Trump has dealt Russia a devastating blow. Deal for Ukraine’s minerals could effectively end the war



But this deal is a critical step forward. Russia wanted to diminish Ukraine economically, politically and militarily. With this deal, Trump has enhanced Ukraine economically and politically. Now, to secure our new investments, the United States must enhance Ukraine militarily as well."

Hogwash .
Russia will not concede any territory it has won and will probably continue the war until it has sensibly achieved as much as it thinks it can "get away with".
Unless it does turn out that Poots and Trumpfy are both Deep State and in league .

What do NATO really think they can do to stop that?
Nothing .

Russia will then automatically have most (70%) of the territory where Rare Earth minerals/metals are located .
What exactly can NATO do about that?
Nothing .

Russia might still bid to take Odessa for lots of obvious reasons, including getting a large share of Blak Sea oil deposits .

That remains much more problematic and could be one or more steps too far for Moscow . imho .
 
Putin is basically paranoid about his own people rising up and killing him. Arab Spring style....

HE kind of isn't threatened by Western bombs or tanks..

He is very threatened by EU prosperity.. Poland had half the GDP per Captia when it joined EU, before the war started, they had double Russia. Eventually the Russians are going to ask why they are poor and the Eastern Countries they used to run/own are now all much richer and have no resources...

Putin is very scared of EU... Far more than NATO... NATO allows him to keep power, i.e. the big imperialists are trying to threaten uu, Mantra.....
EU just exposing him
Yeah, I suspect the one thing he fears the most is the EU not turning tail and running. His military is shot, his economy is on the brink, and he's probably unsafe. He needs this to be over, with a win, and the EU can at least forestall that.
 
And, do what? Fund the WWI style stalemate for years? How many Ukrainians are you willing to see killed?

I leave Ukrainian lives for Ukrainians to count, if they have the will to defend their country against invaders, then who are we to count it for them?

We promissed them defensive assitance when they gave up their nukes, so when they are pleading for it we must keep our word, unconditionaly.

This war survives on the depleting Russian economic reserves. They are running out everyday. Everyday they are closer to the breaking point where most of Russians will come to understand that this "special operation" somewhere out in Ukraine is a big drag on their lives.
 
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Huge win for America and Ukraine
….now wonder dembots and Putin are so pissed
 
Yeah, I suspect the one thing he fears the most is the EU not turning tail and running. His military is shot, his economy is on the brink, and he's probably unsafe. He needs this to be over, with a win, and the EU can at least forestall that.
The EU can’t do anything at the moment , they are weak and dependent

Hopefully by the time Trump leaves the White House they will be self sufficient and not dependent on US taxpayers
 
Huge win for America and Ukraine
….now wonder dembots and Putin are so pissed

Ukraine's big win is that Trump didn't completely hand them over to Putin by cutting off all support prior administration was providing them.

Yep, this is what passes for a win with Trump.
 
The EU can’t do anything at the moment , they are weak and dependent

Hopefully by the time Trump leaves the White House they will be self sufficient and not dependent on US taxpayers

Cool story.

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Ukraine's big win is that Trump didn't completely hand them over to Putin by cutting off all support prior administration was providing them.

Yep, this is what passes for a win with Trump.
Yes Ukraine was smart to come to come terms with trump.

It’s a fantastic deal, good for everyone but dems and Putin
 
Yes Ukraine was smart to come to come terms with trump.

It’s a fantastic deal, good for everyone but dems and Putin
Gowd you are ******* dumb, Ukraine does not win by getting less support than it would have without Trump.
 
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You talk to Putin and know why he does what he does? ******* commie
No dummy, I simply know something about their invasions and underlying issues.

P.S. it's capitalist to you.
 
WAPO paywall but here's the article in total.

"The minerals deal negotiated between the United States and Ukraine is a devastating development for Russia. Indeed, it is in some ways more important than any peace deal President Donald Trump might negotiate to end the fighting. Once implemented, it will mean that Russia has effectively lost the war.

Russian President Vladimir Putin wanted to conquer his neighbor. Instead, the United States has just gone into business with Ukraine — entering into, as the agreement puts it, “a durable partnership” with Kyiv to jointly develop Ukraine’s untapped minerals and other natural resources and pledging “a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine.”

With this deal, the United States is now invested — literally, not figuratively — in what the deal calls “a free, sovereign and secure Ukraine.” That means the United States now has a massive financial incentive to help safeguard Ukraine’s independence. If Ukraine survives, the United States will stand to gain hundreds of billions of dollars; if Ukraine falls, we get nothing. After all, does anyone think that if Putin conquers Ukraine, he is going to repay the United States for the weapons we gave Ukraine to fight his troops? Of course not.

The deal creates “a Reconstruction Investment Fund” that will be jointly owned and managed by the two countries. Ukraine will contribute 50 percent of all revenue earned from the “future monetization” of all government-owned natural resource assets, including “minerals, hydrocarbons, oil, natural gas, and other extractable materials.” The fund will use this revenue to “invest in projects in Ukraine and attract investments to increase the development” of its natural resources, as well as “infrastructure, ports, and state-owned enterprises.”

Those who say Ukraine failed to win security guarantees in exchange for the minerals deal are missing the point: The minerals deal is a security guarantee. Trump has made clear that he is not going to send American troops to Ukraine. But with this deal, he is going to send something better: American workers, bulldozers and earthmovers.

“It’s a great deal for Ukraine, too, because they get us over there,” Trump explained during his Cabinet meeting Wednesday. “We’re going to be working over there. We’ll be on the land. And you know, that way it’s this sort of automatic security, because nobody’s going to be messing around with our people when we’re there.”

With the minerals deal done, Trump must now negotiate a peace deal that secures his investment by making sure the war ends — and never resumes. Ukraine’s minerals only have value to America if they are extracted from Ukrainian soil, processed and sold. If Ukraine does not have security, that won’t happen. U.S. businesses won’t be able to mine for minerals under fire from Russian forces and will not make long-term investment in Ukraine if they fear the fighting will resume. And if they don’t invest, American taxpayers won’t get paid.

Trump certainly knows that as soon as there is a peace agreement, China, Iran and North Korea will help Russia rearm — and that in time, Russia will reconstitute its forces and rebuild its defense-industrial base in preparation for a new offensive.

To stop that from happening, the United States needs to help Ukraine establish deterrence. And that will require allowing Ukraine to purchase the American weapons it needs to discourage Russia from ever restarting the conflict. The minerals deal creates a mechanism to repay the United States for the weapons we have given Ukraine over the past three years, but not for Ukraine to buy weapons in the future to defend our joint investments.

Jack Keane, a retired Army general, and I laid out a plan in these pages on transitioning Ukraine from an aid recipient to a defense consumer, and using frozen Russian assets and loans guaranteed by Ukraine’s natural resources to buy weapons. This will be critical if we want to ensure that the war never starts up again, and Ukraine’s resources can be developed for the benefit of both countries. This does not require a new agreement or action by Congress; the mechanisms for such sales exist under existing law.

But this deal is a critical step forward. Russia wanted to diminish Ukraine economically, politically and militarily. With this deal, Trump has enhanced Ukraine economically and politically. Now, to secure our new investments, the United States must enhance Ukraine militarily as well."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/02/27/minerals-deal-ukraine-russia/

Having a bunch of American companies over there rebuilding and doing business means Russia is less likely to make another attempt out of fear of drawing in NATO, but at the same time, there's no US troops on his doorstep (or, at least not in Ukraine), most likely in Poland.

Meanwhile, I'm sure Ukraine will be spending plenty of the money they get from trading with the US to buy American made military equipment to rebuild their military once the Uke midget is gone.

My fear is since Trump is not gonna be around forever and if the dems ever get in total power again we will see the same type of grift we did before, or worse, they will give the farm away to the Ukes.

I'm sure the MSM will complain that the price of eggs is still high. ;)








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But wait

You fuckers have spent months telling us that no matter how much money we send to Ukraine… the war is a lost cause.


Now you tell us that more money will WIN the war

I’m thinking you people should be ignored.
 
Gowd you are ******* dumb, Ukraine does not win by getting less support than it would have without Trump.
Huh? They got more support…under xiden and Obama they got deaths and destruction

Under trump they are getting peace and developing their natural resources
 
Huh? They got more support…

Under trump they are getting peace and developing their natural resources

They did not get more support, there is nothing in the pipeline since the last batch Biden sent as he was leaving office.

You just once again have no fn idea what you are talking about.

All Trump admin gave was some hazy promise that there will be some sort of assitance until Russia negotiates. You can compare that to steadfast support Biden/Harris was giving them.
 
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They did not get more support, there is nothing in the pipeline since the last batch Biden sent as he was leaving office.

You just once again have no fn idea what you are talking about.

All Trump admin gave was some hazy promise that there will be some sort of assitance until Russia negotiates. You can compare that to steadfast support Biden/Harris was giving them.
Of course they got more support! They got an agreement for a lifeline of suooort
 
No dummy, I simply know something about their invasions and underlying issues.

P.S. it's capitalist to you.
Underlying issues? Like “don’t join NATO”? Or does that one not ******* matter?
 
Underlying issues? Like “don’t join NATO”? Or does that one not ******* matter?

If you are going to throw in your two cents into the discussion you may as well read it first.

The claim was that Russia invaded mostly to get some more minerals. Which is nonsense.

NATO is at least a semi-serious claim, but it was primarily about Putin losing sphere of influence over Ukraine as it headed for EU integration on political and economic level.
 
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This idiocy doesn't deserve a response. This won't deter Putin in any way. Anybody with a brain knows Thiessen is a worthless, dishonest columnist.

You think Trump will care if Russia kills a few American construction workers? He will not. Trump only cares about himself and money, period. He has no allegiance to America's national security interests at all. Hell, Putin could take over Alaska and I doubt a deranged sociopath like Trump would care.

But it's ironic that you MAGA imbeciles are now quoting the WaPo.
All I needed to see with your post is that board racist, and TDS sufferer IM2, liked it. That means it gets fake news from me.
 
too funny

wtf believes this crap

Oh wait!



The Cult-of-Personality

I can see the dolts rocking o this. As if it's complimentary. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Russia will not concede any territory it has won and will probably continue the war until it has sensibly achieved as much as it thinks it can "get away with".

This is exactly why Trump win in Nov is extending the war.

Russia would have no hope for any real gains with steadfast American support for Ukraine a Democrat administration would provide. With Trump everything is up in the air.
 
This is exactly why Trump win in Nov is extending the war.

Russia would have no hope for any real gains with steadfast American support for Ukraine a Democrat administration would provide. With Trump everything is up in the air.
Three years…….Biden and Harris ******* instigated the invasion you dumb vapid ****. What were their peace proposals? Send them billions and half of it disappear? Great plan inbred
 

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