Trump Administration Ministry of Truth to Define and Prosecute "Hate Speech"

So they want to implement the very same type of authoritarian, bullshit cancel culture and "hate speech" rules that turned off so many people to the Democrats and helped bring their orange Jesus to power in the first place.

You just can't make this up. Hardcore partisan ideology just ***** up people's minds. It turns a normally-functioning brain into oatmeal. It's gotta be a freakin' miracle.
 
Last edited:
So they want to implement the very same type of authoritarian, bullshit cancel culture and "hate speech" rules that turned off so many people to the Democrats and helped bring their orange Jesus to power in the first place.

You just can't make this up. Hardcore partisan ideology just ***** up people's minds. It turns a normally-functioning brain into oatmeal.
To be fair, they didn't have much between their ears in the first place.
It's gotta be a freakin' miracle.
 
Is writing in a post, 86-47 a crime? Or 86-46? Or having a Hashtag for either?

And really, what an everyday Joe says on this site means squat...they don't influence anyone...but a politician or president saying some of the hateful rhetoric said on this site, is when others might be encouraged to act out...

Like on 1/6.../ were they encouraged to march down to the capital (and riot), fight or they wouldn't have a country anymore...?

Maybe this new hate speech law y'all want should just apply to our representatives and senators and presidents and Executive branch?;)

What about Trump falsely accusing the whole left of being radicals, and blaming Democrats for what this murderer did, who never voted in his life and was not even registered as a Democrat, never frequented political message boards like this one, and never even mentioning Democrats, from what I've seen?

Seems his irk, was all personal. He didn't like what Charlie was saying about transgender people... it hit close to home, or actually in his home.

No one encouraged him to kill Charlie that's been shown to us so far...

It seems he had his own screw loose...all by his lonesome....

not that I don't think there are sites that do try very hard to "influence" their followers and sometimes they're evil, pieces of shit...I just don't think we can censor it under the 1st, and it would be too difficult to define and put in to US Code Statute.
 
So, is calling a politician a Nazi, or Fascist, or Commie, or Marxist, or Socialist or Authoritarian, or a Dictator....
hate speech to be prosecuted??? How about calling them the antichrist?

It partly depends on how TRUE it is. I guess you just have to be intelligent enough to tell the difference between trying to incite violence against harmless ideological opponents and actual enemies trying to destroy your world.

Are you that dumb as to support the contention that Charlie Kirk was "filled with so much hate" that he just had to die, by murder, right now, butchered in front of his small children?

Is your world /saved/ now?
 
I hate Pam Bondi. Is that hate speech?


This is very disappointing from the Trump Administration. This is something I would expect from a Democrat Administration.

So while the Democrats are mocking and attacking the Trump Administration on enforcing “hate speech” violations, deep down, they love the concept.

I think hate speech and hate speech crimes are bullshit.
 
Not just threaten her but maliciously accuse her. Use disinformation to make the hateful and dangerous misfits out there believe she is dangerous to them or what they believe in. Suggest she must be 'neutralized' or 'cancelled' or 'eliminated' in any other way than via the ballot box.
The fact that so many democrats were programmed to believe that Charlie Kirk was full of hate proves that lies can cause murder. I hope that whoever pushed that lie about Charlie gets prosecuted.
 
The demented LEFT are OUTRAGED over the notion of using THEIR GAME, THEIR RULES against THEM?
I don't really like it either, but GTFOH with your blatant and sickening HYPOCRISY.
🙄
 
I hate Pam Bondi. Is that hate speech?


I disagree with any kind of law against "hate speech." Speech people hate is the speech most in need of protection.

But you Democrats and "not Democrats" brought it on yourselves with your speech-inspired violence, your suppression of speech you disagree with, and your push for "hate crimes law."

You made this bed.

Night-night!
 
"I think it's safe to assume that this will be in one direction only."

So far for sure -
Democrats against anyone not 100% Democrat.
 
The demented LEFT are OUTRAGED over the notion of using THEIR GAME, THEIR RULES against THEM?
I don't really like it either, but GTFOH with your blatant and sickening HYPOCRISY.
🙄

Bondi was not using the Democrat incarnation of Hate Speech.
 
I hate Pam Bondi. Is that hate speech?


There is free speech or there is not. This crap of the government toying with speech has got to stop. A few years ago the left tried this BS and it failed, and it is going to fail again.

We have a right to free speech, the government has no right to tell us what is free speech or hate speech! We are not whimsy Europe!

We all need to stand up against this BS.
 
Bondi was not using the Democrat incarnation of Hate Speech.
Not sure what you mean, and at this point I don't freaking care (not directed at you). It's all semantics now.
The internet is a cesspool of hate and vitriol, and people are just going to have to accept that what they say, they can be held accountable for.
FAFO FOREVER :evil:
 
Not sure what you mean, and at this point I don't freaking care (not directed at you). It's all semantics now.
The internet is a cesspool of hate and vitriol, and people are just going to have to accept that what they say, they can be held accountable for.
FAFO FOREVER :evil:

Speech that directly incites violence or constitutes a true threat.
That's the real version.

Toxic empathy coupled with Democrat buffoonery have widened the definition to; to include mean things said to any protected class.
 
Speech that directly incites violence or constitutes a true threat.
That's the real version.

Toxic empathy coupled with Democrat buffoonery have widened the definition to; to include mean things said to any protected class.
The demented Democrats are going to label themselves all together as a "protected class" to excuse their violent hatred they spew.
 
I admit that the Fed is entering choppy waters involving itself with restrictions on speech in a country DEFINED by protection of free speech.

As such, who defines and determines where free speech ends? In a sense, we already did long ago when we declared it a crime to yell fire in a crowded theater. And really, how can any individual right be /unlimited/?

Therefore, what Pam is saying (and I agree I remain least impressed by her so far), is that free speech has legal limits.

But I so much dislike the term "hate speech," it implies the viewer somehow could see into the speaker's inner thoughts and intentions of their mind.

But her goal is just because, just like yelling fire in a theater, free speech must have limits and cannot extend beyond where your actions, speech, etc, extend out into curtailing other people's rights.

Therefore, I would suggest the administration avoid the term "hate speech" and replace it with a far more accurate and enforceable one like 'incendiary speech'. Incendiary speech implies an undesirable and observable consequence, not just that you hated something since hate is an ordinary and unavoidable human condition we all suffer as hate goes hand in hand with love. Everyone hates. I hate rap music, green hair and many kinds of seafood; does that make me evil?

Bottom line: if you are in a position of influence as a public figure and you rant death to xyz or that we should kill xyz, over and over, then xyz does get murdered, you probably bear some responsibility, or at least an investigation into whether you should be responsible.

Trampling on free speech? Only if you intend to go out every day calling for the murder of everyone you disagree with. But I agree with Pam in that at this point, /something/ must be done before this thing goes any farther. Enough is enough.

As distasteful as restraining unfettered speech might be, understand that this is only necessary as the only way to deal with the growing fact that people on the Left simply won't otherwise stop calling for the death and murder of everyone they don't like while shooting at them with guns.

And it is clear now that Tyler Robinson got his chops on some social media he belonged to. He went from a fairly normal, promising young man to a radicalized murderer. Someone filled his head with murderous rage against Kirk most probably with the intent that someone act on it.

And lookie this--- turns out that once again, Tyler was all wrapped up with transgenderism.

Democrats now sound no different or better than Iranian islamic fundamentalists issuing a fatwa on someone. All the left have stopped short of doing (so far) is issuing million dollar rewards to the first people to kill this guy or that.

If leftards could simply rein it in and stop being total a-holes, none of this would be necessary.
Free speech is only free if people are allowed to voice opinions we don’t like. Otherwise, it isn’t free speech at all—it’s controlled speech, like we see in parts of Europe.

Who gets to decide what counts as “hate speech”? Is it disagreeing with the President? Is it cursing out your team when they lose? Once we hand that power to government officials, every unpopular opinion is at risk.

The First Amendment is crystal clear: the government cannot restrict speech, no matter how vile, unless it is intended and likely to incite imminent violence or lawless action. That’s why the Supreme Court relies on the Brandenburg v. Ohio standard—not vague or subjective labels like “hate speech.”

And this is where the real danger comes in. The Biden Administration openly pressured social media companies to remove posts it considered “fake news.” But who decides what is fake? One administration’s “misinformation” can easily become another administration’s “truth.” Allowing the government to police speech is exactly what the First Amendment was written to prevent.

The “fire in a crowded theater” analogy doesn’t change that. Unless you can prove that speech directly incites violence or a riot, restricting it is skirting dangerously close to violating the Constitution.
 
15th post
The other problem is that free speech is being used by China and Russia to attack US "democracy".

At what point does a free society have to protect itself?
So you want Trump to protect us and determine what is and isn’t free speech?
 
Free speech is only free if people are allowed to voice opinions we don’t like. Otherwise, it isn’t free speech at all—it’s controlled speech, like we see in parts of Europe.

Who gets to decide what counts as “hate speech”? Is it disagreeing with the President? Is it cursing out your team when they lose? Once we hand that power to government officials, every unpopular opinion is at risk.

The First Amendment is crystal clear: the government cannot restrict speech, no matter how vile, unless it is intended and likely to incite imminent violence or lawless action. That’s why the Supreme Court relies on the Brandenburg v. Ohio standard—not vague or subjective labels like “hate speech.”

And this is where the real danger comes in. The Biden Administration openly pressured social media companies to remove posts it considered “fake news.” But who decides what is fake? One administration’s “misinformation” can easily become another administration’s “truth.” Allowing the government to police speech is exactly what the First Amendment was written to prevent.

The “fire in a crowded theater” analogy doesn’t change that. Unless you can prove that speech directly incites violence or a riot, restricting it is skirting dangerously close to violating the Constitution.
Inciting murder and violence is not protected free speech.
Never was.
EVER.
 
Free speech is only free if people are allowed to voice opinions we don’t like.
That was the general aim of the Bill of Rights.

Who gets to decide what counts as “hate speech”?
As fuzzy an area as it would seem, the job falls to whichever governing authority we elect, with their basing the boundaries of hate speech based on what speech just goes so far over the top as to encroach over onto other people's rights, safety and liberty--- a difficult task. But the alternative is to continue to be blind targets for people who murder just to protect a twisted ideology.

The “fire in a crowded theater” analogy doesn’t change that. Unless you can prove that speech directly incites violence or a riot, restricting it is skirting dangerously close to violating the Constitution.
I wouldn't disagree if you can offer a better alternative to doing nothing and being bullied, terrorized and slaughtered. Nothing is unlimited in this world, and that includes even unpopular speech when it extends into trying to get people killed. The government has an obligation to deal with terrorism, and that is what this has now devolved into--- domestic terrorism.

I've heard that on some sites, lefties are already making lists of their next targets.

Who will be the next republican to go out in public, stand before a crowd and stomp for their ideals? Yeah-- I thought so.

Meanwhile, how many democrats do you think will truly feel encumbered from going out campaigning?
 
So, the Trump regime wants to outlaw their version of hate speech?
Exactly, and just as Biden wanted to pressure social media on what was his fake news or dangerous speech, Trump now wants the same.

This is why it is so dangerous to let the government into our lives to determine what is real and what is fake. It is wrong, government should not determine our rights, other we have no rights
 
Back
Top Bottom