Trump fumes over flag flying at half-staff to honor Jimmy Carter during inauguration

[Man With A Plan]

This kind of a person can never be "illuminated"

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By the way and if you really want an answer to your question. Do this and you will get the answers that you are seeking from me. I am certainly not the only one with the same illuminating facts.

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It's obvious that you have no answers, Lucky. You get your "opinion" from CNN and NBC with their latest talking points about Trump! Trump will bring "chaos"! That's the best they've got at this point yet you lap it up with a spoon and beg for more!

 

[airplanemechanic]

Lying, vengeance, hate, disunity, etc.

Biden lied every time he opened his mouth. Why do you give him a pass and expect absolute godliness out of Trump?

What actual POLICIES do you disagree with?

And who does Trump hate? He loves America, that's all that matters to me. WTF is DISUNITY? You mean how Biden brought the country together, TO HATE HIM? He was the most divisive president in history. He made the racist Obama look good.

How about Bidens stupidity? Announcing the birth of his girl-boy grandchild during a press conference on the wildfires? Him banning drilling along almost the entire coast of the USA, almost cementing his legacy of having the highest inflation in 50 years?

Look, I'm sorry your party runs such absolutely horrendous candidates for office. But don't hate Trump for that.

 

[Luckyone]

It's obvious that you have no answers, Lucky. You get your "opinion" from CNN and NBC with their latest talking points about Trump! Trump will bring "chaos"! That's the best they've got at this point yet you lap it up with a spoon and beg for more!

You are entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to ever offer anything to support your opinion. At least, I show how others (that do research) see things. All you have is the opinion of a liar (Trump) and your own.

You are also good at criticizing others but you have nothing to back it up.

You truly are a waste of time. Trying to debate with you is useless. You orate and criticize exclusively.

No more. End of story.

 

[airplanemechanic]

You are entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to ever offer anything to support your opinion. At least, I show how others (that do research) see things. All you have is the opinion of a liar (Trump) and your own.

You are also good at criticizing others but you have nothing to back it up.

You truly are a waste of time. Trying to debate with you is useless. You orate and criticize exclusively.

No more. End of story.

And YOU DON'T CRITICIZE? You stupid mother ****** do you even ******* READ WHAT YOU WRITE? All you ******* do is attack Trump and then refuse to debate anyone who has the audacity to attack Biden. Yea, I criticize Biden BECAUSE HE ******* SUCKS. I hate the child molesting son of a ***** that gets away with the same things Trump gets charged for. Now, you happy?

You were asked NUMEROUS times what Trump policies you disagree with. You can't come up with a single one. This ain't about me, pops. It's about you. If you can't name one, admit you have ZERO reason to hate Trump and are doing it only because CNN told you to.

I'll back up ANY OF MY CRITICISM of Biden with FACTS.

 

[22lcidw]

You are entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to ever offer anything to support your opinion. At least, I show how others (that do research) see things. All you have is the opinion of a liar (Trump) and your own.

You are also good at criticizing others but you have nothing to back it up.

You truly are a waste of time. Trying to debate with you is useless. You orate and criticize exclusively.

No more. End of story.

There are no debates. Just one view versus another. A lot of wealth is destroyed now in the Los Angeles area and the excuses will be hot and heavy. Rich nations atrophy and destroy themselves. In most nations of the world those areas would never be rebuilt. And a percentage of this is top shelf money.

 

[Luckyone]

Biden lied every time he opened his mouth. Why do you give him a pass and expect absolute godliness out of Trump?

What actual POLICIES do you disagree with?

And who does Trump hate? He loves America, that's all that matters to me. WTF is DISUNITY? You mean how Biden brought the country together, TO HATE HIM? He was the most divisive president in history. He made the racist Obama look good.

How about Bidens stupidity? Announcing the birth of his girl-boy grandchild during a press conference on the wildfires? Him banning drilling along almost the entire coast of the USA, almost cementing his legacy of having the highest inflation in 50 years?

Look, I'm sorry your party runs such absolutely horrendous candidates for office. But don't hate Trump for that.

I dare you to prove that Biden lied more than 1/10th of what Trump has done.

I always say that the extremes are bad. Yes, Biden has lied but compared to Trump, he is a saint.

As far as all of your other statements about Biden, prove them. Prove he was the most divisive, the most stupid, and a worse president (worse than Trump).

I will tell (and prove) that the people that study presidents (the historians) do not agree with you. What makes you better than them at evaluating Biden?

In historians' Presidents Day survey, Biden vs. Trump is not a close call​

On the survey's 0-100 scale of "overall greatness," a rating of 50 means a president was average, while zero means a president is considered a failure. Only the top three presidents — Abraham Lincoln at No. 1, followed by Franklin D. Roosevelt and then George Washington — scored above 90. The drop-off was sharp from there, with no one else above an 80 rating. Roughly half the presidents were rated below 50.

Trump's overall rating was 10.92, easily the worst showing, while Biden's 62.66 had him tied with John Adams. Some of Biden's appeal could be due to the person he followed in the Oval Office: Trump was seen as "by far the most polarizing of the ranked presidents, selected by 170 respondents," according to a summary of the survey.

 

[john doe 101]

Biden lied every time he opened his mouth. Why do you give him a pass and expect absolute godliness out of Trump?

What actual POLICIES do you disagree with?

And who does Trump hate? He loves America, that's all that matters to me. WTF is DISUNITY? You mean how Biden brought the country together, TO HATE HIM? He was the most divisive president in history. He made the racist Obama look good.

How about Bidens stupidity? Announcing the birth of his girl-boy grandchild during a press conference on the wildfires? Him banning drilling along almost the entire coast of the USA, almost cementing his legacy of having the highest inflation in 50 years?

Look, I'm sorry your party runs such absolutely horrendous candidates for office. But don't hate Trump for that.

Trump is a rapist.

 

[Luckyone]

And YOU DON'T CRITICIZE? You stupid mother ****** do you even ******* READ WHAT YOU WRITE? All you ******* do is attack Trump and then refuse to debate anyone who has the audacity to attack Biden. Yea, I criticize Biden BECAUSE HE ******* SUCKS. I hate the child molesting son of a ***** that gets away with the same things Trump gets charged for. Now, you happy?

You were asked NUMEROUS times what Trump policies you disagree with. You can't come up with a single one. This ain't about me, pops. It's about you. If you can't name one, admit you have ZERO reason to hate Trump and are doing it only because CNN told you to.

I'll back up ANY OF MY CRITICISM of Biden with FACTS.

The criticizm I give is supported by facts, meaning that it is more of an evaluation than a criticism.

Every single person on earth criticizes something. Nonetheless, the criticisms that are valid are the ones that are not based on opinion but on fact.

In addition and I will say it for the 100th time, the problem is not that someone has done something to be criticized for but done it to the extreme.

Every one of us has good and bad in us. We are fallible as that is human nature. As such, you can always find something that someone did badly. Nonetheless, every extremes bring chaos.

Biden was not as bad as the criticisms state and I have proven that repeatedly. So many of the things he is criticized for were not under his control (such as the pandemic and the inflation that folllowed, given than inflation hit everyone in the world, and in most cases worse than here).

Your lack of evaluating all the factors (given that you are biased) stops you from seeing the facts, including the fact that Trump is the extreme of bad, given that he has no morals, ethics, principles, or humanity. I would venture to say that such a person is an extreme as most people have at least one of those four. Trump has zero.

Biden has been around publicly for close to 50 years and repeatedly he has shown humanity (100%) and in my opinion, he has also shown morals and principles. Ethics perhaps n,ot as he has lied on occasions, but to a small degree (unlike Trump).

Given that you have now given this same speech on two other occasions, I have to surmise that you are biased and not open to evaluate correctly the data, statistics and facts shown to you, which means you are not a debater or even a person that I have much interest in talking to.

If you are willing to debate data, statistics, and facts, which include the reality that we are all humans and that none of us is perfect, let me know.

 

[Luckyone]

There are no debates. Just one view versus another. A lot of wealth is destroyed now in the Los Angeles area and the excuses will be hot and heavy. Rich nations atrophy and destroy themselves. In most nations of the world those areas would never be rebuilt. And a percentage of this is top shelf money.

I disagree with you regarding debates. There is one thing that is certain in life and that is reality. The only way that you can be successful in life repeatedly is if you realize what the data, statistics, and facts are and learn to cope with them (not lie to yourself and others).

Views might win in the short term but facts win in the long run.

 

[Luckyone]

Biden lied every time he opened his mouth. Why do you give him a pass and expect absolute godliness out of Trump?

Not comparable. Biden has been a better person than Trump.

What actual POLICIES do you disagree with?

This isn't about the policies but about the man itself. Ever hear that selfish people have a habit of

And who does Trump hate? He loves America, that's all that matters to me. WTF is DISUNITY? You mean how Biden brought the country together, TO HATE HIM? He was the most divisive president in history. He made the racist Obama look good.

He does not love America. You cannot be a lover when you show so much hate (as he shows to all those that disagree with him). Unity is what is needed for a nation to be successful. You think that our Civil War was not a negative to our country.

Disunity means you are fighting each other and not working together. Both need to give and receive equal amounts.

How about Bidens stupidity? Announcing the birth of his girl-boy grandchild during a press conference on the wildfires? Him banning drilling along almost the entire coast of the USA, almost cementing his legacy of having the highest inflation in 50 years?

Look, I'm sorry your party runs such absolutely horrendous candidates for office. But don't hate Trump for that.

Remember one thins about Trump. He is a narcissist. He loves himself above everything else.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I've always respected Jimmy Carter. He dedicated himself to charity once he left the Oval Office, building houses for Habitat For Humanity for decades. Did I think he was a great President? Not really. It was an office that he didn't seem well prepared for and it showed.

That is meechingly better, but better nevertheless.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And YOU DON'T CRITICIZE? You stupid mother ****** do you even ******* READ WHAT YOU WRITE? All you ******* do is attack Trump and then refuse to debate anyone who has the audacity to attack Biden. Yea, I criticize Biden BECAUSE HE ******* SUCKS. I hate the child molesting son of a ***** that gets away with the same things Trump gets charged for. Now, you happy?

You were asked NUMEROUS times what Trump policies you disagree with. You can't come up with a single one. This ain't about me, pops. It's about you. If you can't name one, admit you have ZERO reason to hate Trump and are doing it only because CNN told you to.

I'll back up ANY OF MY CRITICISM of Biden with FACTS.

Trump's major problem is that he won't keep his word. He turns on his own. He is a narcissist, and in a President that could be deadly to all of us.

 

[Man With A Plan]

You are entitled to your opinion, but you have yet to ever offer anything to support your opinion. At least, I show how others (that do research) see things. All you have is the opinion of a liar (Trump) and your own.

You are also good at criticizing others but you have nothing to back it up.

You truly are a waste of time. Trying to debate with you is useless. You orate and criticize exclusively.

No more. End of story.

Would you like me back up my opinion on Trump? I'd be more than willing to do just that, Lucky. Unlike you I don't base my opinions on feelings.

Facts? It's a FACT that before Covid shut down the world Trump was giving Americans historically good economic numbers!

Variable	2014	2019
Poverty rate %	14.8%	10.5%
Real median household income $	$56,969	$68,703
Real wage growth %	0.4%	1.3%
Productivity growth %	0.9%	1.6%

 

[Man With A Plan]

Trump is a rapist.

George S. claimed that and it cost him and his network 15 million dollars, John! It's what happens when you tell lies about people.

 

[Luckyone]

Would you like me back up my opinion on Trump? I'd be more than willing to do just that, Lucky. Unlike you I don't base my opinions on feelings.

Facts? It's a FACT that before Covid shut down the world Trump was giving Americans historically good economic numbers!

Variable	2014	2019
Poverty rate %	14.8%	10.5%
Real median household income $	$56,969	$68,703
Real wage growth %	0.4%	1.3%
Productivity growth %	0.9%	1.6%

First of all, comparing 2014 with 2019 is not fair because Obama inherited a depression and it took him years to get it moving higher. As such, if you want to compare the presidents fairly, you need to compare 2016 to 2019 and here are the numbers.

In 2016 the poverty rate was 12.5%, the median was $59, 900, the real wage growth was 14.3% and the productivity growth was 1.1%. As such, yes things got better under Trump but then again, the Trump inherited an economy that was growins as in 2008, the poverty rate was 13.9, the real median household income was $50,303, the real wage growth % was -.01% and productivity growth was -.4%. As such, Obama inherited a bad situation (caused by Bush Jr) and made the economy RECOVER. Trump just kept the growth up and did it exclusively because of the tax cuts (which helps short term but hurts long term).

Further comparison using Clinton, shows that he did better than Trump and did it without tax cuts.

In 1997, when Clinton became president, the poverty rate was at 13.7% but when he left it was 13.3%, the real median household income was $37.005 but when he left it was $42,228, the real wage growth went from 3.6% to 4.8% and the productivity growth was 2.7%.

When you compare these 3 presidents, Clinton is #1 (especially since we had no National Debt), Obama was #2 (because he brought us out of a recession) and #3 was Trump (that generated a temporary boost but not a longer term boost).

Everything in life needs to be compared. This is what historians do and how they come up with their evaluations as to where the presidents rank, and Trump ranks last.

 

[Man With A Plan]

First of all, comparing 2014 with 2019 is not fair because Obama inherited a depression and it took him years to get it moving higher. As such, if you want to compare the presidents fairly, you need to compare 2016 to 2019 and here are the numbers.

In 2016 the poverty rate was 12.5%, the median was $59, 900, the real wage growth was 14.3% and the productivity growth was 1.1%. As such, yes things got better under Trump but then again, the Trump inherited an economy that was growins as in 2008, the poverty rate was 13.9, the real median household income was $50,303, the real wage growth % was -.01% and productivity growth was -.4%. As such, Obama inherited a bad situation (caused by Bush Jr) and made the economy RECOVER. Trump just kept the growth up and did it exclusively because of the tax cuts (which helps short term but hurts long term).

Further comparison using Clinton, shows that he did better than Trump and did it without tax cuts.

In 1997, when Clinton became president, the poverty rate was at 13.7% but when he left it was 13.3%, the real median household income was $37.005 but when he left it was $42,228, the real wage growth went from 3.6% to 4.8% and the productivity growth was 2.7%.

When you compare these 3 presidents, Clinton is #1 (especially since we had no National Debt), Obama was #2 (because he brought us out of a recession) and #3 was Trump (that generated a temporary boost but not a longer term boost).

Everything in life needs to be compared. This is what historians do and how they come up with their evaluations as to where the presidents rank, and Trump ranks last.

The FACT is Barack Obama oversaw the slowest recovery from a recession in recent history...a recovery so slow that it was called The Great Recession! His economy was so anemic that the Fed had to keep interest rates at near zero for the longest period of time in the history of the Federal Reserve. Trump by comparison had interest rates raised four times by the Fed because his economy was getting too overheated. If you know anything about Economics that alone tells you who was effective with their economic policy and who was not!

 

[Man With A Plan]

First of all, comparing 2014 with 2019 is not fair because Obama inherited a depression and it took him years to get it moving higher. As such, if you want to compare the presidents fairly, you need to compare 2016 to 2019 and here are the numbers.

In 2016 the poverty rate was 12.5%, the median was $59, 900, the real wage growth was 14.3% and the productivity growth was 1.1%. As such, yes things got better under Trump but then again, the Trump inherited an economy that was growins as in 2008, the poverty rate was 13.9, the real median household income was $50,303, the real wage growth % was -.01% and productivity growth was -.4%. As such, Obama inherited a bad situation (caused by Bush Jr) and made the economy RECOVER. Trump just kept the growth up and did it exclusively because of the tax cuts (which helps short term but hurts long term).

Further comparison using Clinton, shows that he did better than Trump and did it without tax cuts.

In 1997, when Clinton became president, the poverty rate was at 13.7% but when he left it was 13.3%, the real median household income was $37.005 but when he left it was $42,228, the real wage growth went from 3.6% to 4.8% and the productivity growth was 2.7%.

When you compare these 3 presidents, Clinton is #1 (especially since we had no National Debt), Obama was #2 (because he brought us out of a recession) and #3 was Trump (that generated a temporary boost but not a longer term boost).

Everything in life needs to be compared. This is what historians do and how they come up with their evaluations as to where the presidents rank, and Trump ranks last.

Why you think we had no National Debt under Bill Clinton baffles me. What led you to that conclusion?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

George S. claimed that and it cost him and his network 15 million dollars, John! It's what happens when you tell lies about people.

Compare your rates of 2019 with 2024.

 

[Luckyone]

Why you think we had no National Debt under Bill Clinton baffles me. What led you to that conclusion?

I did not say we had no debt, I said he was the only president in the last 50 years that reduced the debt. It did not go up (went down)

during his presidency

 

[john doe 101]

George S. claimed that and it cost him and his network 15 million dollars, John! It's what happens when you tell lies about people.

You must support rapists you voted one into the wh.