Trump doubles down on proposal to move Gazans; insists Egypt and Jordan will agree

[Woodznutz]

Like Oct 7th and the Holocaust.

The Holocaust * is a footnote to WW2.

*Of the 75 million killed in WW2 only 6 million were Jews.

 

[Woodznutz]

Like the Ukraine war? the one Trump stopped on Jan 21? 24 hours after being sworn in?

He's already been talking to Zelensky about giving up territory to end the war. Z is thinking about it.

 

[Shusha]

Apparently, Ahmed Yassin's parents forgot to indoctrinate their son (one of the founders of Hamas, no less):

We don't fight and hate the Jews because they are Jews.
...
if he takes my home and expels me from my land I will fight him.

I will fight my brother.​

Here is the problem with the above statement: Where is the Jewish home and the Jewish land?

 

[Shusha]

You are just acting like Nazi Germany after it invaded it's neighbors!

Gaza invaded Israel on October 7, not the other way around.

 

[Shusha]

An issue, the forceful removal of a group of people is generally considered an act of genocide.

Not if it's voluntary. They can't have their "open air prison" cake and then complain when Gazans voluntarily leave for a better life elsewhere.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The Palestinians are a mentally deranged people that pass their Derangement on generation to generation. They foment revolution wherever they go. They destroyed Lebanon and Jordan. They didn't even bother blaming Jews. No one wants them because of it.

There is no such thing as beating them so badly they cannot mount an attack as a way to peace. There can never be peace. They will merely marinate until the next attack.

Midnight at the Oases

The Paleonasties will launch attacks from Egypt, where the Moslem Brotherhood underground was the sole source of the October attacks, not Iran.

The only safety for Israel is if these desert apes are all deported to North Africa: Algeria, Tunisia, and Libya.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Trump is under orders from the Zionist regime, these are not Trump's ideas, the Zionists have been seeking ways to ethnically cleans the remaining Palestinians (from 1948) so they can "settle" in that area, build hotels and make lots of money.

They already stole Gaza's offshore oil and now they want to create a pretext for forcibly displacing millions from Gaza, why else would the world's most capable intelligence service allow Hamas to attack them on Oct 7th?

Understand, Trump is being subjected to a barrage from the Israelis, they will hound him as they once did Truman, until they get their way.

The US is weak, emasculated when it comes to Israel, why else would a hugely powerful nation like the US give a shit about a bunch of deranged stone age throwbacks? that's all the Israelis are, demonic, evil brutes who are driven by racial superiority.

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Industrial-Strength Drano

The Adolfins' favorite dirtbags need to be cleansed.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Maybe he will send the Palestinians to Greenland.

Let the Penguins Be the New Jews

Too many people to mass-murder there. Uninhabited Antarctica is the best place for these theocratic thrill-killers.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Not if it's voluntary.

True. I don't think thats being discussed here though.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

No, relocating a million people is not a sensible solution. It is a solution a child would come up with.
If our President would actually consult with his own experts and consult with other nations being affected, he would quickly be talked out of it before he looks like an idiot

Other nations are laughing at us

Colombia is not laughing.

 

[toomuchtime_]

True. I don't think thats being discussed here though.

Of course it is. No one is talking about marching the Palestinians out at gun point.

One in four Palestinians wanted to leave West Bank, Gaza before war - poll​

A poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research (PCPSR), which collected data from just before Hamas’s October 7 attacks on southern Israel, found that one in four Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank wanted to emigrate.

The poll, which was published at the end of June, found the Palestinian desire to leave the territories was similar to levels recorded in 2021.

In 2021, 33% of Gazans and 20% of Palestinians in the West Bank wanted to emigrate, while last year 31% of Gazans and 21% of Palestinians in the West Bank said the same.

Demographic differences in those wanting to stay and leave​

In the West Bank, 28% of Palestinian adults under the age of 30 said they would like to emigrate elsewhere.

In Gaza, 44% of adults under the age of 30 said that they wanted to leave the Palestinian enclave.

In the Gaza Strip, 38% of men and only 24% of women said they wanted to go, while the difference between men and women in the West Bank was far less significant at 21% to 20%.

Supporters of Fatah were also more than twice as likely to want to leave Gaza than Hamas supporters (31% to 14%).


The difference between the two groups in the West Bank was significantly less pronounced, with only 16% of Fatah supporters wanting to leave compared to 19% of Hamas supporters. Third party supporters were significantly more likely to want to leave in both Gaza (45%) and the West Bank (48%).

Forty-five percent of all those wanting to leave cited economic reasons, with political and security reasons being less significant.

The most popular option for Palestinians wanting to leave the territories was Turkey, at 19%.

One in four Palestinians wanted to leave West Bank, Gaza before war - poll

Young Palestinians are likely to want to emigrate from Gaza and the West Bank to seek better economies in Turkey, Germany and Canada.

www.jpost.com

This was before the war, and I'm sure the numbers of those who want to leave would be much larger now. Clearly there would be no reason to force the Palestinians to leave. Mass emigration like this is self perpetuating, as more of the people you ae accustomed to dealing with leave, you would have fewer reasons to stay. If the UN had offered to facilitate voluntary emigration after the 1948-49 war there might never have been a serious conflict with the Palestinians after the war.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

This is what is usually referred to as "woke" by trumpanzees, "pandering to the demands of minorities" as some here would put it.

If this was being proposed for blacks or gays or Hispanics it would be called "woke" but when it comes to Israel and neo-Zionism, special treatment is the norm.

Trump launches anti-Semitism crackdown and targets pro-Hamas students

President Trump will launch an anti-Semitism crackdown when he signs an executive order instructing federal agencies to deport anti-Jewish activists, including students.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Pastelli]

US President Donald Trump dug in his heels Monday over a controversial suggestion that large numbers of Gazans take refuge in Egypt and Jordan, shrugging off wall-to-wall opposition to the proposal from Arab leaders.

Fresh off calls with Egyptian counterpart Abdel-Fatah el-Sissi and Jordan’s King Abdullah, Trump insisted both leaders would take in Palestinians from the war-ravaged territory and said the issue would be discussed with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when the two meet sometime soon, amid speculation in Israel that Trump’s gambit was being coordinated with Jerusalem.

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US President Donald Trump dug in his heels Monday over a controversial suggestion that large numbers of Gazans take refuge in Egypt and Jordan, shrugging off wall-to-wall opposition to the proposal from Arab leaders.
Fresh off calls with Egyptian counterpart Abdel-Fatah el-Sissi and Jordan’s King Abdullah, Trump insisted both leaders would take in Palestinians from the war-ravaged territory and said the issue would be discussed with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu when the two meet sometime soon, amid speculation in Israel that Trump’s gambit was being coordinated with Jerusalem.
The US president on Saturday floated the idea to “clean out” Gaza after more than 15 months of war between Israel and Hamas had reduced the Palestinian territory to what he called a “demolition site.”
Asked about those comments, Trump told reporters on Air Force One Monday evening he would “like to get them living in an area where they can live without disruption and revolution and violence so much.”
“When you look at the Gaza Strip, it’s been hell for so many years,” Trump said. “There have been various civilizations on that strip. It didn’t start here. It started thousands of years before, and there’s always been violence associated with it. You could get people living in areas that are a lot safer and maybe a lot better and maybe a lot more comfortable.”

Both Egypt and Jordan have come out strongly against Trump’s idea, saying that Palestinians should be allowed to remain in Gaza and underlining concerns that Palestinians who decamp for safety may never be allowed to return. Members of Israel’s far right have called since the start of the war for reestablishing Isralei settlements there and have advocated for the “voluntary migration” of Palestinians from the enclave.

Albanian premier Edi Rama also denied on Monday an Israeli TV report that his country was in talks to take in as many as 100,000 Gazans.

“Albania has not been asked by anyone, nor can we even consider to take on any such responsibility,” he tweeted. “Albania is not in the Middle East itself, and from the heart of Europe, we cannot do more than any other European country in such a matter.”


Trump had been expected to bring up the issue during a call with Sissi Sunday. Asked how the Egyptian leader received the idea, Trump said Sissi’s “response [was] that he’d like to see peace in the Middle East.”

“I’d like to see peace in the Middle East,” Trump added.

Trump doubles down on proposal to move Gazans; insists Egypt and Jordan will agree

US president brushes aside staunch Arab opposition to idea that Strip's residents leave territory, saying violence is endemic to Gaza; Albanian leader denies his country is in the mix

www.timesofisrael.com

My first thought was that it is impossible, but my second thought was, why not? Everyone in the area, Israel, Jordan, Egypt and especially the Palestinian people would benefit from peace in the area of Gaza, but the only way to bring peace to Gaza is to disrupt the culture there that is committed to the destruction of Israel, and the only ways to do that is to either continue this horrible war until the Palestinians are so beaten they cannot mount another attack or to move enough of them somewhere else so they cannot mount another attack. Clearly, moving them out is the kinder solution.

The "palestinians" are originally from Egypt l, Saudi Arabia, etc.

 

[fncceo]

Our President once again shows his limited knowledge of global politics
He comes up with these wild ideas on his own and doesn’t have anyone around him to talk him out of it

I see no reason to talk him out of it.

Gaza and the West Bank were Egyptian and Jordanian territory (respectively) until as recently as the 1980s. They gave up claim to those territories but left the people behind.

They are, historically, Egyptian and Jordanian citizens.

Why then should they not return to their own countries? They clearly aren’t willing to live in peace with Jews.

 

[toomuchtime_]

The "palestinians" are originally from Egypt l, Saudi Arabia, etc.
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The issue we are dealing with is how to resolve the conflict between the Arabs and the Israelis, and while ancestry may be a motivating factor for some, it is irrelevant to the conflict.

 

[otto105]

Better there than here, which is where Biden and Kamala would have settled the Jew-haters.

We already have enough white ayran fuckups who follow Hitlers hatred of Jewish people here.

 

[Ringo]

 

[Billo_Really]

Gaza invaded Israel on October 7, not the other way around.

Wrong! Israel invaded Gaza in 1967.

 

[Lisa558]

Wrong! Israel invaded Gaza in 1967.

Read a history book - and not one written by the Arabs.

 

[Lisa558]

Democrats: we’re in favor of censoring opposing opinion, pressuring social media to hide negatives about Democrats, and punishing people who support Trump - but if leftists and Muslims shout for the murder of Jews, we chalk that up to “free speech.”

In fact, we will call any Jew who objects to Muslims calling out “Death to Jews” as being prejudiced against Muslims.