Trump and Musk are getting rid of the CIA, the FBI and the entire Federal Department

[Luckyone]

How is USAIDS and the CIA “the backbone” of everything in the US?

You people are such drama queens.

The CIA keep our enemies away and USAID keeps our friends on our side. Safety is part of our life as everyone that is not American is a potential enemy.

 

[konradv]

Simply retooling of agencies that had become self serving and self preserving
Libs trying to gin up panic because they know anti American lib policies and interferences are ending

What Trump and Musk are doing is illegal or they wouldn’t be going about it in the manner of a frat house panty raid, including actual frat bois!

 

[WEATHER53]

Changing your username from 'The Banker' to 'Luckyone' reveals your desire to be deceptive. All of your posts are full of hyperbole and baseless assertions. You are a phony.

It’s incredible that at a minimum 25 posters have at least 2 screen nsmes and some of the paids three.
Your point that they are deceptive and dishonest thus phony by using this method is Absolutely Correct

 

[22lcidw]

The rubes are told by the voices they trust that the government is out to get them and must be destroyed. Standard, ignorant, shallow GQP paranoia.

Unable to question what they are told, they haven't thought this through. If it's more than half an inch deep, they don't want to know.

Perhaps the law is pushed and use in a very uneven manner and there are those who do not answer to the law at all. A litigious society is the result of everything we do. And many people do not even use attorneys that can.

 

[Luckyone]

Over here we say , Tough Titty .

Your position collapses when, with a straight face presumably , you tell us that "Everything" that has been Democratically built will be destroyed .
You have immediately "lost" a sympathetic audience .

People in general find that sort of statement amusing , if not hilarious .

Resrtricting the past to just the Biden era--- keeping it simple ---- people have never lived through or imagined such a period of corruption and dishonesty ..
They loathe and detest those who were in power and abused it .

So .
For a time, any change will be a good change, and if you do not like it --- Tough Titty .

MY POSITION? that is funny. Turn on the TV or go to Google or Bing and read. What I just stated is what is being stated everywhere and not just by anti-Trumpers but by everyone else in the world.

This is not "the way I look at it" but what Trump's actions mean to any intelligent person.

Then again, I should not be surprised of your post. You don't qualify as "intelligent".

 

[WEATHER53]

It’s incredible that at a minimum 25 posters have at least 2 screen nsmes and some of the paids three.
Your point that they are deceptive and dishonest thus phony by using this method is Absolutely Correct

I love thumb down on fact statements. Only lib loons will thumbs down reality. It’s a huge part of their overall problem

 

[wamose]

Trump and Musk are getting rid of the FBI, the CIA and the entire Federal Department.

They have sent all the employees of these departments notices of dismissal. Many of these employees have worked there for their entire lives and are now facing unemployment.


Trump administration offers federal workers a buyout to

CIA offers buyouts to workforce as Trump administration ...

Trump, Musk officials move against USAID. 'We're shutting ...​

Economic growth will slow and unemployment rise, CBO ...​

Trump has not offered or shown how he is going to replace these agencies that are the backbone of the United States. These agencies represent the heart and circulation of our country. Without them, the country will not have safety or insurance against injustice, attacks from enemies (inner or outer) or ability to function in supplying people with their needs.

This is his answer this question:


To me, this is an act of destroying everything that has been Democratically built over the past 248 years (based on the Constitution) and replacing it with a dictator-like government where only 1 person (Trump) makes decisions. All of this has been done with executive orders (from Trump and Musk). Congress has not been involved in these decisions.

Are you looking for a dictatorship...........you have one now. If you are desiring a continuation of the Democracy we have had for 248 years..............you have now lost it.

Of course, if you want Democracy to continue and are against what Trump is doing............you are suffering from TDS. In other words, if you are for having a Democratic Republic you must be a druggie.

If spying on Presidential candidates, making phony FISA applications, giving false testimony, selectively leaking false information, inciting riots and having a blatant liberal bias are all good things, then they did nothing wrong.

 

[Luckyone]

I wonder why the left is so fearful of a simple federal audit? Very few of these special programs are authorized in the US Constitution. Regardless, the supposed Justice departments and military serve the Commander in Chief. Elections have consequences. Instead of using Trillions of tax payers dollars to nation build around the globe........these savings can now be used to make solvent programs such as the VA and Social Security. Under the status quo the democrats demand remains.....SS will be broke in a couple of decades because the politicians can't keep their hands out of the tax payer cookie jar.

This DOGE audit is about 4 decades overdue. Really? Spending 50 million for terrorists rubbers? What other kick back money laundering expenditures will the audit reveal? That's what scares the hell out of the democrats. Or does anyone really believe the middle east received a shipment of 50 million dollars worth of rubbers? And if they did........what democrat congressional representative has some in law, brother, uncle etc., that received the contract to provide the rubbers?

Watch this video and answer the question "did he ever come up with the health plan he talked about?"



Why shouldn't we worry about this promise, when he has shown such a high failure rate on promises before?

What is worse is that while he was promising a change in health care (that he never provided), Obamacare continued to give health care to millions of people. Here, he is getting rid of all federal agencies and has not yet come up with a plan of how to replace them. That means that while we wait and hope there is a plan, we have nothing right now.

 

[konradv]

If spying on Presidential candidates, making phony FISA applications, giving false testimony, selectively leaking false information, inciting riots and having a blatant liberal bias are all good things, then they did nothing wrong.

MAGA lies.

 

[Luckyone]

Well folks, what have we here. A poser who actually believes the government is his friend.
Even Jesus said beware of the leaven of herod.

I never said "government is my friend" Fact is that every single nation in the entire world has a government (government is a fact and is always needed) but some governments are bad and some governments are good. Nonetheless, no government is perfect (meaning you can always find something wrong in any government). As such, you have to pick the government that has more good than bad.

Having said all of the above, I want you to show me what present government in the entire world that presently exists that is better than ours!

 

[Luckyone]

If spying on Presidential candidates, making phony FISA applications, giving false testimony, selectively leaking false information, inciting riots and having a blatant liberal bias are all good things, then they did nothing wrong.

Give me a present government in the entire world that you would exchange for ours

 

[WEATHER53]

Give me a present government in the entire world that you would exchange for ours

Constant name changer who in reality tries to hide and is phony

 

[Luckyone]

Constant name changer who in reality tries to hide and is phony

I am asking you a question that addresses your complaint about what our Federal government has done. You criticizing our Federal government means you have seen some other government that is better. Show it to me

 

[luiza]

MY POSITION? that is funny. Turn on the TV or go to Google or Bing and read. What I just stated is what is being stated everywhere and not just by anti-Trumpers but by everyone else in the world.

This is not "the way I look at it" but what Trump's actions mean to any intelligent person.

Your view is precisely that . Just your Own ..

Most people even here look at you in surprise, seeing somebody out of balance and sounding like someone with a mini Messiah complex .
Your best bet might be to go BackAgain , seek assistance and hopefully return less muddled and less sour .

With regard to Intelligence -- remind me of your Mensa score .Can you really beat155 ?

 

[Luckyone]

Your view is precisely that . Just your Own ..

Most people even here look at you in surprise, seeing somebody out of balance and sounding like someone with a mini Messiah complex .
Your best bet might be to go BackAgain , seek assistance and hopefully return less muddled and less sour .

With regard to Intelligence -- remind me of your Mensa score .Can you really beat155 ?

I can give you video after video and news articles from the entire world that are saying what I am saying. Can you do the same, as far as supporting your views?

 

[Billiejeens]

The CIA keep our enemies away and USAID keeps our friends on our side. Safety is part of our life as everyone that is not American is a potential enemy.

This is great news.
Thank you.

 

[Billiejeens]

MAGA lies.

Weird
None of those are even in dispute.

 

[Nobody911]

Trump and Musk are getting rid of the FBI, the CIA and the entire Federal Department.

They have sent all the employees of these departments notices of dismissal. Many of these employees have worked there for their entire lives and are now facing unemployment.


Trump administration offers federal workers a buyout to

CIA offers buyouts to workforce as Trump administration ...

Trump, Musk officials move against USAID. 'We're shutting ...​

Economic growth will slow and unemployment rise, CBO ...​

Trump has not offered or shown how he is going to replace these agencies that are the backbone of the United States. These agencies represent the heart and circulation of our country. Without them, the country will not have safety or insurance against injustice, attacks from enemies (inner or outer) or ability to function in supplying people with their needs.

This is his answer this question:


To me, this is an act of destroying everything that has been Democratically built over the past 248 years (based on the Constitution) and replacing it with a dictator-like government where only 1 person (Trump) makes decisions. All of this has been done with executive orders (from Trump and Musk). Congress has not been involved in these decisions.

Are you looking for a dictatorship...........you have one now. If you are desiring a continuation of the Democracy we have had for 248 years..............you have now lost it.

Of course, if you want Democracy to continue and are against what Trump is doing............you are suffering from TDS. In other words, if you are for having a Democratic Republic you must be a druggie.

Balance is necessary. Without balance, Musk's rockets wouldn't blast off. If there were no balance in accounts, Trump's businesses would fail.

Recent reports indicate that Donald Trump and Elon Musk are indeed pursuing significant changes within federal agencies, particularly targeting the CIA and USAID. However, the claim that they are entirely "getting rid of" these agencies is an exaggeration.

Key Developments

- CIA Buyout Offers: The CIA has initiated a buyout program for its entire workforce, encouraging employees who do not align with the Trump administration's vision to resign. This offer includes approximately eight months of salary and benefits, reflecting a broader strategy by Trump to reshape the federal bureaucracy with loyal supporters[1][2][3][4][6].

- FBI Changes: Trump's Justice Department has begun removing FBI agents involved in investigations related to him, signaling a shift in priorities within federal law enforcement[2][4].

- USAID Closure: Musk has announced plans to dismantle USAID, with Trump reportedly agreeing to this initiative. Employees have been instructed to avoid the agency's headquarters as part of this restructuring effort[5][7].

Conclusion

While there are substantial efforts underway to restructure these agencies, including buyouts and potential closures, the assertion that Trump and Musk are completely eliminating the CIA, FBI, and other federal departments is misleading. Instead, they are implementing significant changes aimed at aligning these agencies more closely with their political goals.

sources:
[1] Trump’s Purge Finds a Troubling New Target: The CIA
[2] CIA offers buyouts to entire workforce in intelligence agency first: Report
[3] CIA offers buyout to entire workforce
[4] https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/04/politics/cia-workforce-buyouts/index.html
[5] Trump and Musk move to dismantle USAID, igniting battle with Democratic lawmakers
[6] C.I.A. Extends Resignation Offers as Effort to Shrink Work Force Spreads
[7] USAID security chiefs put on leave after trying to stop Musk's team from accessing classified info, officials say
[8] https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/the-cia-is-about-to-get-a-trump-makeover-16fc0cbf
[9] Trump Live Updates: Musk-Led Federal Buyouts Expand to CIA as White House Eyes Cuts
[10] Trump’s “Buyout” Purge Comes for the CIA

The question of whether U.S. federal agencies should remain neutral is a topic of significant debate, with arguments supporting both sides.

Arguments for Neutrality

1. Public Trust: Federal employees are expected to enforce laws impartially, fostering public trust in government institutions. The Hatch Act, which restricts political activities of federal employees, underscores the importance of maintaining a neutral stance to avoid any perceived bias in governance [1][5].

2. Effective Governance: A neutral bureaucracy is believed to enhance the effectiveness of government operations. By focusing on expertise and professionalism rather than political affiliations, agencies can implement policies based on evidence and best practices, leading to better outcomes for the public [3][9].

3. Accountability and Stability: Neutrality helps ensure that changes in political leadership do not disrupt the continuity of government services. This stability is crucial for long-term planning and implementation of policies that serve the public interest, regardless of the political climate [4][9].

Arguments Against Strict Neutrality

1. Democratic Responsiveness: Some argue that federal agencies should reflect the political will of elected officials to ensure accountability. This perspective suggests that civil servants should not be completely insulated from political influences, as they are ultimately implementing policies decided by democratically elected leaders [3][9].

2. Challenges in Practice: The concept of neutrality can be complicated by real-world situations where decisions must be made based on incomplete information or changing circumstances. Critics argue that strict adherence to neutrality can hinder agencies from responding effectively to urgent issues [4].

3. Political Pressures: In practice, federal agencies often face political pressures that can influence their operations, regardless of formal neutrality policies. This reality raises questions about the feasibility and desirability of maintaining absolute neutrality in a politically charged environment [2][9].

Conclusion

While neutrality in federal agencies is aimed at promoting fairness and effectiveness, it also faces challenges related to accountability and responsiveness to elected officials. Balancing these aspects is crucial for ensuring that federal agencies serve the public interest while remaining effective and trustworthy.

sources:
[1] https://www.justice.gov/jmd/file/834486/dl
[2] Supreme Court to decide scope of federal agency power | USC Gould School of Law
[3] https://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/2023-06/regulation-v46n2-4.pdf
[4] https://digitalcommons.law.buffalo.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4910&context=buffalolawreview
[5] https://osc.gov/Services/Pages/HatchAct-Federal.aspx
[6] https://www.kff.org/private-insuran...-have-far-reaching-impacts-for-health-policy/
[7] https://www.energy.gov/gc/articles/partisan-political-activity-restrictions
[8] https://www.theregreview.org/2020/0...-most-of-federal-government-unconstitutional/
[9] https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2...ip-and-efforts-overhaul-civil-service/390345/
[10] https://osc.gov/Documents/Hatch Act/Advisory Opinions/Federal/Social Media and Email FAQs.pdf

 

[Rogue AI]

The CIA keep our enemies away and USAID keeps our friends on our side. Safety is part of our life as everyone that is not American is a potential enemy.

If you have to pay them, they aren't your friends. I hope I didn't just ruin your life...

 

[WEATHER53]

Your view is precisely that . Just your Own ..

Most people even here look at you in surprise, seeing somebody out of balance and sounding like someone with a mini Messiah complex .
Your best bet might be to go BackAgain , seek assistance and hopefully return less muddled and less sour .

With regard to Intelligence -- remind me of your Mensa score .Can you really beat155 ?

Multiple name changes over a brief period of time equates to a coward running to hide its identity and what is attributed.
Should not be allowed, its deceit and deception and phony