Trump Administration Ministry of Truth to Define and Prosecute "Hate Speech"

[Marener]

Speech that directly incites violence or constitutes a true threat.
That's the real version.

Toxic empathy coupled with Democrat buffoonery have widened the definition to; to include mean things said to any protected class.

She could have said that, but she instead used the term hate speech.

Either she’s too stupid to articulate the difference or she is looking to chill free speech through ambiguous threats.

It’s even odds in my mind.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Exactly, and just as Biden wanted to pressure social media on what was his fake news or dangerous speech, Trump now wants the same.

Fake news about COVID and the vaccine.
That is why the Trump cult loves the heroin addict with a brain worm.

This is why it is so dangerous to let the government into our lives to determine what is real and what is fake. It is wrong, government should not determine our rights, other we have no rights

Yeah, Trump's regime.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Next time Congress goes on break, make Blanche the AG...

Well that would be different.

 

[Papageorgio]

That was the general aim of the Bill of Rights.


As fuzzy an area as it would seem, the job falls to whichever governing authority we elect, with their basing the boundaries of hate speech based on what speech just goes so far over the top as to encroach over onto other people's rights, safety and liberty--- a difficult task. But the alternative is to continue to be blind targets for people who murder just to protect a twisted ideology.


I wouldn't disagree if you can offer a better alternative to doing nothing and being bullied, terrorized and slaughtered. Nothing is unlimited in this world, and that includes even unpopular speech when it extends into trying to get people killed. The government has an obligation to deal with terrorism, and that is what this has now devolved into--- domestic terrorism.

I've heard that on some sites, lefties are already making lists of their next targets.

Who will be the next republican to go out in public, stand before a crowd and stomp for their ideals? Yeah-- I thought so.

Meanwhile, how many democrats do you think will truly feel encumbered from going out campaigning?

The problem with banning so-called “hate speech” is that it doesn’t make it go away—it just drives it underground. The ideas will still exist, but in darker corners where they’re harder to see and harder to counter. That doesn’t solve the problem; it just hides it.

Even more dangerous is the precedent. Once you allow government to decide what counts as “hate speech,” you hand the ruling party a weapon. Today it might be aimed at genuine extremists, but tomorrow it could be turned against mainstream opponents. What if a future administration decided your party’s platform was “hate speech” and blocked it from the airwaves? That may sound extreme, but history shows that restrictions on speech always expand.

That’s why the First Amendment sets a clear boundary: speech is protected unless it is intended to and likely to incite imminent violence (Brandenburg v. Ohio). Incitement and terrorism are already illegal—we don’t need new “hate speech” laws. Enforcing existing laws consistently is the answer.

Free speech has to remain free, even when it’s vile or offensive, because the alternative is government deciding what opinions the people are allowed to hear. And that’s not free speech—it’s controlled speech.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Democrats support prosecuting hate speech, unless they are the ones doing the hatingl

 

[Papageorgio]

Fake news about COVID and the vaccine.
That is why the Trump cult loves the heroin addict with a brain worm.

Yeah, Trump's regime.

Whether it is fake or not is not the point, government has no business deciding what is fake or not, what is hate or not, we have free speech, not controlled speech like parts of Europe.

I object to Bondi even suggesting we control hate speech, I also object to Biden’s want to control information, that is not their right, it is our right to have free speech and government needs to get out of the way. Facism is ugly in any form.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Whether it is fake or not is not the point, government has no business deciding what is fake or not, what is hate or not, we have free speech, not controlled speech like parts of Europe.

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I object to Bondi even suggesting we control hate speech, I also object to Biden’s want to control information, that is not their right, it is our right to have free speech and government needs to get out of the way. Facism is ugly in any form.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Democrats support prosecuting hate speech, unless they are the ones doing the hatingl

INteresting. Can you cite where hate speech was criminally prosecuted by Democrats?

 

[BlindBoo]

She is not qualified for the job the Rubber Stamping Neo-GOP allowed her to have.

 

[toobfreak]

The problem with banning so-called “hate speech” is that it doesn’t make it go away—it just drives it underground. The ideas will still exist, but in darker corners where they’re harder to see and harder to counter. That doesn’t solve the problem; it just hides it.

No. First, no one is banning speech, they are recognizing anarchy. All they are doing is looking at holding people responsible for blatant terroristic intimidation. It will make it go away, first by prosecuting people who take things to an extreme, and by suppressing the behavior by public recognition of how wrong it is. This is the same rationale for punishing any crime--- why don't you go 95 in a 45mph speed zone? Mainly out of fear of incarceration. People who don't respond to public exposure and scorn for how unacceptable such things are won't respond to anything short of arrest for trying to incite murder.

Even more dangerous is the precedent.

The most dangerous precedent is to allow society to devolve where terroristic groups begin affecting the outcomes of our elections through fear, intimidation and murder.

The argument of free speech is moot when we already didn't have free speech! There are limits to all behavior, and it has been many years since the idea of hate crimes and hate speech were indoctrinated into common law, and for much less reason than political assassination.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

INteresting. Can you cite where hate speech was criminally prosecuted by Democrats?

Since I never said demonrats prosecuted anyone you are lying, exaggerating or won't stray from your comfort zone.

To expand, demonrats support killing those they judge as using hate speech. And supporting the murderers of those judged as saying things demonrats don't like isn't hate speech at all.

 

[sealybobo]

Whether it is fake or not is not the point, government has no business deciding what is fake or not, what is hate or not, we have free speech, not controlled speech like parts of Europe.

I object to Bondi even suggesting we control hate speech, I also object to Biden’s want to control information, that is not their right, it is our right to have free speech and government needs to get out of the way. Facism is ugly in any form.

I love how you can't help bring up Biden and that one story you have about facebook. The world could be burning around you because of Trump and you'd say "yea, but remember when Biden asked Facebook to take down fake news?"

Did you hear Trump threaten the Australian reporter?

Don't you dare ask Trump a question that isn't flattering of him.

Trump threatened ABC reporter over “hate speech” questions, saying, “She’d (Pam Bondi) probably go after people like you”.​

Karl asked Trump: “And what do you make Pam Bondi saying she’s going to go after hate speech? A lot of people, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech.”
And, Trump replied: “She’d probably go after people like you! Because you treat me so unfairly! It’s hate! You have a lot of hate in your heart!”

Karl pressed further, asking if it would be appropriate, to which Trump said: “Maybe they’ll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me 16 million dollars recently for a form of hate speech, right? Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech, so maybe they’ll have to go after you.”

He added pointedly: “In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right now, and they want to get along with me. You know your leader is coming over to see me very soon, and I’m going to tell them about you. You set a very bad tone.”

Did Biden threaten Facebook like this? Looks like the 1st amendment is under assault huh? Biden wanted Facebook to delete misinformation and lies. Trump wants to ban even questioning him. If you question him, that's hate speech. And talk about cancel culture.

People who celebrate the killing of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk should be held accountable

"Call them out, and hell, call their employer,"

They would consider what I just wrote celebrating.

A lot of us are just using Charlie's own words against him.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Since I never said demonrats prosecuted anyone you are lying, exaggerating or won't stray from your comfort zone.

To expand, demonrats support killing those they judge as using hate speech. And supporting the murderers of those judged as saying things demonrats don't like isn't hate speech at all.

You literally typed "prosecuting hate speech".

Democrats support prosecuting hate speech, unless they are the ones doing the hatingl

So again, can you cite where Democrats have criminally prosecuted hate speech.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes, it does.

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I have no idea what scammers have to do with free speech.

 

[Papageorgio]

I love how you can't help bring up Biden and that one story you have about facebook. The world could be burning around you because of Trump and you'd say "yea, but remember when Biden asked Facebook to take down fake news?"

Did you hear Trump threaten the Australian reporter?

Don't you dare ask Trump a question that isn't flattering of him.

Trump threatened ABC reporter over “hate speech” questions, saying, “She’d (Pam Bondi) probably go after people like you”.​

Karl asked Trump: “And what do you make Pam Bondi saying she’s going to go after hate speech? A lot of people, a lot of your allies say hate speech is free speech.”
And, Trump replied: “She’d probably go after people like you! Because you treat me so unfairly! It’s hate! You have a lot of hate in your heart!”

Karl pressed further, asking if it would be appropriate, to which Trump said: “Maybe they’ll come after ABC. Well, ABC paid me 16 million dollars recently for a form of hate speech, right? Your company paid me $16 million for a form of hate speech, so maybe they’ll have to go after you.”

He added pointedly: “In my opinion, you are hurting Australia very much right now, and they want to get along with me. You know your leader is coming over to see me very soon, and I’m going to tell them about you. You set a very bad tone.”

Did Biden threaten Facebook like this? Looks like the 1st amendment is under assault huh? Biden wanted Facebook to delete misinformation and lies. Trump wants to ban even questioning him. If you question him, that's hate speech. And talk about cancel culture.

People who celebrate the killing of conservative influencer Charlie Kirk should be held accountable

"Call them out, and hell, call their employer,"

They would consider what I just wrote celebrating.

A lot of us are just using Charlie's own words against him.

I am condemning it all and you won’t. You want one sided free speech and that isn’t really free speech.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I have no idea what scammers have to do with free speech.

WTF?

Another idiot who thinks.............

"Whether it is fake or not is not the point, government has no business deciding what is fake or not'

 

[Papageorgio]

WTF?

Another idiot who thinks.............

"Whether it is fake or not is not the point, government has no business deciding what is fake or not'

That is my take, government has no business deciding what free speech is or is not. BTW, the name calling is childish and shows a great lack of communication and respect for one’s self.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

You literally typed "prosecuting hate speech".


So again, can you cite where Democrats have criminally prosecuted hate speech.

Another democrat that can't read.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

That is my take, government has no business deciding what free speech is or is not. BTW, the name calling is childish and shows a great lack of communication and respect for one’s self.

That's your dear leader.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Another democrat that can't read.

YOU evidently don't know what "prosecution" means even though you used. I note you still have not provided reasonable examples.