JoeB131
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If Iran wanted a nuke, they'd have one.
It's 1945 technology. It's just not that hard to get.
Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq … So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat
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It's 1945 technology. It's just not that hard to get.
candycorn
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The technology is not that hard to get.... What dumbfux like kyzr don't understand or don't want to admit (most likely) is that delivering it is a whole different concept. Miniaturization to put on a warhead is pretty damn hard. Its a few generations past creating a nuclear bomb and they could get there. They were on a very long road to having a nuke. They were a few continents away from having a delivery vehicle
Idiots think that.
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Massive Ordnance Penetrators, not MOABS. Didn't I correct you once before?
BasicHumanUnit
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Iran Ramps Up Political Crackdown Amid Peace Talks
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/iran-peace-deal-nuclear-talks/2026/06/22/id/1260515/What did Trump include in the "Peace Talks" to warn the evil Regime to not harm it's population?
Oh, right...not a damn thing. Gave them hope...then handed them over to the Butcher without a 2nd thought. VERY "Christian"
My vote (and any I can convince) will go to 3rd party candidates from now on. F em.
Concerned American
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Remember when American youth were taught respect for the office/badge?
Uhm, the Mullahs are still in charge.
Crepitus
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Trump Crippled Iran Without Giving Them Another Iraq …
So The Experts Moved The Goalposts And Called It Defeat19 Jun 2026 ~~ By Capt. Seth Keshel
The Shifting Persian Goalposts
Isn’t it clear that no deal will ever be good enough to appease the Trump haters?www.captaink.us
Longtime readers of Captain K’s Corner understand that I prefer to view the world as it is, rather than how I wish it would be. Do you remember last month, when everyone was salivating over polling showing two Republican candidates (Hilton and Bianco) atop the gubernatorial polls, with less than 15% each?
Oh wow, we’re gonna wind up with two Republican candidates for governor this year because there are too many Dems running!Remember how I felt about that?
Eric Swalwell was clearly pushed out of the race from the Democrat side (by his own people) to prevent the dual-GOP scenario from happening. And then, even if all other machinations failed, the ballot counting machine would have taken as long as possible to ensure the party didn’t get locked out of running its own state. In the end, Steve Hilton made it to the General Election, and by less than 2 points over third-place candidate Tom Steyer – with roughly 83,000 ballots left to count nearly three weeks since Election Day.
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Eric Swalwell was clearly pushed out of the race from the Democrat side (by his own people) to prevent the dual-GOP scenario from happening. And then, even if all other machinations failed, the ballot counting machine would have taken as long as possible to ensure the party didn’t get locked out of running its own state. In the end, Steve Hilton made it to the General Election, and by less than 2 points over third-place candidate Tom Steyer – with roughly 83,000 ballots left to count nearly three weeks since Election Day.
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My admonition to all is to tune out the negative voices and the whiners who are trying to stop President Trump from advancing toward a deal. I had hopes the Iranian regime would be rooted out, but once again, it’s not America’s job to do the dying necessary, and without willing partners ready to put boots on ground while we remain at sea and in the air, it’s a non-starter. The best outcome, then, from this point forward looks like the rumored framework of the deal:Earlier this week, President Trump inked an agreement to bring about the cessation of hostilities and establish the framework for regional stability. Yet many of the voices who encouraged the early kinetic actions against Iran are now screeching because the bombs are on hold (for now), and on the flip side of the coin, the loudest voices for non-interventionism are repeating online vomit and half-truths to mock Trump for supposedly waving a white flag.
- Strait of Hormuz immediately reopened with de-mining underway
- Iran gives up uranium enrichment, hands over any stockpiles, and provides access to outside inspectors to ensure their end of the agreement is held up
- Iran, pending satisfactory fulfillment of above points, gets a break on sanctions and an opportunity for the new chain of command to advance the nation’s standing in the world
The goalposts for what defines success are constantly being moved.
Now it is time for a reality check on the way the world is, and why the deal is what it is:
The goalposts for what defines success are constantly being moved.
Now it is time for a reality check on the way the world is, and why the deal is what it is:
Isn't carrying all that orange water tiring?
JoeB131
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So are you claiming that the Scientists on the IAEA are "idiots".
IAEA Report Confirms Iran’s Compliance with the JCPOA | Arms Control Association
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) released its quarterly report on Iran’s nuclear program June 6, and, unsurprisingly, the report found that Iran is complying with its commitments under the multilateral deal known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).
The report, finalized May 24, was the first since U.S. President Donald Trump violated the nuclear deal May 8 by reimposing sanctions on Iran, and withdrew the United States from the accord. The report bears out what Iranian officials stated after Trump’s announcement – that Iran would remain within the JCPOA, for now.
According to the report:
- Iran’s stockpile of uranium enriched to 3.67 percent uranium-235 was 123.9 kg, below the 300 kg limit set by the accord;
- Iran’s stockpile of heavy water 120.3 metric tons, below the 130 metric ton limit set by the deal;
- no more than 5,060 IR-1 centrifuges were installed at Natanz for enriching uranium;
- Iran enriched uranium only to 3.67 percent uranium-235, the limit set by the deal;
- Iran’s research and development activities using advanced centrifuges were in line with the state’s long-term plan; and
- Iran has continued to implement the additional protocol to its safeguards agreement and permit additional monitoring and verification measures under the JCPOA.
JoeB131
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You have to refine uranium to use it.
Using biological weapons seems easier. Release it and watch parts of the planet die.
Right all your presumptions are pretty much crap...
No Ship insurance company will allow their ships through the strait if the blockade is on...
Global Oil is running out, in months... Iran can hold out for years...
Really, where are you getting your info from? Iran has won this stage of the conflict, every analyst has agreed this... Trump was out played, even the GOP agree that..
Is now...
The are negotiating now... US has to keep Isreal on a leash...
Drone Factories? You really don't get it... Do you know how easy and cheap it is to create drones... What happens in Iran is assembly... Want to bomb drone factories you would be bombing places in the US, US components have been found in Iranian Drones... How bad is the info you get?
Yes, a lot of Drones are shot down by a million dollar systems... US spends a million dollars taking down drones costing $20,000 to $50,000... Do the maths...
Why the US military is stuck using $1 million missiles against Iran’s $20,000 drones
Bureaucratic hurdles mean the US military typically has to wait a decade between the time it sees a new threat and the employment of a new system to defend against it.
theconversation.com
This is regular news in Europe... No agendas, no skin in the game...
JoeB131
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Well, that's what you claim.
Of course, the Iranians had months to move it before anyone started bombing, but if it makes you feel better to believe that uranium and equipment are buried, have at it.
So now we've given Iran control of the Strait.
No limits on Ballistic development
Open the markets to their oil
lifted sanctions
released their assets
And promised to stop messing with them.
Set them up with a 300 billion dollar fund.
All in exchange for maybe talking about Uranium sometime in the future.
kyzr
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Hormuz is open. Do try to keep up.
The war is not over until the MOU is finalized, check back in about 60 days.
"Analysts" think Iran controls Hormuz, that point is disputed by the new channels closer to Oman.
Drones are shot down by jets and helicopters as well as many other cheaper systems.
The whole issue is that Iran can't have nukes. Looks like they agreed to that with Hormuz open.
Don't forget that Iran's powerplants can be destroyed if need be. Just sayin.
Better focusing on why they want a nuke...
They want it for security... Iran has numerous times stated they want it because their main enemy in the region has nukes... it is as simple as that... Isreal has a number of Zealots in their Government who have openly said that whole Arab nations should be wiped out...
Iran has there crackpots too who are just as bad...
Thing is both sides have pockets of extremists in various levels of power who really just want to fight. A vast majority on both sides most of the time just want to live in peace...
Iran has offered to end their Nuke Program since 2003 and end support of Hamas & HEzbollah if US would meet a few conditions.
Before this present war the Iranian Regime had about 20% support of the people. Iran is highly corrupt and incompetent. This war has put them back a generation. What they needed was arms and support for anti-government factions, not huge money, just enough to cause an upset... This opportunity was missed.
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