Trump and company’s NY Civil case penalty struck down

[marvin martian]

What grounds would SCOTUS have to throw the whole thing out?

Same grounds the lower court just used - the 8th amendment.

 

[Delldude]

Saying an indictment is in process is a lie.

I never said one was.

 

[Marener]

They just said not guilty of that

They didn't. They said the fine was excessive but the fraud happened.

You shut in dependents have no idea how banking and appraisals work yet you prattle on endlessly

It's not even a question of bank appraisals, but lying on a statement of financial condition.

“He overstated the value of his property “ when the banks felt no loss nor irregularity and pursued nothing. The witch hunting imbeciles pursued it all. The liars are in fact You

Did the banks feel any loss or irregularity and pursue anything with Schiff? Or is it just a witch hunt?

 

[The Duke]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/21/trump-fraud-new-york-appeals.html

Another gotcha gone by the wayside. What new lawfare can they dream up.....

Now I want to see a conviction for malicious prosecution.
Think Blondi doesn't have the chops if you want to, but I know she does.

 

[The Duke]

The judgement itself was upheld.

Now James will appeal to the NY Supreme Court to reinstate the penalty, or part of it. I find it impossible to believe that they will not reinstate a portion of the penalty.

Yeah, but you're a commie shill retard, so..

 

[Delldude]

What grounds would SCOTUS have to throw the whole thing out?

Read the dissent.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trumps a "Fascist" because an appeals court overturned one of the stupid ******* cases in NY History??

Really?

Actually, they upheld the case.

Slooooow down, Frank.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump should sue for lawyer's fees and a multi-million judgement for judicial maleficence.

Which would be pretty stupid since the judgment was upheld by the appeals court.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He broke no laws as anyone with a basic understanding of what CIVIL FRAUD means knew all along

That's a lie, and it was well established in the trial that he did indeed violate the law by submitting false financial statements.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have never heard the saying that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich????

The republicand sure have had a hard time finding ham sandwiches!!!

By the way, the criminal that invented that saying was convicted of his crimes.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

They just said not guilty of that

Lie.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/21/trump-fraud-new-york-appeals.html

Another gotcha gone by the wayside. What new lawfare can they dream up.....

Calm the **** down and pull yourself together. Lawfare? Not really. He was by no means absolved or exonerated of his crimes. Apparently your too lazy, and to busy slobbering over the headline to read beyond it. From your own link:

But the court in the same ruling upheld Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Arthur Engoron’s finding that Trump and the others committed business fraud by overstating the value of real estate assets owned by the Trump Organization to boost Trump’s purported net worth. Those actions helped the company get better loan terms and other financial benefits.

The ruling Thursday also upheld nonmonetary sanctions imposed by Engoron on the defendants, saying they were “well crafted to curb defendants’ business culture.”

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yea, dumbass, the judges voted 5-0 to repeal the fine. Did you take the short bus to school?

And the fraud claim stands along with other penalties.

They didn't reverse the decision, they reversed only the $$$.

We used a full sized bus to the gifted center.

WW

 

[WorldWatcher]

https://nycourts.gov/courts/AD1/calendar/AppsMots/2025/apps/20250821/2023-04925,%20et%20ano..pdf

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I've got to say though after trying to skim through the 322 pages of the ruling.

This is a hot mess.

WW

 

[WEATHER53]

That was for the lenders to determine prior to consummating any deal.

But witch hunters did it for them
The banks did all their traditional due diligence . This was a mad rush “get hum now” ruse

 

[Rogue AI]

No, they upheld the entire judgment and all nonmonetary penalties. James will appeal to have the fine or a portion of it reinstated.

She'll lose, that whole sham should never have seen a courtroom.

 

[Edgetho]

But witch hunters did it for them
The banks did all their traditional due drluvrnce. This was a mad rush “get hum now” ruse

gutless, nutless liberturdian Andrew Napolitano discusses the possibility of Trump winning a civil-rights lawsuit against the state of New York and the obese beefy lesbian and former All-Star Buffalo Bills center "Tish" James.

I have no evidence that she was a former All-Star Buffalo Bills starting center, apart from the fact that she weighs three bills and looks like she can deliver a heckuva forearm shiver.

He says that the obese beefy lesbian and her Blue Ribbon Winning Heifer election promises to prosecute Trump for an offense to be determined later aren't enough, in themselves, to prove a civil rights violation, as the law requires an abuse of an office that someone has already won. That is, her pre-election promises to violate Trump's civil rights were made as a civilian, not a political official, and aren't proof of her crimes in themselves.

However, he says that those statements will be evidence of intent to violate Trump's civil rights, and if any emails are discovered in which the obese beefy lesbian talks about getting Trump for political reasons while in office -- which he thinks will probably be discovered -- then she can be found liable. (Unfortunately this would be a civil suit, not a criminal one.)

If she or any of her staffers mention pleasing her voting base in an email discussing the Trump frame-up, that's evidence of a conspiracy to deprive Trump of his civil rights.

He points out that Nifong in the Duke Fake Rape Case was sued successfully for a deliberate violation of a defendant's civil rights for political reasons.

 

[Delldude]

 

[Foxfyre]

You have never heard the saying that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich???? Trump did not commit fraud... but ironically Tish did....

The 'crimes' Trump was deemed guilty of were literally dictated to the jury by a corrupt judge who put a spin on the law I have never seen, that most have never seen. The judge himself started off the proceedings by declaring Trump guilty. The judge was corrupt to the core.

A hand picked jury no doubt highly partisan jury was not allowed any choice in what verdict they were to return.

Trump's 'crimes' were doing business the way every large business person in America does business. They were 'crimes' that no one has ever been indicted much less convicted for before by anybody.

The only purpose of that trial was to give dishonorable Democrats opportunity to use the word 'felon' in their propaganda no matter how dishonest that was.

 

[WEATHER53]

And the fraud claim stands along with other penalties.

They didn't reverse the decision, they reversed only the $$$.

We used a full sized bus to the gifted center.

WW

Trump won’t be paying money . What that means to a thinking mind is no fine because no crime to pay a fine for. What it means to you feelers is that you still “got him”