.

Trump has four years and then it's again a coin flip for a Democrat administration to come into power - what do you think they are going to do? Leave in place all the loyalists Trump put in? Nope, they are going to now follow the precedent and try install their own loyalists and what America will have from now on is this contnious cycle of politicization and enabling of loyalism over competent professionalism.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

Trump has long complained about what he called the deep state. He thinks the deep state is a wide bureaucracy within the federal government who, on the orders of some anonymous person, are working to prevent him from succeeding because they just don't like trump. He claims any pushback he receives is purely personal and has nothing to do with their job requirements or what is good for the country. If social media is an accurate indicator, rump's offer to buy out current employees with the stated purpose of replacing them with trump loyalists is backfiring on him. Large numbers of government employees are posting that they are refusing to take the buyout and are staying for the specific purpose of interfering with trump's policies as much as possible. What trump has long feared is becoming real, and it's all because of his overreach.

Neat story Bulldog, narrate however you need to pacify your deep level of TDS.

 

[Frankenstein]

Man. You guys really don’t understand how fascist you sound.

Your press is like Pravda shut it!

 

[Frankenstein]

I didn’t ask you.

But you gave the very sort of empty, meaningless, fact free BS.

My question was relatively specific.

Your response was empty silly made up nonsense.

My response is fact!

 

[Frankenstein]

He doesn’t give a shit about any of those things. He just plays to the hoary old right wing talk radio tropes.

B.S watch him go!

 

[TimFitz]

My response is fact!

Your response is empty made up meaningless drivel. Supported by nothing.

 

[TimFitz]

B.S watch him go!

He has a long track record in business, and a term in government.

He borrowed and spent his way through his entire life, including his first Administration.

I’ll predict with virtual certainty that his second term will be more of the same.

 

[TimFitz]

Deep state is when you weaponize the d.o.j., make up charges and illegally try to imprison your political enemies.
jack smith, fanni willis, leticia James are deep state. alvin bragg ring a bell?
The collusion delusion a.k.a. (russia, russia, russia) = deep state.
Shutting down businesses, firing people because they don't take an experimental shot.
Anymore brain busters.

You didn’t even try to answer the question.

Instead, you knee jerk labeled anyone Trump resents as part of a still imaginary “deep state”.

 

[TimFitz]

NYT.

Repeating yourself only underlines the fact that you not only can’t answer the question, but also that you made up a claim about the NYT.

 

[Modern Messiah]

Dummy you do understand that very few people in Federal Gov were ever involved in anything having to do with criminal prosecutions against Trump?

Even if all this half-baked garbage you are saying is true, even then you don't come within even a mile of explaining this administration shamlesssly installing politico loyalists at every level.

Trump has four years and then it's again a coin flip for a Democrat administration to come into power - what do you think they are going to do? Leave in place all the loyalists Trump put in? Nope, they are going to now follow the precedent and try install their own loyalists and what America will have from now on is this contnious cycle of politicization and enabling of loyalism over competent professionalism.

Very few people?
bite me (the president) instigated the lawfare against now President Trump.
It all came from the big guy and The American People rejected it resoundingly 312>226.
It's nice that you admitted to the deep state (cornpop) treasonous lawfare against President Trump though.
Your post is very emotionally driven, void of any real facts and you are lashing out childishly. It seems to me that you are more triggered than anything.
Your coin flip analogy is extremely elementary.
Again, The American People have spoken resoundingly, and all the swing states voted for President Trump. Once The American People saw the repugnant lawfare and censorship from you leftists they voted against it overwhelmingly.
They will continue to vote against it in the future.
Nobody wants the leftists censorship, lawfare, and indoctrination.
Your hate cult is getting smaller and smaller.
Wake Up before it is to late.

 

[Modern Messiah]

You didn’t even try to answer the question.

Instead, you knee jerk labeled anyone Trump resents as part of a still imaginary “deep state”.

I have given you specific examples of deep state treachery. I gave you specific names.
You just can't handle the truth, you have nothing to defend your ridiculous rants so you lash out in a childish manner calling people names.
It is not my fault you are so low information.

 

[Billiejeens]

Repeating yourself only underlines the fact that you not only can’t answer the question, but also that you made up a claim about the NYT.

Nope

 

[AntonToo]

Very few people?
bite me (the president)

Ok nutbag I’ll make it real simple for you:

Which of the 18 IGs Trump fired without any reason had anything to do with his criminal prosecutions?

 

[Modern Messiah]

Ok nutbag I’ll make it real simple for you:

Which of the 18 IGs Trump fired had anything to do with his criminal prosecutions?

I'll make it real clear to you since you don't understand.
The IGs work in the executive branch.
The President heads the executive branch.
President Trump is the President.
Ya with me so far?

Now! President Trump made the decision to fire the IGs.
That is within his pervue within the laws of the Constitution.
You should stop calling people names.
It just weakens your pointless arguments and makes you look foolish.

 

[AntonToo]

I'll make it real clear to you since you don't understand.
The IGs work in the executive branch.
The President heads the executive branch.
President Trump is the President.
Ya with me so far?

Now! President Trump made the decision to fire the IGs.
That is within his pervue within the laws of the Constitution.
You should stop calling people names.
It just weakens your pointless arguments and makes you look foolish.

So no, you cannot explain what 18 IGs Trump fired without reason have to do with his prosecutions.

So instead you bait and switch to another arument. But lets just note, that your prior argument has now been conclusively shown to be bullshit.


Now why your new argument is bs:

1. What I said wasn't about administration being ABLE to shamelessly install loyalists at every level, only that it's a very BAD PRECEDENT, which rewards reloving-door tribalism instead of experienced professionalism.

This is a turn for the worse for our government and it's ability to function well and reasonably transparently in the long term.

2. There is a specific Congressional law regulating President's firing of IG's and it required him to give Congress 30 days notice with specific reasons for firings. As previously ruled by courts, Congress has such oversight and consent powers over watchdog positions. By firing all those IG indescrimately and immediately, Trump blatantly violated that law.

 

[Seymour Flops]

This isn’t the first time we’ve seen faux outrage over this very thing.

McEnany: ‘No one seemed to care’ when Obama fired holdover IGs

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Tuesday that “no one seemed to care” when former President Obama fired holdover inspectors general from the preceding administration, amid an …

thehill.com

BY JUSTINE COLEMAN 05/19/20 10:52 AM ET

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany said Tuesday that “no one seemed to care” when former President Obama fired holdover inspectors general from the preceding administration, amid an uproar over a string of dismissals by President Trump.

“When he fired IGs – when several IGs came together and wrote a letter saying, ‘President Obama, you’re inhibiting our investigations,’ no one seemed to care then,” she said.

“But all of a sudden, when President Trump does what’s in his lawful authority, people are very upset about it,” she added.

You gals need some new material.

 

[TimFitz]

I have given you specific examples of deep state treachery. I gave you specific names.
You just can't handle the truth, you have nothing to defend your ridiculous rants so you lash out in a childish manner calling people names.
It is not my fault you are so low information.

You made it all up.

you like throwing a tired shopworn righ wing cliche (“deep state”) around.

But when asked to define the imaginary “deep state”, you won’t answer the question.

instead, you shout empty and false nonsense about Liticia James and the Russian-Trump connection.

So, what is the ‘deep state”?