Trump calls for scrapping debt limit

[Nostra]

The way you screech like Ned Beatty in Deliverance every time Democrats seek an increase yet moan like a whore when republicans do.

Provide examples of each. I say you are a liar.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Haha suuuuurre

If you were involved in business, you would have seen the same thing.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Massively expanding the Deep State, removing the debt limit, spending like a drunken sailor (again), throwing the world economy and supply chains into a tizzy with random tariffs, putting America's Treasury Bonds and entire domestic bond market at serious risk, destroying the critical global economic, military and intelligence relationships we've been building for 80 years, firing thousands of federal workers with little planning for it, putting Medicaid in jeopardy, overtly threatening pretty much anyone who gets in his way. For starters.

Definitely the Revenge Tour™. On the whole planet.

Problem is his supporters have no idea what you're talking about, and they think you must be wrong. They can accept you're wrong because it makes no sense to them. Trump must be good.

 

[Mac1958]

Problem is his supporters have no idea what you're talking about, and they think you must be wrong. They can accept you're wrong because it makes no sense to them. Trump must be good.

Yes. There are two seperate and opposite universes right now: MAGA and the rest of the planet (including people from across the American political spectrum).

I wouldn't try to convince them of anything. All I can do is observe and hope for the best. Period.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yes. There are two seperate and opposite universes right now: MAGA and the rest of the planet (including people from across the American political spectrum).

I wouldn't try to convince them of anything. All I can do is observe and hope for the best. Period.

Yeah, and "MAGA" is all over the place, AfD in Germany, Reform in the UK, people have realized there's money to be made from idiots.

 

[sealybobo]

Like all things liberals say, lies.

"Americans won't do these jobs"

"We don't have the man power"


Well, which is it?


FYI, working big farms aren't the only hard jobs.

Americans not only work the hardest jobs in this country, but they are the majority of the work force in the hardest jobs.

Now I see the plan. This is why you are anti education. You want us to stop going to school after high school so we can work your farms. You guys are taking us back to a time when the nobles ruled the rabble.

 

[Correll]

Do you want to know where the majority of illegals are? Red states. Agriculture. Farms. Trump's not going after those illegals.

I don't know that that is true (californian, NOT red ex) . and also Trump has stated that first priority is the violent gang members.

So....

Mollie Tibbetts was killed by Cristhian Rivera, who worked at Yarrabee Farms, a dairy farm near her home in Brooklyn, Iowa.

Yarrabee Farms also lied and said they used Everify. They didn't.

Said the man that wants to let them all stay.

Next you will say those are just jobs Americans won't do.

Errr, I would never say that. I don't think that very many MAGA would say that. LEFTARDS and RINOS, say stupid shit like that.

And food prices would skyrocket if we went after those illegal employers.

I don't know if that is true. How much is labor as a percentage of food costs?

The government knows about them and notice ICE is not raiding these farms?

Trump has publicly stated, as formal policy that he is focusing on violent criminals FIRST.

I know that you want to let them ALL stay, despite your pretense of caring about HOW it is done, as opposed to just OPPOSING ALL OF IT,

But, do we need to discuss why it makes sense to go after the MORE DANGEROUS ONES FIRST? Just how stupid are you prepared to pretend to be?

Chicken, beef, apple orchards, cherries, pears, I'd say the vast majority of our illegals are in Red states not California.

Oh, wait, you're reverting to that tired retardedness, of pretending that all illegals are in farm work?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Wow. You really have no shame today.

If you were really stupid enough to believe that, you would be non-verbal retarded.

So, you're lying. Stop that.

 

[sealybobo]

I don't know that that is true (californian, NOT red ex) . and also Trump has stated that first priority is the violent gang members.

So....


Said the man that wants to let them all stay.





Errr, I would never say that. I don't think that very many MAGA would say that. LEFTARDS and RINOS, say stupid shit like that.




I don't know if that is true. How much is labor as a percentage of food costs?



Trump has publicly stated, as formal policy that he is focusing on violent criminals FIRST.

I know that you want to let them ALL stay, despite your pretense of caring about HOW it is done, as opposed to just OPPOSING ALL OF IT,

But, do we need to discuss why it makes sense to go after the MORE DANGEROUS ONES FIRST? Just how stupid are you prepared to pretend to be?



Oh, wait, you're reverting to that tired retardedness, of pretending that all illegals are in farm work?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA Wow. You really have no shame today.

If you were really stupid enough to believe that, you would be non-verbal retarded.

So, you're lying. Stop that.

Right now you're talking about bringing home jobs to a country with near zero unemployment and at the same time running 10 mill illegals out and you think we won't have a manpower shortage? Maybe you are counting on automation to fill a lot of roles. Like, when the McD employee goes to a better paying job in the fields picking fruit, McD can automate.

 

[Correll]

Right now you're talking about bringing home jobs to a country with near zero unemployment and at the same time running 10 mill illegals out and you think we won't have a manpower shortage? Maybe you are counting on automation to fill a lot of roles. Like, when the McD employee goes to a better paying job in the fields picking fruit, McD can automate.

I want employers desperate enough for workers, that they are forced to offer higher wages.

 

[sartre play]

Fighting over those at the bottom of of the money pool.
While the concentration of wealth at the TOP is Corrupting Our Politics.

 

[sealybobo]

I want employers desperate enough for workers, that they are forced to offer higher wages.

Yea, it's not happening. They just assume not grow. Automate. Or roll back child labor laws.

 

[Nostra]

Provide examples of each. I say you are a liar.

Looks like we have another example of Crepitus being his normal lying sack of vermin shit.

 

[Correll]

Yea, it's not happening. They just assume not grow. Automate. Or roll back child labor laws.

Actually, recent wage numbers are good.


It's early. REal early. But it does seem to be happening.

 

[Cellblock2429]

I'm wonder how they explain, if so many illegals are on welfare. Why does ICE keep raiding places of business in order to catch illegals at work?

/——-/ It’s called working off the books. It’s been going on since the tax code was implemented in 1913. DERP

 

[sealybobo]

Actually, recent wage numbers are good.


It's early. REal early. But it does seem to be happening.

Wages were fine on Biden's watch. Why? All those unions got raises. Unions did REALLY WELL under Biden. Auto, dock workers, writers, healthcare, casino's.

You're saying uneducated blue collar wages are going up? Where? Walmart or McD? Show me.

And don't believe those numbers.

I did a google and found this: Generally speaking, while wage growth has been strong since the COVID-19 pandemic began, particularly for low-wage earners..

So wage growth was happening before Trump. You show me it's happening now please.

 

[sealybobo]

Actually, recent wage numbers are good.


It's early. REal early. But it does seem to be happening.

Yes, wage growth is generally happening in the United States, though it's slowing down compared to its peak in the early post-pandemic period. Real average hourly earnings (adjusted for inflation) have increased, indicating that workers are earning more than they did previously after accounting for inflation.

Key points about wage growth:

• Overall Increase:
  Wages have risen significantly since 2021, with real average hourly earnings up by nearly 4% over the past year, according to The White House.
  
  
• Wage Growth Outpaces Inflation:
  Nominal wages (the literal dollars earned) have increased faster than inflation, meaning workers are experiencing a net increase in purchasing power, says USAFacts.
  
  
• Slowing Growth:
  Wage growth has slowed in recent months, but is still positive.

 

[Nostra]

Does anyone have a link to this fictitious debt limit?

 

[sealybobo]

Actually, recent wage numbers are good.


It's early. REal early. But it does seem to be happening.

Yesterday some Republican shared this with me:

Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, meaning they receive more in government services thanthey pay in taxes. This result is not due to laziness or fraud. Illegal immigrants actually havehigh rates of work, and they do pay some taxes, including income and payroll taxes. Thefundamental reason that illegal immigrants are a net drain is that they have a low averageeducation level, which results in low average earnings and tax payments. It also means a largeshare qualify for welfare programs, often receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-bornchildren. Like their less-educated and low-income U.S.-born counterparts, the tax payments of illegal immigrants do not come close to covering the cost they create.

So you uneducated blue collar AMERICANS are not pulling your weight.

 

[Nostra]

Yesterday some Republican shared this with me:

Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, meaning they receive more in government services thanthey pay in taxes. This result is not due to laziness or fraud. Illegal immigrants actually havehigh rates of work, and they do pay some taxes, including income and payroll taxes. Thefundamental reason that illegal immigrants are a net drain is that they have a low averageeducation level, which results in low average earnings and tax payments. It also means a largeshare qualify for welfare programs, often receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-bornchildren. Like their less-educated and low-income U.S.-born counterparts, the tax payments of illegal immigrants do not come close to covering the cost they create.

So you uneducated blue collar AMERICANS are not pulling your weight.

So you admit illegals are a drain on society.

Baby steps.

 

[Correll]

Wages were fine on Biden's watch. Why? All those unions got raises. Unions did REALLY WELL under Biden. Auto, dock workers, writers, healthcare, casino's.

You're saying uneducated blue collar wages are going up? Where? Walmart or McD? Show me.

And don't believe those numbers.

I did a google and found this: Generally speaking, while wage growth has been strong since the COVID-19 pandemic began, particularly for low-wage earners..

So wage growth was happening before Trump. You show me it's happening now please.

Tried googling the report I saw, all I got was a flood of bullshit from people like you claiming that immigration is good for wages.

So, believe me or not, I don't care.

The fact remains. wages are looking good. Early numbers, but good numbers.


I want that trend to continue for the next 50 years, then we can talk about giving the employerss fom love.