Trump Again Claims Tariffs Will Result in Large Income Tax Cuts

[Clipper]

Who in the world is telling him that this madness is even possible?

I doubt it's Bessent. He knows better. Maybe Lutnick?

It could be Felon47 himself who's hearing voices in his head again & who's a deranged lunatic to begin with.

 

[Clipper]

Dems are 100% reliant upon income taxes and vampire sucking workers dry to line their own pockets.

Dems also pay taxes, fool.

Keep trying.

 

[task0778]

China will suffer without our market. We currently have that advantage over them. One day they will really tell us to go take a hike.

Yeah, and we will suffer without their market, especially the lower income people that get by with cheaper imported stuff mainly from China. And neither gov't really cares who ultimately pays the costs of tariffs.

 

[Clipper]

The tariffs are being negotiated, so are the new supply chains, so you are correct, the more that gets onshored the less tariff income there is, but that would be offset by new jobs and new income tax and a smaller trade deficit.

What "supply chains" are you referring to? The ones Trump is hearing in his head?

 

[Clipper]

Why?

While the cost of goods from overseas would increase... The equivalent amount of money would be reintroduced into the American economy to go to work here. That money would fund American manufacturing to compete with offshore manufacturing on a more level playing field.

Yea, ok. If you want to listen to & believe those voices in your head, keep them to yourself. They're leading you astray. Look what happened to Trump.

 

[Harry Dresden]

President Biden's 2025 Budget: Protects Medicare and Lowers Health Care Costs for American Families

President Biden’s 2025 budget offers a dramatically different vision for Americans’ access to health care compared to House Republicans’ 2025 budget.

democrats-budget.house.gov

medicare?....mine went from 524 to 575.....

 

[BluesLegend]

Dems also pay taxes, fool.

Keep trying.

Government Dems taking MY money and pretending to pay taxes with it isn't pay taxes.

 

[Crepitus]

medicare?....mine went from 524 to 575.....

your anecdote is noted and dismissed.

 

[candycorn]

Folks on your side too

There are no clean hands where trade with china is concerned

You are looking backward instead of the present and the future

Someone should remind you of the piece of lowlife shit you support. You seem to have forgotten that he put pennies over people....and naively believe that he gives two shits about those people now.

But congratulations... To your credit, you didn't rationalize, you didn't try to justify it...you didn't deny it happened. You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy. What nobody on "my side" can figure out is why you feel that he does now.

I mean...are you that idiotic? Remember when he promised no taxes on tips or OT...no tax on SS? What happened to that in the latest Republican budget proposals? Somehow the tax cuts for gazillionaires made it. Taxes on workers...they are all still in place.

The reason people look at MAGA and see nothing but bitter white nationalists is because there is nothing--nothing--else that is supported by reality. Trump fucked over workers when he was a capitalist (which he still is and still does), and now he's ******* over workers and all middle income Americans as President.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Trump says US taking in $2 billion a day from tariffs​

Reuters
https://www.reuters.com › world › trump-says-us-takin...
Apr 8, 2025 — U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday the United States is taking in $2 billion per day from tariffs.

Trump praises Bezos over Amazon's tariff dispute​

The Hill
https://thehill.com › business › personal-finance › 5273...
12 hours ago — Trump says Bezos 'did the right thing' by not displaying tariff costs on Amazon. President Trump said Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos did the right thing.

The White House had bashed Amazon for the reported plans, calling it a “hostile and political act.”

“Why didn’t Amazon do this when the Biden administration hiked inflation to the highest levels in 40 years?” press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters, “This is another reason why Americans should buy American.
It’s another reason why we are onshoring critical supply chains here at home, to shore up our own critical supply chain and boost our own manufacturing.”


Now, why wouldn't Trump want customers to see all the "profits"?

 

[Care4all]

We can't make it as cheaply because we pay a first world living wage. We have first world employee protections. We have first world employee insurance.

You can't have it both ways.

I'd rather pay more so that Bubba, Laquan and Paco get a good paycheck so they can buy a home that my trucks will haul the materials that the carpenters and roofers will use to construct those homes, that Michelle and Latisha will sell, that Isabelle and Hong will process the loans for, then go across the street and buy sushi that Mi Ling makes.

Savvy?

Once it goes to China, for all intents and purposes, it's gone, and that wealth is circulating in another countries economic terrarium.

I think we are about 30 years too late, to bring it all back....and even if brought back, it will likely be automated and computer run and won't benefit manufacturing people with high paying jobs.

Though as you mentioned, other jobs like truckers could be increased by it....not enough to make a difference imo, because they already move the goods across the country from a west coast port, so moving it from a factory in the USA simply replaces the port movement.... If even that.

And then we face all the high paying port jobs will be eliminated without the China and Asian/Indonesian hordes of cheap goods coming in...those very good paying jobs at the ports throughout the USA gone....and there are a gazillion truckers making good money running from those ports....all could be drastically cut.... While giving an automated robot a job?

it's just been too long of free trade, where other industries developed here and prospered here to cut it off at this point, imo

And so many small businesses rely on the very cheap goods from China for their businesses like Stationary Shops, Souvenir Shops, Fireworks Markets, fabric shops, gadget shops, where US Made products are too expensive for them to make a profit....tariffs are killing all of these businesses....mostly of 1 or 2 persons selling on Etsy, Ebay, Amazon.... And those are selling platforms created because of the imported cheap goods, that could also be hurt...

And just because it is brought back, many components of their manufacturing widget, are made in a foreign country.... So called free trade after the past 30 years is far and wide now.

And in the 30 years of off shoring our manufacturing, those who created this plan and their conspirator businesses here, were able to keep our pay lower and their payroll expense lower, because we were kept just hitting the edge of happy with all the cheap goods....so our pay is so much lower than it needs to be, to afford USA made goods....we've also have been trained to expect cheap goods...

This whole trade and tariff thing is deeper than a pie....there are so many aspects of USA living that took the past 40 years of free trade to work through,
it can't change with a flip of a switch, overnight....it'll take decades of suffering, before it gets better, if ever.

That being said, maybe our approach should be on higher priced goods being brought home, and tech type goods that have proprietary features that we don't want the Chinese to steal, and key necessities made at home, like our medicines, or military stuff....

These are areas where there is ability to pay quality hands, to make their quality goods.

 

[Mac-7]

Someone should remind you of the piece of lowlife shit you support. You seem to have forgotten that he put pennies over people....and naively believe that he gives two shits about those people now.

But congratulations... To your credit, you didn't rationalize, you didn't try to justify it...you didn't deny it happened. You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy. What nobody on "my side" can figure out is why you feel that he does now.

I mean...are you that idiotic? Remember when he promised no taxes on tips or OT...no tax on SS? What happened to that in the latest Republican budget proposals? Somehow the tax cuts for gazillionaires made it. Taxes on workers...they are all still in place.

The reason people look at MAGA and see nothing but bitter white nationalists is because there is nothing--nothing--else that is supported by reality. Trump fucked over workers when he was a capitalist (which he still is and still does), and now he's ******* over workers and all middle income Americans as President.

You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy.

You are such a liar

Its clear that Trump cares very deeply about the economy and the future of America

Otherwise he would be a do-nothing president instead of a transformative one

At his age it would be so easy to be a Calvin Coolidge or Joe Biden and just enjoy the perks of the office

If you were not blinded by bitterness you could see that

 

[Harry Dresden]

your anecdote is noted and dismissed.

why?....you said it did not increase....give an answer crep...

 

[Zincwarrior]

The recession has started.

U.S. economy shrank in early 2025, as tariffs sapped growth​

GDP contracted at an annual rate of 0.3 percent, a new report shows, offering a first look at how tariffs are reshaping spending patterns and changing the economy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/30/gdp-q1-economy-tariffs/

 

[Moonglow]

Government Dems taking MY money and pretending to pay taxes with it isn't pay taxes.

As far as we know, you don't pay taxes cause yer too poor.

 

[Moonglow]

The recession has started.

U.S. economy shrank in early 2025, as tariffs sapped growth​

GDP contracted at an annual rate of 0.3 percent, a new report shows, offering a first look at how tariffs are reshaping spending patterns and changing the economy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/04/30/gdp-q1-economy-tariffs/

Trump will never beat Oblama's GDP record.

 

[candycorn]

You admit that Trump didn't give a flying **** about the American economy.

You are such a liar

Well, you admitted he had shit made in China. What do you call that--caring about the American Economy.

Its clear that Trump cares very deeply about the economy and the future of America

Is that why the Stockmarket is sluggish, recession is being predicted, layoffs are taking place in manufacturing?

Otherwise he would be a do-nothing president instead of a transformative one

He isn’t doing anything.

For example...outside of his rhethoric...can you name the details one trade deal he’s negotiated? He is doing the ethnic cleansing that folks like applaud.

At his age it would be so easy to be a Calvin Coolidge or Joe Biden and just enjoy the perks of the office...

Like golf every weekend?

If you were not blinded by bitterness you could see that

Supply some actual facts and enlighten me. Not his bluster...facts.

DOGE supposedly uncovered trilions in fraud.

Has anyone been arrested for all of this fraud?

 

[Mac-7]

Well, you admitted he had shit made in China.

I did more than admit it

Its nothing to be ashamed of

For the past 30 years that has been expected

Trump is working to change that

 

[Mac-7]

Is that why the Stockmarket is sluggish, recession is being predicted, layoffs are taking place in manufacturing?

Some of that is honest fear of the unknown

Even at the best of times the stock market is as flighty as chickens or ducks

But its also engineered panic by savvy-but-wealthy anti trumpsters

 

[bendog]

Some of that is honest fear of the unknown

Even at the best of times the stock market is as flighty as chickens or ducks

But its also engineered panic by savvy-but-wealthy anti trumpsters

anti trumpers announced tarrifs? Personally my guess is the Trump spawn made bank