Trump Has Not Expanded His Base

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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.


 

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Trump took the lead in Arizona last night.

Yup, caught up and over took Biden. Generic stats don't mean shit when it all depends on battleground states which in the RCP polling Biden's lead is down to 3.1.

Trump increased his lead in Texas yesterday to 1,080,000. Florida is a dead heat.

Trump is up 5.6% in Ohio and no one wins the White House without Ohio.

No one I know has won the White House when they don't take Florida, Texas, and Ohio. With an Arizona kicker.
 
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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.


Wrong only once in 40 years...

 

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In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.
Another key point is there are no valid third party candidates to draw off votes.

Looks like Biden has gotten most of those who voted third party
You needed a third party to draw off votes ala Clinton .........ooooops
 

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Based on current polling, Trump could more than double the support he received from black voters in 2016. There is also a big bump in hispanic support, a key reason he is ahead in Florida.

I would have expanded more aggressively than he did and promoted my successes more strongly with these communities. However, he still has much more support than he did before 2016 and increasingly black voters are paying attention to the GOP.

It's why I hear some state that if Dems win, Open Borders will be on the table again. It has been suggested that they need to replenish a group of new dependent voters, they can't win with Cali and NY alone. Maybe D.C and Puerto Rico will become states too...
 
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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.


It sure seems you lefties are desperately trying to convince yourself these polls are for REALS this time. You may not admit it but you know deep down Obiden has less than a snowballs chance in Hell without massive amounts of fraud.
Trump is going to crush this & you all will be pointing to your fake polls again, just like last time. You all sure are a bunch of suckers
 

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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.


 

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without massive amounts of fraud.
Speaking of fraud...

!

And these are just the ones they know about. Imagine how much fraud that we dont about, that occured for Obama and Hillary.
 

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In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.
Another key point is there are no valid third party candidates to draw off votes.

Looks like Biden has gotten most of those who voted third party
You needed a third party to draw off votes ala Clinton .........ooooops
Yet, none of those votes seem to have gone to Trump
His percentage remains the same as 2016
 

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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.


It sure seems you lefties are desperately trying to convince yourself these polls are for REALS this time. You may not admit it but you know deep down Obiden has less than a snowballs chance in Hell without massive amounts of fraud.
Trump is going to crush this & you all will be pointing to your fake polls again, just like last time. You all sure are a bunch of suckers
You might not be so cocky, if Trump loses, there will the same anger about potential fraud and the like.

I know this much, regardless of what anyone says, President Xi, Putin and their allies intelligence agencies will go full steam ahead if Trump loses. It would be a very difficult time for Western intel, I don't care what tough talk some show. Career politicians are what the West needs less of, not more.
 

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Even so it's going to be close. How that can be just blows my mind. Democrats were complacent in 2016. Somehow sure Americans were not dumb enough to elect such a horrible man. Hopefully they will never underestimate our collective stupidity again.
 

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without massive amounts of fraud.
Speaking of fraud...

!

And these are just the ones they know about. Imagine how much fraud that we dont about, that occured for Obama and Hillary.
Just shows how gullible Republicans are

28 million votes are not “missing”
They just weren‘t mailed back
 

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One big difference between 2016 and 2020 is that there are far fewer undecided voters. And thus far, they’re all moving towards Biden.

In the final RCP average of polls in 2016, Trump was at 43.6%. Today, Trump is at - ready for this - 43.6%! That’s pretty remarkable.

In 2016, Hillary was at 46.8%. Today, Biden is at 51.4%, a +4.5% swing from 2016.

In 2016, both candidates captured some of the undecideds, so their vote totals were higher than their polls. And Trump captured about 60% of them.

Today, only about 4% of the electorate remains undecided, and that includes at the state level. So Trump is in trouble.



No one ever said that massive propaganda campaigns don't work. Or that massive immigration wouldn't have political impacts.


Well, you dems said it, but you were lying.
 

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Even so it's going to be close. How that can be just blows my mind. Democrats were complacent in 2016. Somehow sure Americans were not dumb enough to elect such a horrible man. Hopefully they will never underestimate our collective stupidity again.
Biden has centered his election on winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Three states ignored by Hillary
 

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Speaking of fraud...

!

And these are just the ones they know about. Imagine how much fraud that we dont about, that occured for Obama and Hillary.
It's why I don't understand why Americans are so keen on mail ballots. Other than those in the military or physically disabled, why such a high number of mail ballots? Worse, so many that have disappeared?

Show up at the booth and vote, or don't.
 

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Even so it's going to be close. How that can be just blows my mind. Democrats were complacent in 2016. Somehow sure Americans were not dumb enough to elect such a horrible man. Hopefully they will never underestimate our collective stupidity again.
Biden has centered his election on winning Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin.

Three states ignored by Hillary
Then why was he in Minnesota yesterday?
 

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Speaking of fraud...

!

And these are just the ones they know about. Imagine how much fraud that we dont about, that occured for Obama and Hillary.
Just shows how gullible Republicans are

28 million votes are not “missing”
They just weren‘t mailed back
Im sorry, I didnt realize you were so intensely involved with every single ballot, and to the whereabouts of its destiny.
Your opinion must highly rated among the elites in controversial election processes.

States and local authorities simply have no idea what happened to these ballots since they were mailed – and the figure of 28 million missing ballots is likely even higher because some areas in the country, notably Chicago, did not respond to the federal agency’s survey questions. This figure does not include ballots that were spoiled, undeliverable, or came back for any reason.
 

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