Trump admits he did not tell dem leaders of impending VZ strike because he knew they would leak the info

[AntonToo]

The problem is your principles align with dictators that oppress their people, and run major nacroterrorist organizations…

They are deplorable principals

Horseshit, if Maduro was captured and Trump admin worked to establish legitimate, sovereign democracy in Venezuela I’d be fully support that.

Instead all he talks about is running the country, grabbing their oil.

Nothing about elections, nothing about sovereignty, nothing about democratic principles or human rights.

He did say something about the democratic opposition that actually did win the last election there - **** THEM, not interested, we are keeping Maduro’s party in power because they will do whatever we tell them.

 

[Nostra]

Horseshit, if Maduro was captured and Trump admin worked to establish legitimate, sovereign democracy in Venezuela I’d be fully support that.

Instead all he talks about is running the country, grabbing their oil.

Nothing about elections, nothing about sovereignty, nothing about democratic principles or human rights.

He did say something about the democratic opposition that actually did win the last election there - **** THEM, not interested, we are keeping Maduro’s party in power because they will do whatever we tell them.

Lies.

Trump said we will oversee things during the transition, stupid.

They will have a real government soon. You really are butthurt your mass murdering Messiah is gone.

 

[berg80]

I can think of a few reasons. One, getting a declaration from Congress would have made it public knowledge allowing Maduro to prepare for this.

You don't think amassing a large military force close by was a tipoff to what was coming? Besides, the authorization could have been along the lines of the vague one Shrub got before he decided to invade Iraq. Eventually causing the Arab Spring and subsequent exodus of refugees to Western Europe, then the backlash, resulting in the rise of the extreme Right there.

 

[Nostra]

You don't think amassing a large military force close by was a tipoff to what was coming? Besides, the authorization could have been along the lines of the vague one Shrub got before he decided to invade Iraq. Eventually causing the Arab Spring and subsequent exodus of refugees to Europe and the backlash resulting in the rise of the extreme Right.

Nope. Your Traitor Party would have tipped him off.

 

[Darkwind]

I can think of a few reasons. One, getting a declaration from Congress would have made it public knowledge allowing Maduro to prepare for this. Instead of a quick in and out Delta Force strike team taking him into custody it would have become something incredibly bloody. The 40 dead were Maduro's people. The bomb strikes were precision targets meant as distractions.

The second reason, even if Congress had been briefed under classified proceedings, someone in the Democratic Party would have possibly leaked it.

Not possibly leak it.

They hate Trump so much, you can guarantee that two or three of the gang of eight would have people in place to get the information to those in the press hostile to the Presidency and America.

 

[Darkwind]

You don't think amassing a large military force close by was a tipoff to what was coming? Besides, the authorization could have been along the lines of the vague one Shrub got before he decided to invade Iraq. Eventually causing the Arab Spring and subsequent exodus of refugees to Western Europe, then the backlash, resulting in the rise of the extreme Right there.

I have to wonder why you don't understand the separation of powers outlined in the Constitution.

Article II gives the President the authority to act and has ZERO requirements of prior notification to anyone.

Maybe if the Democrats were more trustworthy, there would be enough trust that the Democrats would not immediately turn traitor.

But such is the world we live in now.

 

[berg80]

The thing is, trump will get a good night's sleep tonight. Sociopaths don't feel guilt.

The strike killed Rosa González, 80, her family said, and seriously wounded a second person.

In the afternoon, a government investigator was present in the area of the strike, interviewing witnesses and picking up projectiles.

Wilman González, Ms. Gonzalez’s nephew, said he ducked when heard the strike at about 2 a.m. but nearly lost an eye. He had three stitches on the side of his face.

 

[BackAgain]

Looks like an oil war to me. Trump pauing off his big oil donors.

Yeah, but you’re legally blind and you’re a hack libturd. So what things “look like” to you is irrelevant.

 

[berg80]

Article II gives the President the authority to act and has ZERO requirements of prior notification to anyone.

Dotard has claimed absolute power to do anything he wants under the umbrella of Article II powers before. He's wrong.

During his first term, President Trump proclaimed, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president. But I don’t even talk about that.” In his second term, Trump has talked about Article II a lot. In doing so, he has asserted that he has the authority to violate statutes passed by Congress and orders and precedents of the courts.

In the two months since his inauguration, the government has taken the position in ongoing litigation that Trump’s actions prevail over statutes like the Civil Service Reform Act, the Impoundment Control Act, and the Administrative Procedure Act. Meanwhile, Trump has also openly ignored the Supreme Court’s decision in Humphrey’s Executor and a district court order limiting the deportation of individuals from Venezuela.

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

www.lawfaremedia.org

 

[struth]

Lies.

Trump said we will oversee things during the transition, stupid.

They will have a real government soon. You really are butthurt your mass murdering Messiah is gone.

That of course is the dembots biggest fear. A free, safe and prosperous Venezuela

These people cheered for Maduro and his former boss Chavez…they called them heroes as they stole from their people, starved them,and oppressed them

 

[Darkwind]

Dotard has claimed absolute power to do anything he wants under the umbrella of Article II powers before. He's wrong.

During his first term, President Trump proclaimed, “I have an Article II, where I have the right to do whatever I want as president. But I don’t even talk about that.” In his second term, Trump has talked about Article II a lot. In doing so, he has asserted that he has the authority to violate statutes passed by Congress and orders and precedents of the courts.

In the two months since his inauguration, the government has taken the position in ongoing litigation that Trump’s actions prevail over statutes like the Civil Service Reform Act, the Impoundment Control Act, and the Administrative Procedure Act. Meanwhile, Trump has also openly ignored the Supreme Court’s decision in Humphrey’s Executor and a district court order limiting the deportation of individuals from Venezuela.

The Meaning of Article II and 'Executive Power' to Trump

President Trump has cited Article II to justify everything from deportations to firing civil servants—these assertions present a challenge to constitutional order.

www.lawfaremedia.org

He has not. That is your paranoia ripping through.

The people around Trump, as well as Trump himself, understand the limits of his powers.

The same cannot be said for you.

 

[struth]

Horseshit, if Maduro was captured and Trump admin worked to establish legitimate, sovereign democracy in Venezuela I’d be fully support that.

Instead all he talks about is running the country, grabbing their oil.

Nothing about elections, nothing about sovereignty, nothing about democratic principles or human rights.

He did say something about the democratic opposition that actually did win the last election there - **** THEM, not interested, we are keeping Maduro’s party in power because they will do whatever we tell them.

No you arent…haha you literally are doing the opposite

You went from no kings to leave the dictator alone real quick

 

[berg80]

I have to wonder why you don't understand the separation of powers outlined in the Constitution.

Article II gives the President the authority to act and has ZERO requirements of prior notification to anyone.

Maybe if the Democrats were more trustworthy, there would be enough trust that the Democrats would not immediately turn traitor.

But such is the world we live in now.

I'm glad you brought up this subject. One of the hallmarks of trump 2.0 is to claim the possession of broad, novel, presidential power, then act and dare Congress or the courts to stop him.

 

[berg80]

He has not. That is your paranoia ripping through.

While bemoaning Mueller probe, Trump falsely says the Constitution gives him ‘the right to do whatever I want’​

President Trump believes the Constitution gives him a wide breadth of power. That’s the message he delivered ― not for the first time — on Tuesday while addressing a crowd of teenagers and young adults at the Turning Point USA Teen Student Action Summit in Washington.

There are numerous viral video clips from Trump’s 80-minute speech at the conference, but one of the most controversial moments came as he discussed Article II of the Constitution, which describes the powers of the president.

Trump lamented the duration and cost of the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election led by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, which he has repeatedly said found “no collusion, no obstruction.”

“Then, I have an Article II, where I have to the right to do whatever I want as president,” he said. “But I don’t even talk about that.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/07/23/trump-falsely-tells-auditorium-full-teens-constitution-gives-him-right-do-whatever-i-want/

It must be frustrating for you never to have the facts on your side.

 

[Nostra]

that removing Maduro and his wife are not the kind of new hostilities that would require notice to, or a declaration from, Congress. Despite it being a large military operation reportedly leaving 40 dead Venezuelans behind.

Venezuelan Official Says at Least 40 People Were Killed in U.S. Attack​

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/03/world/americas/venezuela-airstrike-civilian-deaths.html

It leaves me with a question: If the U.S. was just going in to Venezuela to arrest a defendant in a criminal case, which has now been done, why is it necessary to stick around to run the country? Sticking around being evidence the real goal goes beyond bringing Maduro to justice. Making the incursion a violation of both international and US law.

Leading me to ask another question, similar to the philosophical one that begins "If a tree falls in the forest........" In practical terms, if the government breaks the law, but there is no one to enforce it, has the law been broken?

 

[struth]

Lies.

Trump said we will oversee things during the transition, stupid.

They will have a real government soon. You really are butthurt your mass murdering Messiah is gone.

Dembots went from no kings to, leave the dictator alone in less then 6 months

 

[Failzero]

You don't think amassing a large military force close by was a tipoff to what was coming? Besides, the authorization could have been along the lines of the vague one Shrub got before he decided to invade Iraq. Eventually causing the Arab Spring and subsequent exodus of refugees to Western Europe, then the backlash, resulting in the rise of the extreme Right there.

Knowing it’s looming is not like knowing exactly When it’s onnnn

 

[berg80]

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Let us all stipulate that Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro is a bad guy. He deserved to be driven from power, perhaps with American help. An operation rooted in support from the international community and approved by Congress would be a tough sell because Venezuela presented no threat to the United States or anyone else, but it would have been the right way to go. (Drugs don’t count as an imminent danger.) Instead, the president declared the “Donroe Doctrine,” another moment that will stand for ages as an embarrassment to the United States and raises the question yet again of whether the commander in chief is cognitively stable enough to be ordering the invasion of other nations. Trump and his team didn’t even try creating a coalition either at home or abroad. By simply landing troops in another nation and decapitating its leadership, Trump has done Russia and China a great service by trashing, yet again, guardrails that limit other nations from running amok. International law? Pointless. The United Nations? Never heard of it. The Congress of the United States? Well, they’re good folks, but according to Secretary of State Marco Rubio, they couldn’t be told ahead of time, for security reasons. (He said this while standing next to Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, a fountain of security violations.) Putin and Xi must have watched Trump’s presser while nodding and taking notes. Maybe Russia and China Should Sit This One Out Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping are just shocked—shocked!—by the American attack on Venezuela. www.theatlantic.com

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[Darkwind]

I'm glad you brought up this subject. One of the hallmarks of trump 2.0 is to claim the possession of broad, novel, presidential power, then act and dare Congress or the courts to stop him.

You mean to claim that it has happned in the past making it a precedent? Article II powers to the executive has always included the authority and legal basis to act without notifying anyone in the presence of a real threat to the American people.

He doesn't have to make claims on it. It is the truth and the left is going to have to put on display their hatred of Ameica if they wish to continue these lies.

Someone should be diligent and let the Venezuelan people in Venezuela, as well as ALL the Venezuelan communities around America.

Let them know you opposed prosecuting that war criminal and that their beliefs are inconsequential to the left.

 

[Slyhunter]

Because you are an idiot.

I would fully support getting rid of illegitimate thug Maduro, BUT NOT TO RUN VENZUELA AND GRAB THEIR OIL.

There is a big world out there and Trump has just shit all over international law and conventions.

After WW2 Countries got togather and said NEVER AGAIN and signed onto the framework that would keep the peace through respect for borders and sovereignty of recognized countries.

Trump is now busy throwing all that out the window and returning us to might-makes-right past, puting us on equal footing with two bit lawless imperialists like Putin.

Nobody does things for free any mre. No such thing as a selflish hero.