Clipper
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It could be Felon47 himself who's hearing voices in his head again & who's a deranged lunatic to begin with.
Trump Again Claims Tariffs Will Result in Large Income Tax Cuts
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Clipper
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task0778
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Yeah, and we will suffer without their market, especially the lower income people that get by with cheaper imported stuff mainly from China. And neither gov't really cares who ultimately pays the costs of tariffs.
Clipper
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What "supply chains" are you referring to? The ones Trump is hearing in his head?
Clipper
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Yea, ok. If you want to listen to & believe those voices in your head, keep them to yourself. They're leading you astray. Look what happened to Trump.
Harry Dresden
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medicare?....mine went from 524 to 575.....President Biden's 2025 Budget: Protects Medicare and Lowers Health Care Costs for American Families
President Biden’s 2025 budget offers a dramatically different vision for Americans’ access to health care compared to House Republicans’ 2025 budget.democrats-budget.house.gov
BluesLegend
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Government Dems taking MY money and pretending to pay taxes with it isn't pay taxes.
Crepitus
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your anecdote is noted and dismissed.
candycorn
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Someone should remind you of the piece of lowlife shit you support. You seem to have forgotten that he put pennies over people....and naively believe that he gives two shits about those people now.
But congratulations... To your credit, you didn't rationalize, you didn't try to justify it...you didn't deny it happened. You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy. What nobody on "my side" can figure out is why you feel that he does now.
I mean...are you that idiotic? Remember when he promised no taxes on tips or OT...no tax on SS? What happened to that in the latest Republican budget proposals? Somehow the tax cuts for gazillionaires made it. Taxes on workers...they are all still in place.
The reason people look at MAGA and see nothing but bitter white nationalists is because there is nothing--nothing--else that is supported by reality. Trump fucked over workers when he was a capitalist (which he still is and still does), and now he's ******* over workers and all middle income Americans as President.
Trump says US taking in $2 billion a day from tariffs
Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › world › trump-says-us-takin...
Apr 8, 2025 — U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday the United States is taking in $2 billion per day from tariffs.
Trump praises Bezos over Amazon's tariff dispute
The Hill
https://thehill.com › business › personal-finance › 5273...
12 hours ago — Trump says Bezos 'did the right thing' by not displaying tariff costs on Amazon. President Trump said Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos did the right thing.
The White House had bashed Amazon for the reported plans, calling it a “hostile and political act.”
“Why didn’t Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest levels in 40 years?” press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters, “This is another reason why Americans should buy American.
It’s another reason why we are onshoring critical supply chains here at home, to shore up our own critical supply chain and boost our own manufacturing.”
Now, why wouldn't Trump want customers to see all the "profits"?
I think we are about 30 years too late, to bring it all back....and even if brought back, it will likely be automated and computer run and won't benefit manufacturing people with high paying jobs.
Though as you mentioned, other jobs like truckers could be increased by it....not enough to make a difference imo, because they already move the goods across the country from a west coast port, so moving it from a factory in the USA simply replaces the port movement.... If even that.
And then we face all the high paying port jobs will be eliminated without the China and Asian/Indonesian hordes of cheap goods coming in...those very good paying jobs at the ports throughout the USA gone....and there are a gazillion truckers making good money running from those ports....all could be drastically cut.... While giving an automated robot a job?
it's just been too long of free trade, where other industries developed here and prospered here to cut it off at this point, imo
And so many small businesses rely on the very cheap goods from China for their businesses like Stationary Shops, Souvenir Shops, Fireworks Markets, fabric shops, gadget shops, where US Made products are too expensive for them to make a profit....tariffs are killing all of these businesses....mostly of 1 or 2 persons selling on Etsy, Ebay, Amazon.... And those are selling platforms created because of the imported cheap goods, that could also be hurt...
And just because it is brought back, many components of their manufacturing widget, are made in a foreign country.... So called free trade after the past 30 years is far and wide now.
And in the 30 years of off shoring our manufacturing, those who created this plan and their conspirator businesses here, were able to keep our pay lower and their payroll expense lower, because we were kept just hitting the edge of happy with all the cheap goods....so our pay is so much lower than it needs to be, to afford USA made goods....we've also have been trained to expect cheap goods...
This whole trade and tariff thing is deeper than a pie....there are so many aspects of USA living that took the past 40 years of free trade to work through,
it can't change with a flip of a switch, overnight....it'll take decades of suffering, before it gets better, if ever.
That being said, maybe our approach should be on higher priced goods being brought home, and tech type goods that have proprietary features that we don't want the Chinese to steal, and key necessities made at home, like our medicines, or military stuff....
These are areas where there is ability to pay quality hands, to make their quality goods.
Mac-7
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You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy.
You are such a liar
Its clear that Trump cares very deeply about the economy and the future of America
Otherwise he would be a do-nothing president instead of a transformative one
At his age it would be so easy to be a Calvin Coolidge or Joe Biden and just enjoy the perks of the office
If you were not blinded by bitterness you could see that
Harry Dresden
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why?....you said it did not increase....give an answer crep...
Zincwarrior
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candycorn
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Well, you admitted he had shit made in China. What do you call that--caring about the American Economy.
Is that why the Stockmarket is sluggish, recession is being predicted, layoffs are taking place in manufacturing?
He isn’t doing anything.
For example...outside of his rhethoric...can you name the details one trade deal he’s negotiated? He is doing the ethnic cleansing that folks like applaud.
Like golf every weekend?
Supply some actual facts and enlighten me. Not his bluster...facts.
DOGE supposedly uncovered trilions in fraud.
Has anyone been arrested for all of this fraud?
Mac-7
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I did more than admit it
Its nothing to be ashamed of
For the past 30 years that has been expected
Trump is working to change that
Mac-7
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Some of that is honest fear of the unknown
Even at the best of times the stock market is as flighty as chickens or ducks
But its also engineered panic by savvy-but-wealthy anti trumpsters
bendog
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anti trumpers announced tarrifs? Personally my guess is the Trump spawn made bank
