Trump bringing in more immigrants.

I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
At basically full employment you gotta fill jobs somehow. LEGAL TEMPORARY status is much preferred to the open borders the left supports.
BUT we need to STRICTLY monitor those who come. Overstaying your Visa is no different than breaching our borders

Again, if true how do we argue against the millions and millions working here illegally?
 
spring and summer season is here - time for Trump Hotels and golf resorts to hire cheap labor-

how hard was that to figure out ?

DDDDDUUUUUUUHHHHH
 
There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

If you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between legitimate guests and immigrants, and invading foreign criminals; then there is no point trying to discuss any of this with you. Your entire understanding of every issue pertaining to this matter is based on a treasonous lie which you refuse to let go of.

You are the one ignoring the correlation. Both drive down wages. Both are things Trump argued against.

And Trump was dead wrong as anyone who is familiar with labor statistics knows.

Our population is getting older and baby-boomers are retiring in droves, which will be driving down Labor Participation rates, stifling economic growth and increasing dependant-to-worker ratio all the way to 2040s.

LFPRProjections.PNG


The only way to really counter that is to have an external influx of younger workers.

At one point in time these companies would train those they needed. They aren't interested in doing that any longer. We have all kinds of people being displaced with automation that are going to need jobs.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
At basically full employment you gotta fill jobs somehow. LEGAL TEMPORARY status is much preferred to the open borders the left supports.
BUT we need to STRICTLY monitor those who come. Overstaying your Visa is no different than breaching our borders

Again, if true how do we argue against the millions and millions working here illegally?
Simple, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
At basically full employment you gotta fill jobs somehow. LEGAL TEMPORARY status is much preferred to the open borders the left supports.
BUT we need to STRICTLY monitor those who come. Overstaying your Visa is no different than breaching our borders

Again, if true how do we argue against the millions and millions working here illegally?
Simple, THEY ARE HERE ILLEGALLY

How do we replace them?
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?
 
There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

If you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between legitimate guests and immigrants, and invading foreign criminals; then there is no point trying to discuss any of this with you. Your entire understanding of every issue pertaining to this matter is based on a treasonous lie which you refuse to let go of.

You are the one ignoring the correlation. Both drive down wages. Both are things Trump argued against.

And Trump was dead wrong as anyone who is familiar with labor statistics knows.

Our population is getting older and baby-boomers are retiring in droves, which will be driving down Labor Participation rates, stifling economic growth and increasing dependant-to-worker ratio all the way to 2040s.

LFPRProjections.PNG


The only way to really counter that is to have an external influx of younger workers.

At one point in time these companies would train those they needed. They aren't interested in doing that any longer. We have all kinds of people being displaced with automation that are going to need jobs.

We do? unemployment is at 3.5%.

Self-odering on the phone and kiosks at McDonalds didn't really change that.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

LOL, that is simple--------------------> so many want to get in, you could replace them in a month! And guess what, they wouldn't be on the government teat!
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

We don't need to replace them, we need to give those that have been here for a while and are contributing to our economy a path to citizenship.

It's a completely do-able compromise if we had something resembling a functional Congress with a capable President.

Republicans can get their walls and tougher illegal immigration enforcement.
Democrats can get a path to citizenship for those that are already here.
 
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There is a big difference between importing skilled workers to fill a specific labor hole than just allowing one million anybodies stream across the border every year.

There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

Driving wages down in positions specifically brought in to fill a labor hole? LOL. Did you read the statement you were responding to, or does your point actually make sense to you?

You mean like this?

Disney 'forced 250 of its American IT workers to train up the Indian workers who replaced them' | Daily Mail Online

No, not like that at all. You posted an article about replacement workers. The post you responded to was about a labor hole. If there are workers in place that are being replaced, then by definition there is not a labor hole.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?
I don't understand your question.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

If you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between legitimate guests and immigrants, and invading foreign criminals; then there is no point trying to discuss any of this with you. Your entire understanding of every issue pertaining to this matter is based on a treasonous lie which you refuse to let go of.

You are the one ignoring the correlation. Both drive down wages. Both are things Trump argued against.

And Trump was dead wrong as anyone who is familiar with labor statistics knows.

Our population is getting older and baby-boomers are retiring in droves, which will be driving down Labor Participation rates, stifling economic growth and increasing dependant-to-worker ratio all the way to 2040s.

LFPRProjections.PNG


The only way to really counter that is to have an external influx of younger workers.

At one point in time these companies would train those they needed. They aren't interested in doing that any longer. We have all kinds of people being displaced with automation that are going to need jobs.

We do? unemployment is at 3.5%.

Self-odering on the phone and kiosks at McDonalds didn't really change that.

Bottom line--------------> Immigrants WE decide to let in are good, period! If we disagree, then have a conversation on which we should let in, and which one's we should not, and make it a campaign issue.

Those that come in without being invited are interlopers, law breakers, and thieves! It is our country, and WE get to invite in who we want. Everyone else----------------->apply, and we will let you know!
 
There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

If you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between legitimate guests and immigrants, and invading foreign criminals; then there is no point trying to discuss any of this with you. Your entire understanding of every issue pertaining to this matter is based on a treasonous lie which you refuse to let go of.

You are the one ignoring the correlation. Both drive down wages. Both are things Trump argued against.

And Trump was dead wrong as anyone who is familiar with labor statistics knows.

Our population is getting older and baby-boomers are retiring in droves, which will be driving down Labor Participation rates, stifling economic growth and increasing dependant-to-worker ratio all the way to 2040s.

LFPRProjections.PNG


The only way to really counter that is to prime the labor force with an influx of younger, foreign born workers.

It's not a pretty truth but unfortunately it is a truth. It has nothing to do with politics or with nationalism or exclusionism.... It just is what it is. For what it's worth foreigners who come here learn very quickly that wages can be competitive. I think many of the people who object to their presennce don't understand that these are fully documented individuals who pay the full spectrum of federal deductions. In the greater picture there is a tremendous amount of benefit for the entire nation in that aspect. I too however object to the malicious practice of replacing american-born skill with Cheaper foreign-born skill. There should be a price to pay for that practice if it's provable.

Jo
 
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There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

If you refuse to acknowledge the distinction between legitimate guests and immigrants, and invading foreign criminals; then there is no point trying to discuss any of this with you. Your entire understanding of every issue pertaining to this matter is based on a treasonous lie which you refuse to let go of.

You are the one ignoring the correlation. Both drive down wages. Both are things Trump argued against.

And Trump was dead wrong as anyone who is familiar with labor statistics knows.

Our population is getting older and baby-boomers are retiring in droves, which will be driving down Labor Participation rates, stifling economic growth and increasing dependant-to-worker ratio all the way to 2040s.

LFPRProjections.PNG


The only way to really counter that is to have an external influx of younger workers.

At one point in time these companies would train those they needed. They aren't interested in doing that any longer. We have all kinds of people being displaced with automation that are going to need jobs.

We do? unemployment is at 3.5%.

Self-odering on the phone and kiosks at McDonalds didn't really change that.

If you believe 3.5% well...........(and this isn't a slam towards Trump, the numbers have been manipulated for years.)
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

LOL, that is simple--------------------> so many want to get in, you could replace them in a month! And guess what, they wouldn't be on the government teat!

If it's that simply why don't we and how is it that they wouldn't qualify for government assistance?
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

We don't need to replace them, we need to give those that have been here for a while and are contributing to our economy a path to citizenship.

It's a completely do-able compromise if we had something resembling a functional Congress with a capable President.

Republicans can get their walls and tougher illegal immigration enforcement.
Democrats can get a path to citizenship for those that are already here.

Seems simple. Why don't we?
 
There is a big difference between importing skilled workers to fill a specific labor hole than just allowing one million anybodies stream across the border every year.

There is an important correlation between the two. Both drive down wages.

Driving wages down in positions specifically brought in to fill a labor hole? LOL. Did you read the statement you were responding to, or does your point actually make sense to you?

You mean like this?

Disney 'forced 250 of its American IT workers to train up the Indian workers who replaced them' | Daily Mail Online

No, not like that at all. You posted an article about replacement workers. The post you responded to was about a labor hole. If there are workers in place that are being replaced, then by definition there is not a labor hole.

There is no labor hole. Take applications and you will get a truck load of them. They will claim they are not trained. Then train them.
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?

LOL, that is simple--------------------> so many want to get in, you could replace them in a month! And guess what, they wouldn't be on the government teat!

If it's that simply why don't we and how is it that they wouldn't qualify for government assistance?

The ones who work for a living tend to vote conservatively.

Jo
 
I thought he argued that we were full?

'Our country is full': Trump claims emergency during border visit

It seems when corporations want them, it's all well and good.

Report: Guest Worker Program to See Boost in 2020
They're legal, they're okay for seasonal work. Two years ago there were businesses in Maine that are open for the summer tourist season only that couldn't open because the guest workers they'd had coming in for years could not get in.
With the economy as it is and unemployment in the US so low, it is hard to find enough people who don't have steady year round jobs to work a seasonal job for the summer.

So how do we replace the millions and millions here illegally?
I don't understand your question.

Yes you do. People argue to throw the millions and millions here illegally out. How do we replace them?
 

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