Trump decertifies Iran deal

The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

it was not a treaty, so you can just back that truck up!
Jesus Christ, you are a fucking idiot! You're the only one mentioning a treaty you ignorant fuck! Now go piss up a rope you jackass!

The United States did not commit to the agreement. BHO did, without Senate confirmation. That is why Trump can do the decertification on a whim.

Barry couldn't get it past the Senate as a treaty, so he made an agreement that was his and only his in the making.

You want to blame someone for this? Look no further than the left's Lord and Messiah.
 
The Iran deal was one of the worst acts against the US that obama did. He should have been arrested and tried over that one. Thank God Trump is undoing everything that rat bastard did in his 8 years of mayhem and destruction.
 
The Iran deal was one of the worst acts against the US that obama did. He should have been arrested and tried over that one. Thank God Trump is undoing everything that rat bastard did in his 8 years of mayhem and destruction.
You are gonna trust an emotional New York real estate guy over a general who is respected by the entire country (Mattis)? You may be hitting the sauce a little too hard
:wine:
 
This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.


At this point in time exactly what does the US accomplish by walking out of the agreement. The other signers of the treaty refuse to renegotiate the agreement and will continue to trade with Iran. In fact, they would benefit by US sanctions on Iran. Iran has got most the money the US was holding since the 1970's. Iranian oil will continue to be sold on the world market. The UN will continue inspections. What exactly changes other than increased friction between US and Iran?
 
The Iran deal was one of the worst acts against the US that obama did. He should have been arrested and tried over that one. Thank God Trump is undoing everything that rat bastard did in his 8 years of mayhem and destruction.

I don't think you even understand the Iran deal, but the reality is, it wasn't our deal. It was Europe's deal, we just pushed our way into it.

If Trump decertifies the deal, Europe, Russia and China will just ignore us and trade with Iran on their own.
 
The one thing the Idiot-in Chief has done is send a message to all governments on this Earth that the word the United States commits to in any agreement is subject to the whim of any future President after a number of years have passed. That fucking NARCISSISTIC FOOL has done grave damage to the reputation of this Nation and is unconscionable!

it was not a treaty, so you can just back that truck up!
Jesus Christ, you are a fucking idiot! You're the only one mentioning a treaty you ignorant fuck! Now go piss up a rope you jackass!

The United States did not commit to the agreement. BHO did, without Senate confirmation. That is why Trump can do the decertification on a whim.

Barry couldn't get it past the Senate as a treaty, so he made an agreement that was his and only his in the making.

You want to blame someone for this? Look no further than the left's Lord and Messiah.
Barry couldn't get it past the Senate as a treaty, so he made an agreement that was his and only his in the making.
You're a clueless mother fucking IDIOT and water carrying, ass licking sycophant of that Orange Clown. Have you read the 2015 Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act ? When you have and FULLY understand what is says, like the 90 day reviews to maintain certification, the Congressional overview requirements, etc, etc... get back to me you fucking know-nothing!

GOD DAMN you're a fucking IDIOT blowing that bullshit out your ass!
 
This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.




Basically, he has declined to certify that Iran is in compliance. He has also asked Congress to reexamine the deal and address certain aspects of it in the coming months. This will certainly not make Iran happy though ultimately it doesn't change too much. The damage is already done. Meantime, you can count on Democrats opposing everything Trump does good or bad just to be Professional Assholes. And you can count on the Senatorial GOP of pretty much being eternally worthless.
 
The nuclear deal between the US and Iran — or, more precisely, the US, Iran, China, France, Russia, the UK, and Germany — is a very long and technically complicated document. But its basic terms can be boiled down to a very simple transaction: Iran agrees to strict limits on its nuclear program and, in exchange, the other five countries relax sanctions imposed on Iran as punishment for its nuclear activities.

This agreement, formally named the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), appears to be working basically as intended.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has repeatedly confirmed that Iran has complied with the deal’s restrictions, such as the requirement that Iran dismantle thousands of centrifuges (devices that can be used to create weapons-grade uranium). This has moved Iran further away from being able to build a bomb, thus avoiding the horrible choice of either allowing Iran to become a North Korea-style nuclear power or launching a bloody war to try and stop it.

“By any objective measure, we’re not seeing any violations of the deal,” says Richard Nephew, an expert at Columbia University who worked on negotiations with Iran in the Obama White House between 2011 and 2013.


and as usual Trump is smarter than the rest of the nuclear minded world.
 
This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.


At this point in time exactly what does the US accomplish by walking out of the agreement. The other signers of the treaty refuse to renegotiate the agreement and will continue to trade with Iran. In fact, they would benefit by US sanctions on Iran. Iran has got most the money the US was holding since the 1970's. Iranian oil will continue to be sold on the world market. The UN will continue inspections. What exactly changes other than increased friction between US and Iran?

The actual merits to walking out or benefits we got from the deal or will or won't get now are IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. We should never negotiate with Iranians. That's the damn point. All praise to Trump!

And besides he really just kicked it down to congress .... along with daca healthcare and the budget ... for 6 mos.
 
The nuclear deal between the US and Iran — or, more precisely, the US, Iran, China, France, Russia, the UK, and Germany — is a very long and technically complicated document. But its basic terms can be boiled down to a very simple transaction: Iran agrees to strict limits on its nuclear program and, in exchange, the other five countries relax sanctions imposed on Iran as punishment for its nuclear activities.

This agreement, formally named the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), appears to be working basically as intended.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has repeatedly confirmed that Iran has complied with the deal’s restrictions, such as the requirement that Iran dismantle thousands of centrifuges (devices that can be used to create weapons-grade uranium). This has moved Iran further away from being able to build a bomb, thus avoiding the horrible choice of either allowing Iran to become a North Korea-style nuclear power or launching a bloody war to try and stop it.

“By any objective measure, we’re not seeing any violations of the deal,” says Richard Nephew, an expert at Columbia University who worked on negotiations with Iran in the Obama White House between 2011 and 2013.


and as usual Trump is smarter than the rest of the nuclear minded world.
That's actually my question. I mean with have the Trumpbots pissing themselves in adulation of President Trumps "bold" move that in reality doesn't do jackshit.

But Iran had a legit reason to fear the US would invade them for regime change. The deal provided no regime change for no nuke. Trump's surrendered our world leadership. We can't get the Queen of England to say hello to Trump ... they ain't gonna back us on much again. If we invaded Iran today, every other member of the Security Council would vote for sanctions on US. Ironically, Iran may have no reason to want a nuke now.

If I'm NK, I'm building one fast, though.
 
The nuclear deal between the US and Iran — or, more precisely, the US, Iran, China, France, Russia, the UK, and Germany — is a very long and technically complicated document. But its basic terms can be boiled down to a very simple transaction: Iran agrees to strict limits on its nuclear program and, in exchange, the other five countries relax sanctions imposed on Iran as punishment for its nuclear activities.

This agreement, formally named the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), appears to be working basically as intended.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has repeatedly confirmed that Iran has complied with the deal’s restrictions, such as the requirement that Iran dismantle thousands of centrifuges (devices that can be used to create weapons-grade uranium). This has moved Iran further away from being able to build a bomb, thus avoiding the horrible choice of either allowing Iran to become a North Korea-style nuclear power or launching a bloody war to try and stop it.

“By any objective measure, we’re not seeing any violations of the deal,” says Richard Nephew, an expert at Columbia University who worked on negotiations with Iran in the Obama White House between 2011 and 2013.


and as usual Trump is smarter than the rest of the nuclear minded world.
That's actually my question. I mean with have the Trumpbots pissing themselves in adulation of President Trumps "bold" move that in reality doesn't do jackshit.

But Iran had a legit reason to fear the US would invade them for regime change. The deal provided no regime change for no nuke. Trump's surrendered our world leadership. We can't get the Queen of England to say hello to Trump ... they ain't gonna back us on much again. If we invaded Iran today, every other member of the Security Council would vote for sanctions on US. Ironically, Iran may have no reason to want a nuke now.

If I'm NK, I'm building one fast, though.

to make his decertification work and have consequences he has to implement severe sanctions against Iran .. the odds of that happening is pretty slim without congress.

hes fucked again because he only plays to his base keeping them lathered up and foaming a the mouth without thinking about the rest of the world.
 
I think if we have the right to own nukes others should too. What gives us the right to go around telling others what to have and what not to have? And leave them vulnerable for us to invade them at anytime?
 
This took guts. I applaud President Trump for doing it. The iran deal guaranteed us that Iran would get Nukes after ten years, at best. Trump was right that it was the worst deal ever negotiated.


At this point in time exactly what does the US accomplish by walking out of the agreement. The other signers of the treaty refuse to renegotiate the agreement and will continue to trade with Iran. In fact, they would benefit by US sanctions on Iran. Iran has got most the money the US was holding since the 1970's. Iranian oil will continue to be sold on the world market. The UN will continue inspections. What exactly changes other than increased friction between US and Iran?

The actual merits to walking out or benefits we got from the deal or will or won't get now are IRRELEVANT TO THE DISCUSSION. We should never negotiate with Iranians. That's the damn point. All praise to Trump!

And besides he really just kicked it down to congress .... along with daca healthcare and the budget ... for 6 mos.

The point is we did negotiate with Iran and the United States signed the agreement. The Iranians have met the requirements of the agreement according to our Secretary of State and the UN who conducted the inspections. Just because the Senate did not vote on the agreement, that does not make the treaty invalid in international courts. If the US is going to renege on an agreement it certainly should have a lot better reason than we should have never negotiated.

Personally, I didn't like the deal and think we could have done better but we agreed to it and the United States lives up to it's agreements.
 
The nuclear deal between the US and Iran — or, more precisely, the US, Iran, China, France, Russia, the UK, and Germany — is a very long and technically complicated document. But its basic terms can be boiled down to a very simple transaction: Iran agrees to strict limits on its nuclear program and, in exchange, the other five countries relax sanctions imposed on Iran as punishment for its nuclear activities.

This agreement, formally named the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), appears to be working basically as intended.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) has repeatedly confirmed that Iran has complied with the deal’s restrictions, such as the requirement that Iran dismantle thousands of centrifuges (devices that can be used to create weapons-grade uranium). This has moved Iran further away from being able to build a bomb, thus avoiding the horrible choice of either allowing Iran to become a North Korea-style nuclear power or launching a bloody war to try and stop it.

“By any objective measure, we’re not seeing any violations of the deal,” says Richard Nephew, an expert at Columbia University who worked on negotiations with Iran in the Obama White House between 2011 and 2013.


and as usual Trump is smarter than the rest of the nuclear minded world.
That's actually my question. I mean with have the Trumpbots pissing themselves in adulation of President Trumps "bold" move that in reality doesn't do jackshit.

But Iran had a legit reason to fear the US would invade them for regime change. The deal provided no regime change for no nuke. Trump's surrendered our world leadership. We can't get the Queen of England to say hello to Trump ... they ain't gonna back us on much again. If we invaded Iran today, every other member of the Security Council would vote for sanctions on US. Ironically, Iran may have no reason to want a nuke now.

If I'm NK, I'm building one fast, though.

to make his decertification work and have consequences he has to implement severe sanctions against Iran .. the odds of that happening is pretty slim without congress.

hes fucked again because he only plays to his base keeping them lathered up and foaming a the mouth without thinking about the rest of the world.

Even Corker is pleasantly surprised with how the thing worked with Iran's nuke program. And yes, this tweet was just aimed at appeasing the base ..... who aren't getting shit.

There are other issues with Iran .... and Obama was not a Monroe or TR, but he wasn't the one who destabilized Iraq and sent the Republican Guard to the terrorists.
 
Once again, president Trump just forced Congress to do its job.

The Iran deal was President Obama's personal unconstitutional treaty. After he completed the deal he ran straight to the UN to have it ratified before ever allowing Congress to even look at it.
-- so much for the most transparent Administration evuh.

If Democrats and Republicans still want this deal they will have to legally and constitutionally have it by passing their own legislation.

President Trump is exposing to all Americans just how broken Congress is.

He is also showing there is more than one way to drain a swamp...
 
Once again, president Trump just forced Congress to do its job.

The Iran deal was President Obama's personal unconstitutional treaty. After he completed the deal he ran straight to the UN to have it ratified before ever allowing Congress to even look at it.
-- so much for the most transparent Administration evuh.

If Democrats and Republicans still want this deal they will have to legally and constitutionally have it by passing their own legislation.

President Trump is exposing to all Americans just how broken Congress is.

He is also showing there is more than one way to drain a swamp...

Sorry bud, but all Trump did was prove his word means nothing and allow the Iranians to build whatever they like without those agreements in place. Good thing too, a nuclear Iran AND our words and agreements meaning nothing are good things, right?

On positives can come from going back on your word over semantics.

Thats on Trump ad he cant put that on anyone else
 
Once again, president Trump just forced Congress to do its job.

The Iran deal was President Obama's personal unconstitutional treaty. After he completed the deal he ran straight to the UN to have it ratified before ever allowing Congress to even look at it.
-- so much for the most transparent Administration evuh.

If Democrats and Republicans still want this deal they will have to legally and constitutionally have it by passing their own legislation.

President Trump is exposing to all Americans just how broken Congress is.

He is also showing there is more than one way to drain a swamp...

Sorry bud, but all Trump did was prove his word means nothing and allow the Iranians to build whatever they like without those agreements in place. Good thing too, a nuclear Iran AND our words and agreements meaning nothing are good things, right?

On positives can come from going back on your word over semantics.

Thats on Trump ad he cant put that on anyone else
Are you mad?
The deal allows Iran to continue enriching uranium and prevents us from checking up on them by not allowing us on any of their military installations. When I ran demanded that they be allowed to continue to enrich uranium we should have walked away from the table.

United States should have walked away from the table when I ran Marcus as we sat there, while the Shah of Iran called for the destruction of the United States during the Goshi ation, while the Iranian Air Force practiced bombing Mark u.s. aircraft carriers during the negotiations.

President Obama wanted this so bad as part of his legacy he was willing to give away just about anything. After declaring that we do not leave Americans behind, he wanted this personal treaty so badly that he refused to even ask for us hostages back as part of the deal. He wanted this deal so badly that he refused to demand that Iran ceased terrorists and terrorists surrogate activity throughout the Middle East as part of the deal.

I'm not quite sure that if Iran had demanded that President Obama turn over his wife and two daughters as part of the deal if he would not have at least considered it...

Only a Madman ... or politician desperate to secure a legacy ... would have remained at the table and agreed to such a one-sided 'surrender'
 

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