Trump admits the WALL rhetoric was nothing more than POLITICS-rambling's of a mad man.

[Snouter]

It is very cool oreo did not post that vid of homosexual Shep Smith ranting.

 

[oreo]

It is very cool oreo did not post that vid of homosexual Shep Smith ranting.

Thanks again for reminding me. I have another new video too.

This one over Trump Jr.'s meeting.


This is your favorite. An 8 minute video with Smith explaining that Trump surrogates were not only on the phone with the Russian ambassador but with Russian intelligence agents, including the very day that Russians were hacking into DNC databases.


What is really hysterical, no one in the Trump camp has realised yet, that they were being watched since 2015.

"GCHQ first became aware in late 2015 of suspicious “interactions” between figures connected to Trump and known or suspected Russian agents, a source close to UK intelligence said. This intelligence was passed to the US as part of a routine exchange of information, they added.

Over the next six months, until summer 2016, a number of western agencies shared further information on contacts between Trump’s inner circle and Russians, sources said.

The European countries that passed on electronic intelligence – known as sigint – included Germany, Estonia and Poland. Australia, a member of the “Five Eyes” spying alliance that also includes the US, UK, Canada and New Zealand, also relayed material, one source said."
British spies were first to spot Trump team's links with Russia
British intelligence passed Trump associates' talks with Russian on to US counterparts - CNNPolitics

 

[sealybobo]

No economic plan will work when regressives regulate businesses out of business. That's exactly what's been happening over the last 40 years. Then you have bureaucrats like in the EPA that gives grants to environazis to sue them, the EPA doesn't defend the law in court and settles getting a judgment from a court ordering them to do things the wanted to do all along but couldn't get congress to give them the authority. Then they pay the legal bills of the people they hired to sue them in the first place. Commiecrat policies and schemes are what don't work, with out them we'd be doing just fine.


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Let's talk about trade deficits which was in Trump's transcripts with the Mexican President. Trade deficits are nothing more than paper deficits, not real "money" loss's.

Mexico is the 3rd largest purchaser of American goods in the world. We buy more of their products simply because we are a larger population and require more. We can't expect Canada or Mexico to purchase 2 washers & dryers per family and 5 American cars. Really the only place we should have a trade surplus is with China as they are a larger population, but they manipulate their currency during trade. I seriously doubt Trump will do anything with China because he owns hotels there. IOW--they have him held hostage.
Trump's Hotels In China Could Be A Conflict For The President-Elect

Mexico trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Mexico

Canada trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Canada

So for 2016 Mexico bought $230 BILLION dollars worth of American goods, and Canada bought $267 BILLION. I don't think it's real smart to insult countries that buy that much from us.

Get back to me when you have something other than speculation. Also both Mexico and Canada are dealing in bad faith. Just ask the dairy farmers up north and the folks that live along the US southern border.


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You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy farmers rely on thousands of immigrants, most of them undocumented, to milk the cows. They fear Trump administration policies will cause their labor pool to dry up.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

Please stop making the migrant workers argument. No one ever minded the fruit pickers coming. But maybe now they have to get approval otherwise people who want to do more than pick fruit will come in.

 

[FA_Q2]

No economic plan will work when regressives regulate businesses out of business. That's exactly what's been happening over the last 40 years. Then you have bureaucrats like in the EPA that gives grants to environazis to sue them, the EPA doesn't defend the law in court and settles getting a judgment from a court ordering them to do things the wanted to do all along but couldn't get congress to give them the authority. Then they pay the legal bills of the people they hired to sue them in the first place. Commiecrat policies and schemes are what don't work, with out them we'd be doing just fine.


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Let's talk about trade deficits which was in Trump's transcripts with the Mexican President. Trade deficits are nothing more than paper deficits, not real "money" loss's.

Mexico is the 3rd largest purchaser of American goods in the world. We buy more of their products simply because we are a larger population and require more. We can't expect Canada or Mexico to purchase 2 washers & dryers per family and 5 American cars. Really the only place we should have a trade surplus is with China as they are a larger population, but they manipulate their currency during trade. I seriously doubt Trump will do anything with China because he owns hotels there. IOW--they have him held hostage.
Trump's Hotels In China Could Be A Conflict For The President-Elect

Mexico trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Mexico

Canada trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Canada

So for 2016 Mexico bought $230 BILLION dollars worth of American goods, and Canada bought $267 BILLION. I don't think it's real smart to insult countries that buy that much from us.

Get back to me when you have something other than speculation. Also both Mexico and Canada are dealing in bad faith. Just ask the dairy farmers up north and the folks that live along the US southern border.


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You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy farmers rely on thousands of immigrants, most of them undocumented, to milk the cows. They fear Trump administration policies will cause their labor pool to dry up.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

 

[oreo]

Let's talk about trade deficits which was in Trump's transcripts with the Mexican President. Trade deficits are nothing more than paper deficits, not real "money" loss's.

Mexico is the 3rd largest purchaser of American goods in the world. We buy more of their products simply because we are a larger population and require more. We can't expect Canada or Mexico to purchase 2 washers & dryers per family and 5 American cars. Really the only place we should have a trade surplus is with China as they are a larger population, but they manipulate their currency during trade. I seriously doubt Trump will do anything with China because he owns hotels there. IOW--they have him held hostage.
Trump's Hotels In China Could Be A Conflict For The President-Elect

Mexico trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Mexico

Canada trade charts
Foreign Trade - U.S. Trade with Canada

So for 2016 Mexico bought $230 BILLION dollars worth of American goods, and Canada bought $267 BILLION. I don't think it's real smart to insult countries that buy that much from us.

Get back to me when you have something other than speculation. Also both Mexico and Canada are dealing in bad faith. Just ask the dairy farmers up north and the folks that live along the US southern border.


.

You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy farmers rely on thousands of immigrants, most of them undocumented, to milk the cows. They fear Trump administration policies will cause their labor pool to dry up.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

Do you have reading comprehension problems? These farmers were paying minimum wage or more, but they can't get Americans to do backbreaking or dirty gross work for minimum wage.

Again--if meat, chicken, eggs, millk, fruit and vegi's skyrocket at the grocery store, who gets hurt by that? The elderly on fixed income and the poor. Your wallet gets hammered too.

So just how much do you think people picking fruit, plucking chickens, working at slaughter houses, milking cows, etc.--do you think they should be paid? Keep in mind that it's coming out of your pocket at the other end of the chain.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

 

[FA_Q2]

Get back to me when you have something other than speculation. Also both Mexico and Canada are dealing in bad faith. Just ask the dairy farmers up north and the folks that live along the US southern border.


.

You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy farmers rely on thousands of immigrants, most of them undocumented, to milk the cows. They fear Trump administration policies will cause their labor pool to dry up.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

Do you have reading comprehension problems? These farmers were paying minimum wage or more, but they can't get Americans to do backbreaking or dirty gross work for minimum wage.

Again--if meat, chicken, eggs, millk, fruit and vegi's skyrocket at the grocery store, who gets hurt by that? The elderly on fixed income and the poor. Your wallet gets hammered too.

So just how much do you think people picking fruit, plucking chickens, working at slaughter houses, milking cows, etc.--do you think they should be paid? Keep in mind that it's coming out of your pocket at the other end of the chain.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

They should be paid what they are worth. Period.

That is how the market works. Instead, you want to advocate for an underclass that is worked illegally to depress wages contrary to other held positions. That is called hypocrisy.

Apparently you cant read your own links either while claiming others have reading comprehension problems:
The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

That is a daily wage of $48-$72 a day. Even if we were to ignorantly call 'all day' an 8 hour work day that means an hourly wage is $6-$9. 6 bucks is well below the minimum.


Finally, you are the one that cannot seem to think past their own wallet. A real good example of the I got mine so fuck you crowd. If legal work increases the cost of tomatoes and other high labor foods then I will either pay the increased amounts of the farmers will need to find a way to increase productivity. End of story.

That is how a free market actually operates. I know, it is hard to even recognize as we have strayed so far from free markets.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Get back to me when you have something other than speculation. Also both Mexico and Canada are dealing in bad faith. Just ask the dairy farmers up north and the folks that live along the US southern border.


.

You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy farmers rely on thousands of immigrants, most of them undocumented, to milk the cows. They fear Trump administration policies will cause their labor pool to dry up.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

Do you have reading comprehension problems? These farmers were paying minimum wage or more, but they can't get Americans to do backbreaking or dirty gross work for minimum wage.

Again--if meat, chicken, eggs, millk, fruit and vegi's skyrocket at the grocery store, who gets hurt by that? The elderly on fixed income and the poor. Your wallet gets hammered too.

So just how much do you think people picking fruit, plucking chickens, working at slaughter houses, milking cows, etc.--do you think they should be paid? Keep in mind that it's coming out of your pocket at the other end of the chain.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

No Herr Himmler, the "farmer" (corporate owners of massive agricultural industrial complexes funded by taxpayers) pay PIECE COUNT and use the Mexicans as CONTRACT LABOR to avoid any and all labor laws.

IF you EVER offered a post where you did not lie, would WaPO, DialyKOS, Stormfront, or whatever fucking hate blog you work for, fire you?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

you all rubes got Rick Rolled

 

[oreo]

You can provide a link to that if you're going to make the claim on dairy farmers. We have dairy farmers that I can provide links too, that are very concerned they won't have the help they need to bring in the milk or their harvests right now.

Dairy Farmers Fear Loss Of Labor Under Trump Immigration Actions
Maine farmers worry about workers' future under Trump immigration policy - Portland Press Herald
Trump's Immigration Crackdown Triggers Anxiety Across U.S. Farms
US Farms Anxious Over Immigration Crackdowns | US Immigration News

No need to worry about what Canada is doing to dairy farmers, Trump has done enough already.

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

Do you have reading comprehension problems? These farmers were paying minimum wage or more, but they can't get Americans to do backbreaking or dirty gross work for minimum wage.

Again--if meat, chicken, eggs, millk, fruit and vegi's skyrocket at the grocery store, who gets hurt by that? The elderly on fixed income and the poor. Your wallet gets hammered too.

So just how much do you think people picking fruit, plucking chickens, working at slaughter houses, milking cows, etc.--do you think they should be paid? Keep in mind that it's coming out of your pocket at the other end of the chain.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

No Herr Himmler, the "farmer" (corporate owners of massive agricultural industrial complexes funded by taxpayers) pay PIECE COUNT and use the Mexicans as CONTRACT LABOR to avoid any and all labor laws.

IF you EVER offered a post where you did not lie, would WaPO, DialyKOS, Stormfront, or whatever fucking hate blog you work for, fire you?

Well if you ever pull a verifiable trusted link out of your ass maybe you would be more credibile. My 3rd grade grand daughter has better reading comprehension skills than you do.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

 

[Trump The Failure]

In this transcript with Trump & Enrique Pena Nieto (President of Mexico)--we see the ramblings of a mad-man (Donald Trump.)

"The Washington Post has obtained transcripts of two conversations President Trump had with foreign leaders: one with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and another with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

The transcripts were prepared by the White House but have not been released. The Post is publishing reproductions rather than original documents in order to protect sources. The reproductions below also include minor spelling and grammatical mistakes that appeared in the documents."
‘This deal will make me look terrible’: Full transcripts of Trump’s calls with Mexico and Australia

Here are just a few of the exerpts--the rest is wandering unbeliveable physco babble. Somehow he thinks he won New Hamshire--he talks about the size of his rallies, and how popular he was, and is now only concerned with his supporters approval of him--so he has worked out a plan to keep it. Then he goes into tariffs, and border taxes that he brags he has the authority to do alone--which he doesn't have that authority without congressional approval. This is mad man physco babble.

Regarding the Wall:
1. Trump says: Believe it or not, (The WALL) this is the least important thing that we are talking about, but politically this might be the most important thing to talk about. "We cannot say that anymore because if you are going to say that Mexico is not going to pay for the wall, then I do not want to meet with you guys anymore because I cannot live with that. I am willing to say that we will work it out, but that means it will come out in the wash and that is okay. But you cannot say anymore that the United States is going to pay for the wall. I am just going to say that we are working it out.
2. Trump--I think the most popular thing for "me" would just to put a tariff on the border.
3. Nieto--This is what I suggest, Mr. President – let us stop talking about the wall. I have recognized the right of any government to protect its borders as it deems necessary and convenient. But my position has been and will continue to be very firm saying that Mexico will not pay for that wall. Trump in response: But you cannot say that to the press. The press is going to go with that and I cannot live with that.

After he calls the President of Mexico he then gets on the phone with the Australian Prime Minister and apparently hangs up on him.

It's all right here--including a video explanation of it all.
‘This deal will make me look terrible’: Full transcripts of Trump’s calls with Mexico and Australia

There is something that is definitely mentally wrong with Trump, and it's clear the only thing that concerns him is his popularity within his base of support--(it's all about him.) Ratings and adoration--again his narcissistic personality comes into full view.
A neuroscientist explains: Trump has a mental disorder that makes him a dangerous world leader

Rush Limbaugh one of Trumps biggest promoters-was cornered by a caller that was able to sneak onto his program--to admit something shocking.

Caller to Limbaugh Show Exposes That Rush Knows He Blew It with Donald Trump

Campaigning on a 1000-40' high wall that Mexico would pay for was about as realistic as Bernie Sanders campaigning on a free college education for everyone. How STUPID are Americans today?
A neuroscientist explains what may be wrong with Trump supporters’ brains

This quote from the neuroscientist article explains all hopelessly stupid Trump supporters perfectly:

As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” Essentially, they’re not smart enough to realize they’re dumb.

 

[MarcATL]

All phone calls between any of our presidents and other foreign leaders are classified.
Without that privacy they will not be able to have secured national interest discussions.
Who ever leaked them has committed treason.
If this had happened under Obama ,the news would all about talk of getting the traitors and how national security has been compromised.

If this had happened under Obama your post would have stated the exact opposite, you'd have been talking about how great the "whistleblower" was for exposing Obama's corruption.

In fact, you and your ilk were posting those very sentiments the previous 8 years every time Obama so much as sneezed.

 

[peach174]

All phone calls between any of our presidents and other foreign leaders are classified.
Without that privacy they will not be able to have secured national interest discussions.
Who ever leaked them has committed treason.
If this had happened under Obama ,the news would all about talk of getting the traitors and how national security has been compromised.

If this had happened under Obama your post would have stated the exact opposite, you'd have been talking about how great the "whistleblower" was for exposing Obama's corruption.

In fact, you and your ilk were posting those very sentiments the previous 8 years every time Obama so much as sneezed.

In national security there is no left or right.
This has compromised talks between other top government officials around the world.
You think they will talk with any of our Presidents now?
No, not till they are caught and then they will be leery for quite a long period of time.

 

[Uncensored2008]

They worry they may have to pay minimum wage.

But have no fear, democrats are here to keep illegals working for pennies on the dollar and denying jobs to Americans.

No it's much more than offering a minimum wage. It's back breaking work--that Americans will not do for minimum wage.

So what are the consequence's to that? Milk, eggs, beef, chicken, fruit and vegi's go through the roof at the grocery store, and who gets hurt the most? The poor and elderly in this country that are on a fixed incomes--is who will get hurt the most.

Alabama kicked out all undocumented workers, and it wasn't long before they were begging them to come back.

"Hidden behind the Banco del Sol and the Tienda El Nino is the economic pillar of this rural town: A massive factory that processes 130,000 chickens a day. Inside, headless plucked birds move along conveyor belts while 300 workers, in repeated deft strokes, slice each passing carcass into chunks of kitchen-ready meat.

For years, most poultry workers here were Mexican immigrants, including some who were in the country illegally. But last fall, after a tough state law against illegal immigrants took effect, many vanished overnight, rattling the town’s large Hispanic community and leaving the poultry business scrambling to find workers willing to stand for hours in a wet, chilly room, cutting up dead chickens.

“Even someone born and raised in Albertville may not have the necessary skills or be able to pass a background check,” said Frank Singleton, a spokesman for Wayne Farms, which owns the slaughterhouse. The firm held a job fair that attracted about 250 local residents, but few were hired, and some soon quit, daunted by the demanding work. Since the law took effect, he said, “our turnover rate has gone through the roof.”

Sponsors of the law say it has done exactly what they had hoped, driving tens of thousands of illegal immigrants from the state. The U.S. Justice Department has challenged some parts of the law, and President Obama’s announcement Friday of a temporary legal amnesty for more than 1 million young undocumented immigrants nationwide clashes directly with Alabama’s legislation.

A variety of employers in Alabama said they have not been able to find enough legal residents to replace the seasoned Hispanic field pickers, drywall hangers, landscapers and poultry workers who fled the state. There was an initial rush of job applications, they said, but many new employees quit or were let go.

Wayne Smith, 56, raises tomatoes on a family farm in the misty hills of Chandler Mountain, a 40-minute drive from Albertville. Last fall, he said, his entire Mexican crew ran off, and Smith and his neighbors scoured the area for new workers. The growers pay $2 for every large box of picked tomatoes, and a worker must be able to pluck fast all day, bent over in the hot sun, to fill two or three dozen boxes.

“The whites lasted half a day, and the blacks wouldn’t come at all. The work was just too hot and hard for them,” Smith said. He dismissed the argument, often made by critics of illegal immigration, that Americans might do the work if offered a higher and hourly wage. “We’ve been using Mexicans for 30 years, and now they’ve been run off,” he said. “Everyone is worried about Arizona. If this law sticks, what’ll we do then?”
Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

So now paying people a living wage is a bad thing because it raises prices of products?

Yesterday wage increases did not effect products...

It is interesting how you are now advocating for the creation and continuation of an underclass that does not earn the minimum wage.

Do you have reading comprehension problems? These farmers were paying minimum wage or more, but they can't get Americans to do backbreaking or dirty gross work for minimum wage.

Again--if meat, chicken, eggs, millk, fruit and vegi's skyrocket at the grocery store, who gets hurt by that? The elderly on fixed income and the poor. Your wallet gets hammered too.

So just how much do you think people picking fruit, plucking chickens, working at slaughter houses, milking cows, etc.--do you think they should be paid? Keep in mind that it's coming out of your pocket at the other end of the chain.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

No Herr Himmler, the "farmer" (corporate owners of massive agricultural industrial complexes funded by taxpayers) pay PIECE COUNT and use the Mexicans as CONTRACT LABOR to avoid any and all labor laws.

IF you EVER offered a post where you did not lie, would WaPO, DialyKOS, Stormfront, or whatever fucking hate blog you work for, fire you?

Well if you ever pull a verifiable trusted link out of your ass maybe you would be more credibile. My 3rd grade grand daughter has better reading comprehension skills than you do.

Alabama law drives out illegal immigrants but also has unexpected consequences

You are a stupid fuck, and of course a fucking liar.

Independent Contractor or Employee?

 

[Uncensored2008]

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In national security there is no left or right.
This has compromised talks between other top government officials around the world.
You think they will talk with any of our Presidents now?
No, not till they are caught and then they will be leery for quite a long period of time.

You need to understand that to the fascist left there is no wrong or right, only the party. What the party desires is what defines what leftists like Marc support. These are jackbooted goons who goosestep in absolute obedience to the party. They don't give a damn about national security or the country. They serve the party, nothing else matters.