Transcript: Biden Asked Afghan President To Lie For Him In Return For Support

[struth]

When he sighed the Doha accords we had over 13,000 troops in Afghanistan. Other than withdrawing over 10,000 troops, how else did we draw down to a mere 2,500 by the time Trumybear left office? Benedict Donald withdrew all of our leverage to enforce the so called conditions of the conditional withdrawal.

so again, we had 2500 troop and our military base, gotcha....2500...which happened to be the same number the military advised Xiden to make sure he keep there before Xiden did a back door deal with the Afghan President and then surrendered to the Taliban...gotcha

 

[BlindBoo]

No stupid, we still had Bagram AFB to kill the Taliban at will. And it was working until Tater stepped in with his plan and fucked it all up.

Sec. Lloyd Austin: (23:40)
So let me take each in turn. Retaining Bagram would’ve required putting as many as 5,000 US troops in harms way just to operate and defend it. And it would’ve contributed little to the mission that we’ve been assigned and that was to protect and defend the embassy, which was some 30 miles away. That distance from Kabul also rendered Bagram of little value in the evacuation. Staying at Bagram even for counter-terrorism purposes meant staying at war in Afghanistan, something that the president made clear that he would not do.

Trump didn’t withdraw

Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January. When president Biden was inaugurated, there were approximately 3,500 US troops, 5,400 NATO troops and 6,300 contractors in Afghanistan with a specified task of train, advise and assist along with a small contingent of counter terrorism forces.

 

[BlindBoo]

I'm not sure you are really getting it here. Biden was president when we got out of Afghanistan and he did it very badly.

We had been withdrawing troops out of Afghanistan since March of 2020. By the time Biden took office, all the goodies in the candy store were gone. Why did Trump remove so many troops without ensuring the Taliban was meeting the conditions of the conditional withdrawal?

 

[Independent thinker]

We had been withdrawing troops out of Afghanistan since March of 2020. By the time Biden took office, all the goodies in the candy store were gone. Why did Trump remove so many troops without ensuring the Taliban was meeting the conditions of the conditional withdrawal?

Biden was president when we got out of Afghanistan and he did it very badly, which also gave Russia the green light to invade Ukraine.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

... and, all of which was set up by Trump for all of that to happen.

 

[Nostra]

Sec. Lloyd Austin: (23:40)
So let me take each in turn. Retaining Bagram would’ve required putting as many as 5,000 US troops in harms way just to operate and defend it. And it would’ve contributed little to the mission that we’ve been assigned and that was to protect and defend the embassy, which was some 30 miles away. That distance from Kabul also rendered Bagram of little value in the evacuation. Staying at Bagram even for counter-terrorism purposes meant staying at war in Afghanistan, something that the president made clear that he would not do.


Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received an order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January. When president Biden was inaugurated, there were approximately 3,500 US troops, 5,400 NATO troops and 6,300 contractors in Afghanistan with a specified task of train, advise and assist along with a small contingent of counter terrorism forces.

Fuck Austin and Milley’s bullshit spin.

 

[struth]

Sec. Lloyd Austin: (23:40)
So let me take each in turn. Retaining Bagram would’ve required putting as many as 5,000 US troops in harms way just to operate and defend it. And it would’ve contributed little to the mission that we’ve been assigned and that was to protect and defend the embassy, which was some 30 miles away. That distance from Kabul also rendered Bagram of little value in the evacuation. Staying at Bagram even for counter-terrorism purposes meant staying at war in Afghanistan, something that the president made clear that he would not do.


Under the Doha agreement, the US would begin to withdraw its forces contingent upon Taliban meeting certain conditions, which would lead to a political agreement between the Taliban and the government of Afghanistan. There were seven conditions applicable to the Taliban and eight conditions applicable to the United States. While the Taliban did not attack US forces, which was one of the conditions, it failed to fully honor, any, any other condition under the Doha agreement.

Gen. Milley: (32:48)
After further discussions regarding the risks associated with such a withdrawal, the order was rescinded. On 17 November we received a order, to reduce levels to 2,500 plus enabling forces no later than 15 January. When president Biden was inaugurated, there were approximately 3,500 US troops, 5,400 NATO troops and 6,300 contractors in Afghanistan with a specified task of train, advise and assist along with a small contingent of counter terrorism forces.

Hey, again, we are well aware of the facts....you lied....there were troops there when Xiden took office....Xiden was the one that ignored the military advisors, ignored the agreement, and surrendered after making a backdoor deal with the Afghan President.....it should also be noted that the Afghan President had family working on the Xiden campaign...corrupt...geez

 

[struth]

Fuck Austin and Milley’s bullshit spin.

well...they did expose Xiden's lies on the issue:

Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan​

Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

Top generals contradict Biden, say they urged him not to withdraw from Afghanistan

Gen. Frank McKenzie said that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

www.politico.com

Top generals told lawmakers under oath on Tuesday that they advised President Joe Biden early this year to keep several thousand troops in Afghanistan — directly contradicting the president’s comments in August that no one warned him not to withdraw troops from the country.

The remarkable testimony pits top military brass against the commander-in-chief as the Biden administration continues to face tough questions about what critics are calling a botched withdrawal that directly led to the deaths of 13 American service members, scenes of chaos at the Kabul airport, and the abandonment of American citizens and at-risk Afghans in the war-torn country.

Gen. Kenneth “Frank” McKenzie, the commander of U.S. Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services in a hearing Tuesday that he recommended maintaining a small force of 2,500 troops in Afghanistan earlier this year.

Xiden lied, people died.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

struth won't tell you the truth that Trump set up Biden in Afghanistan so Putin could invade Ukraine

 

[struth]

struth won't tell you the truth that Trump set up Biden in Afghanistan so Putin could invade Ukraine

wow, trump is pretty smart if he was able to do that....and Xiden pretty stupid for falling for it

 

[BlindBoo]

Hey, again, we are well aware of the facts....you lied....there were troops there when Xiden took office....Xiden was the one that ignored the military advisors, ignored the agreement, and surrendered after making a backdoor deal with the Afghan President.....it should also be noted that the Afghan President had family working on the Xiden campaign...corrupt...geez

It was advice initially given to Trumpybear in the summer of 2020 after the first set of withdrawals of troops down to the 8,600 level as called for in the Doha accords, but before he continued the nearly unconditional withdrawal of more troops to the 2,500 minimum force he left Biden with.

 

[struth]

It was advice initially given to Trumpybear in the summer of 2020 after the first set of withdrawals of troops down to the 8,600 level as called for in the Doha accords, but before he continued the nearly unconditional withdrawal of more troops to the 2,500 minimum force he left Biden with.

yep, and that's why Trump didn't pull all the troops out like Xiden did

 

[BlindBoo]

yep, and that's why Trump didn't pull all the troops out like Xiden did

Hahahaha, you mean the Generals read him the riot act when, soon after his defeat to Biden was announced, he ordered the complete withdrawal from Afghanistan by Jan 15 2021. I'd bet they all threatened to publicly resign if he didn't change that. Of course the military wanted their forever war and hoped that Biden would reverse course and re-deploy tens of thousands of fresh bodies........

 

[struth]

Hahahaha, you mean the Generals read him the riot act when, soon after his defeat to Biden was announced, he ordered the complete withdrawal from Afghanistan by Jan 15 2021. I'd bet they all threatened to publicly resign if he didn't change that. Of course the military wanted their forever war and hoped that Biden would reverse course and re-deploy tens of thousands of fresh bodies........

there were 3500 troops in Affghan when Trump left office. Try again

 

[BlindBoo]

there were 3500 troops in Affghan when Trump left office. Try again

Not to mention Nato troops as well as non military support personal. Trumpyones order was that number be reduced to 2,500 troops by Jan 15, 2021. Not surprising that Benedict Donnie Dumbshits orders were routinely ignored and/or scoffed at.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

wow, trump is pretty smart if he was able to do that....and Xiden pretty stupid for falling for it

Trump stuck Biden with an agreement Biden could not break. So Biden kicked Trump's ass in the election and owns Trump and all of MAGA. He owns them.

 

[struth]

Not to mention Nato troops as well as non military support personal. Trumpyones order was that number be reduced to 2,500 troops by Jan 15, 2021. Not surprising that Benedict Donnie Dumbshits orders were routinely ignored and/or scoffed at.

So, once again, we are left with the fact you lied....Trump did not withdraw, we had troops there, a base, equipment, our allies etc.

It was your dear leader xiden that ignored the military advisors, ignored the agreement that was in place, and worked a quid pro with the Afghan President, then betrayed our allies, the people of Afghan, and withdrew, leaving dead Americans and our people behind,

Thanks for playing, once again....

 

[struth]

Trump stuck Biden with an agreement Biden could not break. So Biden kicked Trump's ass in the election and owns Trump and all of MAGA. He owns them.

Xiden didn't have to break it.....he simply just didn't have to ignore it.

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump’s Taliban deal in Doha?​

Was Biden handcuffed by Trump's Taliban deal in Doha?

President Joe Biden and his national security team say the Trump administration tied their hands when it came to the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

apnews.com

Eighteen months later, President Joe Biden is pointing to the agreement signed in Doha, Qatar, as he tries to deflect blame for the Taliban overrunning Afghanistan in a blitz. He says it bound him to withdraw U.S. troops, setting the stage for the chaos engulfing the country.

But Biden can go only so far in claiming the agreement boxed him in. It had an escape clause: The U.S. could have withdrawn from the accord if Afghan peace talks failed. They did, but Biden chose to stay in it, although he delayed the complete pullout from May to September.

 

[BlindBoo]

So, once again, we are left with the fact you lied....Trump did not withdraw, we had troops there, a base, equipment, our allies etc.

It was your dear leader xiden that ignored the military advisors, ignored the agreement that was in place, and worked a quid pro with the Afghan President, then betrayed our allies, the people of Afghan, and withdrew, leaving dead Americans and our people behind,

Thanks for playing, once again....

You continue with the false narrative that Benedict Donald didn't withdraw any troops (much less 80% of them) or ignore most all of the conditions on the Taliban in Doha Accords that he negotiated. He did it all to put the US behind the 8 ball....and even bragged about betraying us all.

"I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process.

Benedict Donald: (22:53)
21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame. "

 

[struth]

You continue with the false narrative that Benedict Donald didn't withdraw any troops (much less 80% of them) or ignore most all of the conditions on the Taliban in Doha Accords that he negotiated. He did it all to put the US behind the 8 ball....and even bragged about betraying us all.

"I started the process. All the troops are coming back home. They couldn’t stop the process.

Benedict Donald: (22:53)
21 years is enough. Don’t we think? 21 years. They couldn’t stop the process. They wanted to, but it was very tough to stop the process when other things…yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It’s a shame. "

When did I ever claim he didn't withdraw ANY troops? Why do you lie so much?