Trump bombs Iran

[Meister]

Yes, per Trump.
The government of Afghanistan was'n't.

They still should be.

What did you want Biden to do?

Thanks for your opinion.

As far as Biden? He should have stepped up and show that he had the balls
to be president. That was a stupid question from you.

 

[gipper]

I suspect as more information comes out, this bombing did little and rather stopping Iran’s nuclear plans will only accelerate it. Iran will now want to get the bomb as fast as possible now. The best plan to keep Iran from getting the bomb was the JCPOA which Trump tore to shreds. My original assessment of this bombing stands that it was not thought out.

This great column points out the real reason the Orange Zionist attacked Iran. It argues it was to protect US hegemony worldwide and the dominance of the US petro dollar. Certainly makes sense. The author also indicates this neocon/neoliberal effort is failing badly.


Opponents of the war with Iran say that the war is not in American interests, seeing that Iran does not pose any visible threat to the United States.

This appeal to reason misses the neoconservative logic that has guided U.S. foreign policy for more than a half century, and which is now threatening to engulf the Middle East in the most violent war since Korea.

That logic is so aggressive, so repugnant to most people, so much in violation of the basic principles of international law, the United Nations, and the U.S. Constitution, that there is an understandable shyness in the authors of this strategy to spell out what is at stake.

What is at stake is the U.S. attempt to control the Middle East and its oil as a buttress of U.S. economic power, and to prevent other countries from moving to create their own autonomy from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order administered by the IMF, World Bank, and other institutions to reinforce U.S. unipolar power.

Here is an excellent point regarding the US war budget few Americans have any understanding of. The war machine is far more costly than most Americans know.

The U.S. military budget actually is much larger than is reported in the proposed bill before Congress to approve Trump’s trillion-dollar subsidy.

Congress funds its military-industrial complex (MIC) in two ways: The obvious way is by arms purchases paid for by Congress directly. Less acknowledged is MIC spending routed via U.S. foreign military aid to its allies – Ukraine, Israel, Europe, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries – to buy U.S. arms.

This explains why the military burden is what normally accounts for the entire U.S. budget deficit and hence the rise in government debt (much of it self-financed via the Federal Reserve since 2008, to be sure).

War on Iran Is Fight for US Unipolar Control of World

 

[toomuchtime_]

Oh I’m sure it’s complicated to stupid people.

So now you've shown you're not the only idiot babbling about forever wars and archaic interpretations of the Constitution. No American president since WWII has asked for a declaration of war.

 

[gipper]

So now you've shown you're not the only idiot babbling about forever wars and archaic interpretations of the Constitution. No American president since WWII has asked for a declaration of war.

Yeah that’s right and you think it’s great. You think the president should ignore the constitution, if he so desires.

Can’t fix stupid.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Yeah that’s right and you think it’s great. You think the president should ignore the constitution, if he so desires.

Can’t fix stupid.

I think it is great that the President can defend US interests around the world when they are under attack as nearly all Americans do.

 

[playtime]

You appear to know nothing. The ayatollahs are not trying to destroy Israel and subvert the Sunni nations because of anything that happened before the 1979 revolution. They are on a mission from Allah to spread their version of Islam throughout the world Just as ISIS and al Qaeda and the other Muslim extremists are, and the ayatollahs hate Israel and the US they stand in the way. The only difference between the ayatollahs and the others is that the ayatollahs have captured a nation and the others are still trying to.

ummmm fundie mooooslems, like a lot of the world hate jewish people. we will always be the great satan to them no matter what - but this was wrong & now that fatwa might have been pushed up a bit.

 

[gipper]

I think it is great that the President can defend US interests around the world when they are under attack as nearly all Americans do.

Defend? What dupe you are. Attacking a nation on the other side of the world that hasn’t attacked us, is now considered defense. Orwell lives!!!

MIGA!!!!!!

 

[WEATHER53]

Oh I’m sure it’s complicated to stupid people.

War is of a lengthy time
An attack isn’t
Stop with the it’s illegal bullshit lying

 

[toomuchtime_]

ummmm fundie mooooslems, like a lot of the world hate jewish people. we will always be the great satan to them no matter what - but this was wrong & now that fatwa might have been pushed up a bit.

So you respond with an antisemitic slur: everybody hates Jews so it's no big deal?

Once again you demonstrate you know absolutely nothing about the ayatollahs and the other terrorist entities in the ME. Since the seventh century, Jews have been considered second class citizens legally subject to persecution under Islamic law, and no Jew, until very recently has ever enjoyed equal rights with Muslims in any Muslim nation.

That's why the Arabs are so outraged by the existence of Israel, the only place in the ME where Jews are not second class citizens subject to persecution by Muslims. The persecution of Jews has been a core value of Islamic culture, law and religion since the beginning of Islamic civilization, and there is no rational basis for thinking this extraordinary hatred of Jews had anything to do with any actual actions by Israel or the US.

 

[gipper]

War is of a lengthy time
An attack isn’t
Stop with the it’s illegal bullshit lying

Meaningless response. The debate here is about the constitutionality of Trump’s attack. Clearly it’s unconstitutional like so many unilateral military actions taken by many presidents.

The war machine is bankrupting America. The vast majority of the national debt can be assigned to the non-stop wars.

When will Americans wake up?

 

[Tyrion234]

I don't care if they have nukes or not.

Nukes are not the magic bullet you think they are.

We have nukes.
Russia has Nukes
China has nukes
Israel has nukes
North Korea has Nukes
Pakistan has Nukes
the UK has nukes
For reasons I can't quite understand, France has nukes.

Which of those countries has declared “death to America” publicly for years?

 

[gipper]

Which of those countries has declared “death to America” publicly for years?

Do you think we should go to war with a nation if a few people chant death to America?

 

[Tyrion234]

There's nothing scarier than a lunatic who thinks he's doing "God's Will".

If the Jews are God's Chosen people, why did God let Hitler kill half of them?

The Nazis thought they were doing "God's Will". They wore belt buckles that read "Gott mit Uns" (God's With Us)

So instead of looking to an imaginary sky fairy to validate your worst instincts, come up with a logical reason why it's a good idea to be involved in PERPETUAL War in the Middle East.

Because, frankly, when I was a young man, I was in the military and we did that.

Now I'm an old man, and we are still doing it.

When does it end?

Probably could end when we allow asshole aggressive terrorist states to develop nukes

 

[Tyrion234]

This great column points out the real reason the Orange Zionist attacked Iran. It argues it was to protect US hegemony worldwide and the dominance of the US petro dollar. Certainly makes sense. The author also indicates this neocon/neoliberal effort is failing badly.


Opponents of the war with Iran say that the war is not in American interests, seeing that Iran does not pose any visible threat to the United States.

This appeal to reason misses the neoconservative logic that has guided U.S. foreign policy for more than a half century, and which is now threatening to engulf the Middle East in the most violent war since Korea.

That logic is so aggressive, so repugnant to most people, so much in violation of the basic principles of international law, the United Nations, and the U.S. Constitution, that there is an understandable shyness in the authors of this strategy to spell out what is at stake.

What is at stake is the U.S. attempt to control the Middle East and its oil as a buttress of U.S. economic power, and to prevent other countries from moving to create their own autonomy from the U.S.-centered neoliberal order administered by the IMF, World Bank, and other institutions to reinforce U.S. unipolar power.

Here is an excellent point regarding the US war budget few Americans have any understanding of. The war machine is far more costly than most Americans know.

The U.S. military budget actually is much larger than is reported in the proposed bill before Congress to approve Trump’s trillion-dollar subsidy.

Congress funds its military-industrial complex (MIC) in two ways: The obvious way is by arms purchases paid for by Congress directly. Less acknowledged is MIC spending routed via U.S. foreign military aid to its allies – Ukraine, Israel, Europe, South Korea, Japan, and other Asian countries – to buy U.S. arms.

This explains why the military burden is what normally accounts for the entire U.S. budget deficit and hence the rise in government debt (much of it self-financed via the Federal Reserve since 2008, to be sure).

War on Iran Is Fight for US Unipolar Control of World

So like…..when’s the UN coming to get us for being so wrong with our selfish actions and stuff

 

[Tyrion234]

Do you think we should go to war with a nation if a few people chant death to America?

A “few people” lmfao their ******* leaders you dumb fool

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[dudmuck]

 

[gipper]

A “few people” lmfao their ******* leaders you dumb fool

So I will assume you would attack a nation who’s leaders say those words. Would you carpet bomb their cities mass murdering women and children?

 

[gipper]

So like…..when’s the UN coming to get us for being so wrong with our selfish actions and stuff

Never. The US government controls the UN.

What a dumb question.