Trump approves major arms shipments to the Ukraine

[Cellblock2429]

My solution is to continue to support Ukraine until Russia folds. I hope that is what Trump does. I think it’s funny all the anti war right wing nuts are now changing tunes. Zero allegiance to ideology 100% allegiance to a man.

/---/ We are changing tunes, as you put it, because Putin is not interested in ending the war. He talks peace with Trump then after he hangs up, he bombs another Ukrainian city. Are we happy about it. No, but we now have no option.

When dealing with a madman, you have to put him down. BTW, Bidum only sent Ukraine just enough weapons to maintain a stalemate. NATO is sending offensive weapons that can reach Moscow.

Trump reveals Melania's key role in dealing with Putin on Ukraine war

President Trump threatens Putin with 100% tariffs if no Ukraine peace deal is reached within 50 days, while confirming arms sales to NATO to support Ukrainian resistance.

www.foxnews.com

First lady points out Russian attacks that follow diplomatic calls between Trump and Putin​

"I go home. I tell the first lady, ‘You know, I spoke to Vladimir today. We had a wonderful conversation.’ She said, ‘Oh, really? another city was just hit,'" he said.

"There's times I'd get home. I'd say, 'First lady, I had the most wonderful talk with Vladimir. I think we're finished.' And then I'll turn on the television, or she'll say to me one time, ‘Wow, that’s strange because they just bombed a nursing home,'" Trump recalled in another conversation. "I'd say, ‘What?’"

Moscow has repeatedly attacked Ukraine with drones and missiles following calls between Putin and Trump.

 

[Correll]

/---/ We are changing tunes, as you put it, because Putin is not interested in ending the war. He talks peace with Trump then after he hangs up, he bombs another Ukrainian city. Are we happy about it. No, but we now have no option.

....

And lefties act like this is a failure on OUR part.

They are either completely stupid, or completely bad faith actors.

 

[Cellblock2429]

And lefties act like this is a failure on OUR part.

They are either completely stupid, or completely bad faith actors.

/----/ Or both.

 

[rightwinger]

Peace was always so easy. Russia never wanted anything more than security against US aggression.

I didn’t see anyone invading Russia

Putin has just made NATO stronger

 

[citygator]

Trump is President. Of course it is "his war to manage".

That's was a weird thing to say. ANd in no way is that... a failure of his, or a dig at him.

The war is Russia's fault. Not Trump's. Not Bidens. Not Zelensky's. Not NATO's. It's Russia's fault. I am not sure why the right wing of America wants to deflect the blame and make it anyone else's.

 

[Correll]

The war is Russia's fault. Not Trump's. Not Bidens. Not Zelensky's. Not NATO's. It's Russia's fault. I am not sure why the right wing of America wants to deflect the blame and make it anyone else's.

You said it's "his war to manage". That sounded like you were blaming him for it.

If not, why did you say that?

 

[citygator]

Dude. You think we are changing our tune becaue you listened not to us, but to what your partisan media told you, was our position.


MAGA is right where we have always been on this issue.

If you think otherwise, you have been lied to. By your friends.

Trump and MAGA opposed aid to Ukraine... until they didnt. Its all over this board as proof.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[citygator]

You said it's "his war to manage". That sounded like you were blaming him for it.

If not, why did you say that?

I said that in response to an accusation it was Biden's war. Its not. Its Russia's. And right wing nuts who thought Trump was going to charm the pants of Putin and end the war on day one are finding out the emperor has on clothes. This ends when Russia runs out of will or money or Ukraine runs out of support.

 

[Correll]

Trump and MAGA opposed aid to Ukraine... until they didnt. Its all over this board as proof.

That is like looking at a fireman and acccusing him of being a vandal because he sprays water on people's homes.

 

[citygator]

/---/ We are changing tunes, as you put it, because Putin is not interested in ending the war. He talks peace with Trump then after he hangs up, he bombs another Ukrainian city. Are we happy about it. No, but we now have no option.

I think it's obvious that Trump ran on it being that easy and found out the hard way that Biden was handling it the only way it can be handled. Trump finds out a lot of his plans are based on him overestimating his influence. Mexico paying for the wall. Repeal and replace. Balance the budget. End the war in 24 hours. 90 deals in 90 days. List goes on forever.

 

[Correll]

I said that in response to an accusation it was Biden's war. Its not. Its Russia's. And right wing nuts who thought Trump was going to charm the pants of Putin and end the war on day one are finding out the emperor has on clothes. This ends when Russia runs out of will or money or Ukraine runs out of support.

1. I'm afraid I am not up on the early stages of the war.

2. MAGA never thought, nor said, that the way to get peace was to have Trump "charm" Putin.

Anyone who told you that, was lying about us, and thought you were a willful dupe, who wanted to be lied to and so would not think about what you were being told.


This is where, if you are a serious person, you would ask me, so how did MAGA think Trump would get PUtin to end the war.

That would be your next post. This is a test. I assume you will fail.

 

[JoeB131]

The plan works as follows: the weapons will go through NATO and NATO will ship the weapons to the Ukraine. NATO will pay for the weapons.

It is a win for the Ukraine and a win for the US.

Sending weapons to help the Ukraine defend itself against Russian aggression is a thousand times more preferable than the US having to send its own troops if Russia attacks a NATO ally.

I seldom praise Trump, but I will on this deal.

I wonder how MAGAs feel who have so often said they have nothing but disdain for the Ukraine and wanted the US out of it altogether.

Was this another reversal by Trump, just like on the Epstein files?

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/14/trump-sends-weapons-ukraine-00451109

I think everyone would agree that I'm not MAGA, but the war in Ukraine has become an exercise in futility.

What are they even hoping to accomplish at this point? Restore the 2014 borders? That's not happening.

 

[citygator]

1. I'm afraid I am not up on the early stages of the war.

2. MAGA never thought, nor said, that the way to get peace was to have Trump "charm" Putin.

Anyone who told you that, was lying about us, and thought you were a willful dupe, who wanted to be lied to and so would not think about what you were being told.


This is where, if you are a serious person, you would ask me, so how did MAGA think Trump would get PUtin to end the war.

That would be your next post. This is a test. I assume you will fail.

You cant speak for MAGA, you can only cite for me Trump's promises to MAGA that they voted him in office to execute. But I will do that for you:

• “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.” (CNN town hall, May 2023)
• “There’s a very easy negotiation to take place… I will have it solved within one day, a peace between them.” (Debate with Sean Hannity, March 2023)
• “That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president.” (During 2024 campaign)
• Trump’s Agenda 47 platform stated: “Negotiating an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 24 hours.”

I assume you voted for that.. but I am open to some other plan you think Trump communicated to you that you voted for.

 

[candycorn]

yes, got no issue with it. Better then simply handing them boat loads of cash

Arming a nation you say is corrupt with military hardware is preferable?

Yep..seek the psychological help you need...and do it quickly.

 

[candycorn]

MAGA is right where we have always been on this issue.

Thanks for the chuckle. Any more comedy?

 

[Correll]

You cant speak for MAGA, you can only cite for me Trump's promises to MAGA that they voted him in office to execute. But I will do that for you:

• “They’re dying, Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done — I’ll have that done in 24 hours.” (CNN town hall, May 2023)
• “There’s a very easy negotiation to take place… I will have it solved within one day, a peace between them.” (Debate with Sean Hannity, March 2023)
• “That is a war that’s dying to be settled. I will get it settled before I even become president.” (During 2024 campaign)
• Trump’s Agenda 47 platform stated: “Negotiating an end to the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 24 hours.”

I assume you voted for that.. but I am open to some other plan you think Trump communicated to you that you voted for.

on some things I can speak for maga, on clear and simple facts.


Note that nothing in what you posted, supports your claim that Trump was planning on succeeding based on his CHARM.

******* NOTHING.

one more chance to be a serious person.


This is where, if you are a serious person, you would ask me, so how did MAGA think Trump would get PUtin to end the war.

 

[candycorn]

This was never about the Ukraine being corrupt or not.

They're no more (or less) corrupt than we are--I was highlighting the hypocrisy of your fellow blobber.

This is about Putin refusing to be reasonable so Trump is applying leverage.

And when Biden "applied leverage" you screamed like the little ***** that you are. Shove the hypocrisy up your ass.

 

[citygator]

on some things I can speak for maga, on clear and simple facts.


Note that nothing in what you posted, supports your claim that Trump was planning on succeeding based on his CHARM.

******* NOTHING.

one more chance to be a serious person.


This is where, if you are a serious person, you would ask me, so how did MAGA think Trump would get PUtin to end the war.

How did YOU think he was going to end the war in 24 hours with a phone call?

 

[Correll]

Arming a nation you say is corrupt with military hardware is preferable?

Yep..seek the psychological help you need...and do it quickly.

Who the **** CARES, if the nation that you are selling arms to, is "corrupt" or not?


The money is in my pocket, they can use the arms to fight for their survival or they can play with themselves, either way it is on them.

How does their "Corruption" or lack of it, matter to US?